djb Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 @@georgehifi was wondering which billy goat gruff would call the trolls bluff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundscape Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 My hard rubbish pickup, Teac TX-500. Not bad at all. It'll do me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 Ok I will change the as yet unanswered question Well no I won't i will just turn it on its head and litter it with personal examples. I once had a tuner addiction I've whittled it down to about 5 all am fm Accuphase !7 Amber 7 Sansui 417 Hitachi 5500 mark11 Kenwood 30 xxx! Am I going to get any substantially improved SQ by moving to 1 of the 3 FM only tuners in the classifieds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I see one good tuner there, the 417...bin the rest. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted to music Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 It's a long time since I've compared tuners. I remember going in Soundcraftsman in Caulfield many many years ago with the plan of buying a $200 Yamaha tuner. It sounded terrible so I started moving up the range. I was about to buy the top of the Yamaha range until I heard the Tandberg. I can't remember what Yamaha model it was though. It's my longest lasting component, everything else in my system has been replaced at least once, it holds its own against the rest of my sources. Other tuners could be better, I don't mind or care really. Tandberg has a tuning knob but it hasn't moved in over 20 years, Its set to 3RRR. I bought my Yammie T2 from Soundcraftsman. Its also where I compared the Tandberg. Spent 3 years wages there on the upgrade journey. I still have the LP12/ittok combo that I purchased brand new. Greame the owner gave some great trade in prices thats why I kept going back. Then I discovered DIY and I a kid was in the oven, the rest is history. BTW: Both you guys (georgehifi and pchan) should listen to a Denon TU1500 or TU1510 sometime. Cheap, cheerful and blows away most vintage tuners (including the Yammy T2 - and I own a T2 and a T7). Best of all, the Denons have a tuning knob. Gotta love that. Ive given up listening to Tuners, all the FM listening I do these days is in the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted to music Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 The better 1/2 has a 10yr old Camry, it has a Fujitsu Stereo in it, its possibly the best sounding FM sound you will ever come across for a stock standard car stereo, its nothing fancy and the CD is amazing. Way ahead of any Falcon/Holden or my current Ford Mondeo with Bluetooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davm Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I've accumulated a few decent tuners: Audiolab 8000T Meridian 504 Kenwood KT-5020 Accuphase T-101 I tend to cycle through them. I'm using the Kenwood KT-5020 at the moment. Little shy in the bass, but incredibly quiet with a good signal and great mid range and treble. Voices on ABC Classic FM sound just right. Dedicated external FM antenna makes a huge difference as well. Regards, David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 @@Pops110 kenwood looks to be one of those minimalist less is best type designs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Hall Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 It's a long time since I've compared tuners. I remember going in Soundcraftsman in Caulfield many many years ago with the plan of buying a $200 Yamaha tuner. It sounded terrible so I started moving up the range. I was about to buy the top of the Yamaha range until I heard the Tandberg. I can't remember what Yamaha model it was though. It's my longest lasting component, everything else in my system has been replaced at least once, it holds its own against the rest of my sources. Other tuners could be better, I don't mind or care really. Tandberg has a tuning knob but it hasn't moved in over 20 years, Its set to 3RRR. What will you tune it too when you move up to Upper Kumbuckta West? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 Don't see many kenwood tuners in OZ My kenwood has similar 4 digit # but it's with family a fine tuner in stock form The Hitachi is my best But Sansui probably most used this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proftournesol Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 What will you tune it too when you move up to Upper Kumbuckta West? Yes, it's a real problem, I think that I'll leave it in my Melbourne apartment as I'll have to stream RRR through the Mac mini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fez Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/topic/30419-vintage-hifi/page-58 Check out Warren M's post in Vintage HiFi...You know you are into tuners big time, when your spend $1100, on one mod to a TU-X1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 @@The Fez now that is a serious hi end addiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 @@Luc assuming u have reception you need to upgrade If it must be Sansui something in the TU *17 series are affordable 217>717 Is/was. tu217 On ebay for about $125 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) @ quieter now Cyclical maintenance of Ageing machinery had a small operation yesterday arvo and was still high on anesthetic Yes I went home on the train Have I offended anyone other than you? Edited August 7, 2014 by djb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgehifi Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) I also have a from what I gather a fairly rare again FM only Kenwood KT-3300D, it has A & B arial inputs also. said the be the best sounding PPL tuner Kenwood has made, it sounds a bit like the Yamaha T2. It gives the Tandberg 3001 a good run, but with the tweaks I've done to the Tandberg, better coupling caps and better output opamp it's so much richer and full bodied sounding. But I must say as good as they are I hardly listen to these tuners anymore they sit around collecting dust, one day I'll get around to selling them and many other things I've collected like the Magnat plasma tweeters and make some room in my listening room. Cheers George Edited August 7, 2014 by georgehifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil c Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 @ quieter now Cyclical maintenance of Ageing machinery had a small operation yesterday arvo and was still high on anesthetic Yes I went home on the train Have I offended anyone other than you? Trolls have to work occasionally @@djb - you really are the supreme "master baiter"! Thought you seemed even more (if that's possible) cantankerous - all is forgiven, drugs and alcohol together are a bad mixture for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 Medications and alcohol are never mixed by me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil c Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Never?? - you haven't lived! Back on topic - I had a Yamaha tuner I bought new in 1980, manual tuning but can't remember the model but I ended up selling to a friend and regretted it when I went over and listened to it again! It just sounded so right, smooth detailed and dynamic from memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddisgeek Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Medications and alcohol are never mixed by me! No, all bartending duties undertaken by the saint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 Geek makes a strong duty free G&T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb Posted August 9, 2014 Author Share Posted August 9, 2014 (edited) @@Warren M warren no one has ventured an answer to my questions re FM ONLY tuners being (possibly) superiority to dual AM/FM tuners. I have 5 good am/fm tuners 2 that rate quite high in perhaps the second rank of 80s tuners Hitachi 5500 mark 11 Amber model 7 Are there FM only tuners that equal or out class these or similar? If so do they better them BECAUSE they are without the AM tuner? Feel free to vary the question Ie @djb buy this FM tuner it will knock socks off what you have for only$ 101 Better PM that last bit @pPhan @ @Third Drawer Down @et al Can not be trusted Edited August 9, 2014 by djb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyr Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 @@Warren M warren no one has ventured an answer to my questions re FM ONLY tuners being (possibly) superiority to dual AM/FM tuners. Are there FM only tuners that equal or out class these or similar? If so do they better them BECAUSE they are without the AM tuner? Well, David, I think I can answer that one! I bought a Yamaha T-1 from "The Soundcraftsman" around 1980. This was AM/FM. Graeme Rodwell said the Yam T-2 sounded better ... but this was FM only and, at that stage, I wanted to experience the full richness of the tuner experience - ie. AM as well as FM. About 10 years ago (long after I had stopped listening to AM), I found a second-hand T-2 so traded in my T-1 for it ... and, yes the T-2 was better. The case was the same size and the two looked very similar ... so I must assume that it was the 'missing' AM section that made it sound better. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kensell21 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Just discovered this thread and I'm still not recovered from moving on my heavily modded Troughline. Ended up buying a Sansui T80 which is OK but I do lust after a higher end Sansui. Also have a Nakamichi 430 in a vintage system which plays background music from abc classic FM Oh the NAK is FM only and gets a acceptable reviews online. Still, would like to invest in a nicer unit, not sure what........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb Posted August 9, 2014 Author Share Posted August 9, 2014 (edited) @@Kensell21 There are 3 FM only on sna classifieds page 1-see OP Troughline was so early it required considerable upgrades to meet the standard required I suspect the non sale of these 3 indicates lack of interest in FM in preference to ease of DAB/Spotify over the SQ of FM. And as a consequence the prices being asked are too high For am/fm Sansui TU *17 217-717 would be a good place to go Been some 217s go for $125 ish. I'd begin by moving the FM Nag to the main system Edited August 9, 2014 by djb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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