On 18/01/2025 at 2:13 PM, Kaynin said:

Hard wired cameras don’t need 240v, they are powered from your ethernet cable.  It’s great, no need for a sparky at all.

Im pretty sure you do technically need a sparky even for Ethernet wiring through the house.   

 

edit:  apparently  you need a licensed cable installer that can do security, data etc.    Doesn't necessarily need to be a full blown electrician.     Can't legally DIY unless your cables aren't running through walls etc.  

Edited January 21, 20251 yr by manchu

1 hour ago, manchu said:

Im pretty sure you do technically need a sparky even for Ethernet wiring through the house.   

 

edit:  apparently  you need a licensed cable installer that can do security, data etc.    Doesn't necessarily need to be a full blown electrician.     Can't legally DIY unless your cables aren't running through walls etc.  

 

 

Great, so we agree no need for a sparky at all.

If you don’t know what you’re doing it is recommended you get someone professionally to install Ethernet.   A license qualified electrician can do it safely so it’s away at least 10cm 100mm not running parallel to any electrical mains.  And you’re not drilling into walls where there is 230VAC or plumping!  Nearly all CCTV installers will be able to do this too.  Just remember POE has a set of wires that has power (not mains power) so it can power up the camera you’re running.   Ethernet is duplex, but with CCTV it’s simplex hence they allocated a pair for power 

Edited January 21, 20251 yr by Addicted to music

6 hours ago, Kaynin said:

Great, so we agree no need for a sparky at all.

sure.  
 

Point is though that you can’t DIY.   Your statement can be interpreted otherwise 

12 minutes ago, manchu said:

sure.  
 

Point is though that you can’t DIY.   Your statement can be interpreted otherwise 

A poster said 240v and I said they’re powered over ethernet, no need for a sparky.  That speaks for itself, precise and succinct.  
 

You want to elaborate on DIY and add anything else outside of my comment then knock yourself out, but don’t try and twist my statement on an account of your lack of knowledge.

 

 

38 minutes ago, manchu said:

sure.  
 

Point is though that you can’t DIY.   Your statement can be interpreted otherwise 

 

 Please provide link to  the electrical codes that saids a license electrician has to lay Ethernet cable.  

10 minutes ago, Addicted to music said:

 

 Please provide link to  the electrical codes that saids a license electrician has to lay Ethernet cable.  

Needs to be a ‘registered cabling provider’,  
 

Not necessarily an electrician but that’s probably who I‘d use because that’s who I know and they could  do some other stuff at the same time.     

https://www.commsalliance.com.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/71488/S009_2020.pdf

7 hours ago, manchu said:

Needs to be a ‘registered cabling provider’,  
 

Not necessarily an electrician but that’s probably who I‘d use because that’s who I know and they could  do some other stuff at the same time.     

https://www.commsalliance.com.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/71488/S009_2020.pdf

Only  if the equipment is connected to the telecommunications infrastructure requires minimal standards,    Page 5 of your.  link stipulates this.  I have defined minimum standards in a previous post,  and if you are unsure use an electrician or like you said a “cabler installer”. Which most are who installed POE CCTV.  The minimum standards is that you don’t damage telecommunication infrastructure or injure of kill someone on the side of the line.
 

POE CCTV connects back to a base not  to the telecommunications infrastructure, the accredit approved base can then be connected to a standard modem that’s to your internet, so if you are doing DIY you need to be careful that you don’t run it parallel to mains wire at a distance of 100mm.   As pointed out there are 3 standards of POE for CCTV and they are not Ethernet protocol as they are providing power and you don’t connect this side to any thing that connected to the internet.  The rules are also there so you can identify what’s POE CCTV and Ethernet.   For the base to connected to internet the equipment needs to have a communication tick and must be approved to connect to the telecommunication infrastructure.    Now if you have FTTH (Optic Fibre),  you still need to observe these minimum requirement even though there are zero chance of you damaging telecommunication infrastructure or injuring someone. 

10 hours ago, manchu said:

Needs to be a ‘registered cabling provider’,  
 

Not necessarily an electrician but that’s probably who I‘d use because that’s who I know and they could  do some other stuff at the same time.     

https://www.commsalliance.com.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/71488/S009_2020.pdf

Correct in that the cable needs to be installed by a licensed installer. But from  what I've seen from some electricians, I'd be doing a very thorough inspection of the installation myself (in reality I'd do it myself, but that's just me).

 

My comment in reference to some electricians is from experience working with them in an industrial situation, and also from when I used to do TV antenna installs, and having to completely rewire some jobs.

There are many reasons why this type of industry (electrics and trades in general etc) is heavily regulated in Australia, and mostly it is because there are a lot of stupid people out there who are ready to take risks without any knowledge and accidents or death will happen. I can understand that.

 

However, in other countries there is limited room to allow non-electricians to do basics and allow people to think for themselves.

This shows that even the most basic of tasks are prohibited to be performed here unless it is done by full blown electricians and that may be too much?

 

An example is the UK:

"Can I do my own electrical work?:

You can do your own electrical work if you are competent to do so. Simple tasks such as wiring a plug are within the grasp of many people but more complex tasks, such as modifying an electrical installation, may not be.

It is particularly important that anyone who undertakes electrical work is able to satisfy the requirements of the Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974 and the Electricity at Work Regulations 1989."

https://www.hse.gov.uk/electricity/faq.htm

 

I guess in Australia we have gone the full fear scare mongering narrative to keep everyone else, who is not a fully accredited electrician, away from anything electric. Even an Ethernet cable.

A bit extreme I guess. But then again I am not sure that many people out there would even take basic precautions as Addicted to Music pointed out, to not drill through a wall and a plumbing connection (insulation batts 2009 anyone?).

 

Thank you to Addicted to Music and Kaynin for pointing out some basics so that the whole electricity subject is not enshrined in secrecy and fear and instead we can all learn a bit more about what is possible and what is not.

What we could be doing and what we shouldn't be doing too.

On 22/01/2025 at 9:03 AM, bob_m_54 said:

Correct in that the cable needs to be installed by a licensed installer. But from  what I've seen from some electricians, I'd be doing a very thorough inspection of the installation myself (in reality I'd do it myself, but that's just me).

 

My comment in reference to some electricians is from experience working with them in an industrial situation, and also from when I used to do TV antenna installs, and having to completely rewire some jobs.

 

 

Yes,  some are actually cowboys and give the industry a bad name,  i never trust any tradies, especially electricians, cable installers or power cord certifiers......

 

 

And looking at my post quoted above, I see that I made a typo and the title should have been "Check the tradies' work".  To make sure that their work works, if you follow me.

Did anyone have connection issues after the latest eufy updates on the 24th?

 

I had to reboot the router and the home base to get it all working properly.   Before that it was huffing and puffing, taking forever to load, often failing.

 

After my resets, it all seems to be working fine.

 

Was it just my set-up?   I have 5 x EufyCam 2's  running wireless and internal battery running only.   

 

Regards Cazzesman

On 28/2/2025 at 12:44 PM, cazzesman said:

Did anyone have connection issues after the latest eufy updates on the 24th?

 

I had to reboot the router and the home base to get it all working properly.   Before that it was huffing and puffing, taking forever to load, often failing.

 

After my resets, it all seems to be working fine.

 

Was it just my set-up?   I have 5 x EufyCam 2's  running wireless and internal battery running only.   

 

Regards Cazzesman

I’m  running the latest FW,  but I’m using totally different hardware compared to you and don’t have an issue 

Edited March 2, 20251 yr by Addicted to music

bought the s3 pro 2 pack and home base 3 jb hifi have on special $200 off ... also grabbed the e340 dual camera door bell. 

 

got the door bell mounted and home base 3 🙂 and app all works well together so far. the home base 3 has a 1TB hard drive comes with.

 

the door bell used a 140x40x40x2mm angle from bunnings to mount on side of the door jamb ...

 

 https://www.bunnings.com.au/carinya-140-x-40-x-40-x-2mm-hot-dipped-galvanised-reinforcing-angle-bracket_p0046918

 

which worked out very neat 🙂 like way looks like its floating there  

 

 

 

 

all up and going soon. have to get the s3 home base going first on wired lan and then can swap to wifi ... not needing the physical lan connection... 

 

charging up the s3pro cameras... will get those mounted up in coming weeks ... weather and time permitting, very time poor so will grab opportunity to do it when comes ...

On 24/05/2025 at 7:11 PM, betty boop said:

bought the s3 pro 2 pack and home base 3 jb hifi have on special $200 off ... also grabbed the e340 dual camera door bell. 

 

got the door bell mounted and home base 3 🙂 and app all works well together so far. the home base 3 has a 1TB hard drive comes with.

 

the door bell used a 140x40x40x2mm angle from bunnings to mount on side of the door jamb ...

 

 https://www.bunnings.com.au/carinya-140-x-40-x-40-x-2mm-hot-dipped-galvanised-reinforcing-angle-bracket_p0046918

 

which worked out very neat 🙂 like way looks like its floating there  

 

 

 

 

all up and going soon. have to get the s3 home base going first on wired lan and then can swap to wifi ... not needing the physical lan connection... 

 

charging up the s3pro cameras... will get those mounted up in coming weeks ... weather and time permitting, very time poor so will grab opportunity to do it when comes ...

 

Hi Al, @betty boop

How is your Eufy Homebase system going?

Just wondering. Does this system with home base relies on a permanent Wi-Fi connection? Or do the cameras talk and save to the homebase even if there is no internet/Wi-Fi available?

 

I ask because I do like the idea of the cameras being easily connected wirelessly to the home base to record etc, but at night we turn off the Wi-Fi/Internet modem just to avoid beaming through the night over our heads. But the Wi-Fi comes back on early in the morning the next day.

 

Originally I was thinking to get a wired system to a local Drive to record, but this Homebase Eufy system seems to be much simpler. Thanks.

Edited June 3, 2025Jun 3 by RCADees

On 4/6/2025 at 8:12 AM, RCADees said:

How is your Eufy Homebase system going?

Just wondering. Does this system with home base relies on a permanent Wi-Fi connection? Or do the cameras talk and save to the homebase even if there is no internet/Wi-Fi available?

Going really well so far ! 
 

system as off last week is now front/garage s3pro camera, back yard s3pro camera and e340 front door/bell …plus the home base 3

 

really impressed. The two solar s3pro for front back are holding charge with what winter sun picking up… very impressed as not running off mains.  
 

the home base does rely on WiFi and cameras do to synch with home base.

 

however yes the system can run without WiFi and internet as the cameras all have local storage … it will increase power use. And won’t be able to access via ap without WiFi. However will keep working in background. And once switch WiFi on again they will all synch back to the home base …and can check all via app and via home base …

 

eufy have an article talking through and confirming. 

 

https://www.eufy.com/blogs/security-camera/can-wireless-cameras-work-without-internet

 

reason I believe is so the system can’t be shut down by cutting power or jamming the WiFi …