Silver Audiophile Posted March 22, 2023 Posted March 22, 2023 2 hours ago, zydeco said: Are any of the various offering better when it comes to data privacy and protection? Most offer cloud storage at free or small monthly fees. I'm on the $80/yr cloud storage plan with Google. Not a bad deal, considering the replacement cost today of my 20 year old home is about $1.8mil to build, plus cost for my home contents. Back to base monitoring is $400 a year.
Rrobot Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 I think when I made the home monitoring assessment a few years ago, I reached the view that most camera providers are pushing us towards a subscription based model, especially those deploying AI to analyse the images and determine what's really an intruder. Given the number of online services who have hooks into me these days with subs for music and video and storage and everything else I really just didn't want another. So while the outlay was more expensive up front, the DVR and PoE cams in the end was what I went for even though I realise this isn't a very modern way to look at things.
Silver Audiophile Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 46 minutes ago, Rrobot said: I think when I made the home monitoring assessment a few years ago, I reached the view that most camera providers are pushing us towards a subscription based model, especially those deploying AI to analyse the images and determine what's really an intruder. Given the number of online services who have hooks into me these days with subs for music and video and storage and everything else I really just didn't want another. So while the outlay was more expensive up front, the DVR and PoE cams in the end was what I went for even though I realise this isn't a very modern way to look at things. I started that way (DVR and local storage). Such a pain to use, I gave up very quickly. A total waste of $1000. This time around, with Cloud storage, all Google cameras and Google yearly fee of $90 (unlimited numbers of cameras), it's a dream match in heaven! Such ease of use and the mobile app is a breeze to use too. 1
Rrobot Posted March 29, 2023 Posted March 29, 2023 36 minutes ago, Silver Audiophile said: This time around, with Cloud storage, all Google cameras and Google yearly fee of $90 (unlimited numbers of cameras), it's a dream match in heaven! Such ease of use and the mobile app is a breeze to use too. The appeal is strong certainly. Is that with nest aware? I'm still holding the illusion that I can be not owned by big tech. I still roll my own home assistant, have a nas etc. I think I ought to just give in! 1
qlder75 Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 Plus one to google nest or ring for simplicity here (outside). Not sure I would install inside though - reports (online) of people hijacking the footgae/stream and passive recording of conversations?
Silver Audiophile Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 4 hours ago, qlder75 said: Plus one to google nest or ring for simplicity here (outside). Not sure I would install inside though - reports (online) of people hijacking the footgae/stream and passive recording of conversations? When at home, I switch off the Google cameras inside the house (leaving the cameras outside permanently on). 1
BugPowderDust Posted June 28, 2023 Posted June 28, 2023 If you have Hikvision or Dahua stuff in your home network, it should be isolated to its own VLAN, given access only to the internet and not able to speak to anything else on your home network: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-65975446 2
thebox_4k Posted March 13, 2024 Posted March 13, 2024 The affordable Eufy solution has been meeting my needs quite well. 1 1
Addicted to music Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Eufy s3 Pro. 4K wireless to Home Base3 (HB3). Integrated Solar Panels. These have advanced Wifi bridging Technologies that I find super intriguing. They are non subscription based, and the HB3 supports up to 16TB HDD with an additional USB3 for archiving with additional storage bank. Image quality in total darkness is like daylight with color under normal quality setting that’s superb compared to cheap wired CCtV where you can’t even make out the make of vehicle. You can set up 2 trigger area and the AI feature can identify faces with an option to label so it knows who is who, you can set it up so these identified faces can trigger/ not trigger. The cameras come with spotlight so when the inferred is triggered the spot light will automatically turn on. Now since it’s a battery powered wireless camera, all are triggered based recording however, with new firmware, these can also be mains powered 24/7 and that gives you around the clock recording in snapshot increments so you won’t miss any events. The reason I got these is that my vehicle got broken into and the tools were taken. As every neighbour has CCTV, I was the only one without hence easy target. As they don’t require a power source to operate due to its integrated solar panel, I found that it requires an additional supplied panel out of the box to keep it constantly topped up at 100%. I’ve had these for over a month, there is not much that doesn’t get detected, especially vehicles going down the street very slowly that raises suspicion of scouting out to seek out opportunities for theft. Caught one guy going down numerous times that I though was a uber delivery but when approached came up with some lame excuse of flyer research….yeah right! Got a rego and called 000. 2
Jakeyb77_Redux Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I’ve got a hard drive based camera system and a Ring cloud based system. The Ring system is awesome. It has motion activated lights. I can hit a siren and also speak through them. Its got a fully customisable detection area and can discern people from other movements. Instant notifications on my phone and also chime alerts inside the house. No one can get near my house without me knowing about it. Only time it’s been triggered at night was when the Mrs’ Temu delivery came at 1am and the system went off. Then the dog went off. And then I was at the door confronting a 5 foot petite Asian lady. 1
Kaynin Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 12 hours ago, Addicted to music said: As every neighbour has CCTV, I was the only one without hence easy target. This is so true. Even dummy systems are effective on this front, but obviously useless when an event actually happens - but more effective than nothing at all! I have a hardwired Dahua system, records 24/7 to a hard-drive and also marks in the GUI when movement occurs. I get 3 weeks of video, plenty of time to isolate footage should I need to. Interestingly I'm often accessing footage. It's not always criminal offences I'm looking at. I had a pot plant at my front door that fell over and smashed. At about $200 I wasn't happy, and thought because it was so heavy it had to be someone, likely a neighbour. I checked the footage and it was, in fact, the wind - only possible because the pot plant was top heavy. Neighbourhood crisis averted. I went this route because the systems that only record when they detect movement are reliant on actually detecting something. They don't always do that. Having a system that is recording 24/7 ensures you capture everything and to that end, for me, is the whole point of my system. Edited January 6 by Kaynin 4
Addicted to music Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Just to show what’s available in the phone app with the Eufy s3pro cameras. And what PQ is like in the dark at 10:00pm and during the day. 1
Addicted to music Posted January 6 Posted January 6 7 hours ago, Kaynin said: This is so true. Even dummy systems are effective on this front, but obviously useless when an event actually happens - but more effective than nothing at all! I have a hardwired Dahua system, records 24/7 to a hard-drive and also marks in the GUI when movement occurs. I get 3 weeks of video, plenty of time to isolate footage should I need to. Interestingly I'm often accessing footage. It's not always criminal offences I'm looking at. I had a pot plant at my front door that fell over and smashed. At about $200 I wasn't happy, and thought because it was so heavy it had to be someone, likely a neighbour. I checked the footage and it was, in fact, the wind - only possible because the pot plant was top heavy. Neighbourhood crisis averted. I went this route because the systems that only record when they detect movement are reliant on actually detecting something. They don't always do that. Having a system that is recording 24/7 ensures you capture everything and to that end, for me, is the whole point of my system. Yeah, eventually I’m going to have to go POE CCTV. I have similar experiences what you have, I find that the detected events not reliable, fancy driving a vehicle out of the garage and it’s not being captured only to find the other camera on the other side captured the event! Not sure what happens here, whether it’s decided in the AI Home Base a single detection is enough! But this was to cover during the Xmas as the Ute was targeted and tools stolen at 3:30am in the morning, reported to 000 as soon as it happened, the cops did t show up till 10:00am in the morning. The inconvenience was waiting 2wks for that back glass panel to arrive, so you have a non operational company vehicle, this is why I went this route. 1
RCADees Posted January 13 Posted January 13 HI, just wondering if we should be concerned about this or not? 1
rocky500 Posted January 14 Posted January 14 2 hours ago, RCADees said: HI, just wondering if we should be concerned about this or not? My Router has the WPA3 setting, so just changed it. Thanks. I only have 1 or 2 wifi cameras connected all the rest are cat5 cables. My router was supplied from my internet provider and there never seems to be any firmware updates (thanks TPG) but at least it had it already.
Addicted to music Posted January 14 Posted January 14 (edited) 8 hours ago, RCADees said: HI, just wondering if we should be concerned about this or not? most are fast opportunists, simply break and grab. Usually teenagers between 11-25yr of age, in my area usually on one ethnic origin that's making the community targeting them. They are now entering the property via the backyard and searching for car keys or as you see in my post just break the glass and grab and go! They are not intelligent enough to buy a WIFI jammer! Now thats what you call organised! You see plenty of footage that the community puts up on FB. tonnes of images where they ALL wear hoodies and masks even on a 30-40C day that literally attracts attention. So identify them on Hires CCTV footage is useless to the police but puts a time stamp on the event for insurance purposes. Now lets toy with the senario that they have a WIFI jammer, both neighbours adjacent me and across the road have wired CCTV! But they are useless in at night where you cant even identify the make of a vehicle. Whats fustrating for all involved is that with teenagers once caught regardless of how many times the court just slaps them on the wrist and let them off to do it all again the same day, one 13yr old had 67 charges! Edited January 14 by Addicted to music 2
JkSpinner Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Looking for similar advice. I have had Arlo for the past 5 years, always been trouble, one camera or more not recording, one camera only recording for 1 second, cannot retrieve recordings , some record to cloud service, others record locally, battery lasts minimal time, cannot be bothered installing the solar panels with wires dangling everywhere. And my biggest hate is they can be easily removed, knocked down etc, as they are kept in place magnetically or vie one tiny thread. I currently have 2 cameras not working. So I either need to buy two new cameras, or perhaps buy a new set. If I bought new, I would look at something that has 240v and maybe battery, wifi and or hard wired, can be permanently fixed securely. any suggestions
Kaynin Posted January 18 Posted January 18 2 hours ago, JkSpinner said: Looking for similar advice. I have had Arlo for the past 5 years, always been trouble, one camera or more not recording, one camera only recording for 1 second, cannot retrieve recordings , some record to cloud service, others record locally, battery lasts minimal time, cannot be bothered installing the solar panels with wires dangling everywhere. And my biggest hate is they can be easily removed, knocked down etc, as they are kept in place magnetically or vie one tiny thread. I currently have 2 cameras not working. So I either need to buy two new cameras, or perhaps buy a new set. If I bought new, I would look at something that has 240v and maybe battery, wifi and or hard wired, can be permanently fixed securely. any suggestions Hard wired cameras don’t need 240v, they are powered from your ethernet cable. It’s great, no need for a sparky at all. The camera is mounted into position, then an Ethernet cable runs direct from there to your NVR.
Kaynin Posted January 18 Posted January 18 4K recording 24/7, doesn’t miss a thing - Actually this reminds me that I need to give the dome a clean. That’s the only maintenance I do. 1
JkSpinner Posted January 18 Posted January 18 3 hours ago, Kaynin said: 4K recording 24/7, doesn’t miss a thing What solution are you using Kaynin
JkSpinner Posted January 18 Posted January 18 3 hours ago, Kaynin said: Hard wired cameras don’t need 240v, they are powered from your ethernet cable Good point, thanks, I never considered that 1
Kaynin Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, JkSpinner said: What solution are you using Kaynin Dahua dome network cameras via ethernet to Dahua NVR. I have a hdmi to my pc monitor so I can have a picture in picture when I want, or switch to full screen when required. An internal HDD in the NVR records all cameras 24/7. I have my phone and ipad remotely accessing every camera live, as well as the drive. Cameras are rated IP67 and IK10. Infrared light up to 30 metres, comes on at night which is visible to anyone walking past. I sourced the cameras and NVR from a company in Sydney, had a local install it for me. This is the seller, and the PVR- https://www.securitywholesalers.com.au/product/dahua-dhi-nvr5208-8p-4ks2-8-channel-8poe-pro-network-video-recorder-4tb-hdd/ Edited January 18 by Kaynin
Addicted to music Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) This 10th of january at 7:00am... Morning event of a local posting on the FB community page. They know there are cameras there. Infact if you enlarge the picure you can see a wireless Eufy camera mounted just above where they are trying to gain entry. There are 4 of them, they arrived in a black SUV that you can see across the road. They access the blind side of the house via the bins that are just sitting there. Once the gate is unlocked 3 go in and one stays in the vehicle to keep watch. Notice they are wearing gloves, the surgical mask prevents them getting identified. The SUV will either be stolen or have false plates, hence the reason why its so important the authorities get on there tail and catch them. Note there not interested in Wifi Jamming or switching the power OFF, its simply quick access get what they can get and go. Edited January 18 by Addicted to music 1 1
Kaynin Posted January 18 Posted January 18 5 minutes ago, Addicted to music said: hence the reason why its so important the authorities get on there tail and catch them. Don’t hold your breath…if the police pulled up right behind the SUV as it took off they wouldn’t even chase it…. 2
Addicted to music Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Just now, Kaynin said: Don’t hold your breath…if the police pulled up right behind the SUV as it took off they wouldn’t even chase it…. Thats if they are there to begin with. The only time they do anything is when they conduct an operation with the air wing above. Theres a local TV station on FB reporting there activity on a daily basis. ALL teenagers as young as 11-13. its not just males either, females are caught and are yelling abuse at the authorities. Saw a very graphic arrest at a servo station. When they are this young you have to asked where are the parents? Then they get let off and do it all again the same day! 1
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