Guest kryten2001 Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, MrC said: Yes it is why WA has rejected daylight saving so many times. We don't like our curtains being faded. I thought it was because our cows got confused?
MrC Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, kryten2001 said: I thought it was because our cows got confused? That as well ... a double whammy. Daylight saving has no chance .....
Luc Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 I was reliably informed some years ago about cable lifters and I liked the bloke so I went and bought what he recommended. I also 'Naruto'd' a speaker driver to see if I could hear the difference. Jury's still out on that one. But in all seriousness, I think our hobby is just an open target for the naysayers and I've long since stopped trying to justify either the ongoing cost to my wallet and also to all the people outside of our little audiophile world. I've made some very good friends here because of my hobby and and I've seen enough serious weirdness that is almost borderline certifiable in some peoples set-ups (and the people...lordy lordy)...to never cast a stone at them. If you think it works or if you like it then that's fine with me. It's my hobby and it makes up a huge amount of what I find pleasurable in the world and if I want to jam Naruto into a compression driver then I will. The only thing I draw the line at is @Yngvi 's mancave whisky table or man with belly table. It's a distraction and takes away from the eye candy in that room and of course the musical entertainment. Pass him on to Zinger, Eggy or send him up to @Telecine * Postscript. Lefthand speaker sounds like it needs fiddling with the toe-in and yes...you guessed it, it's the Naruto'd one. Oh dear what have I done. 8 1
cyclingsteve Posted May 8, 2019 Author Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) Yes but dont forget....if we introduce daylight savings more people will be exposed to the sun which means a higher chance of sunburn and other skin issues. @Luc, I agree that we do what makes us happy. I still remove the covers of my speakers before a listening session because I honestly can hear a difference ( or just like seeing the drivers) but I believe the difference is there. Im going to try lifting my cables of the ground with star wars figures. Edited May 8, 2019 by cyclingsteve 1
Guest deanB Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, cyclingsteve said: Im going to try lifting my cables of the ground with star wars figures. Try Game Of Thrones figures for a more old school sound.
Eggmeister Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, Luc said: I was reliably informed some years ago about cable lifters and I liked the bloke so I went and bought what he recommended. I also 'Naruto'd' a speaker driver to see if I could hear the difference. Jury's still out on that one. But in all seriousness, I think our hobby is just an open target for the naysayers and I've long since stopped trying to justify either the ongoing cost to my wallet and also to all the people outside of our little audiophile world. I've made some very good friends here because of my hobby and and I've seen enough serious weirdness that is almost borderline certifiable in some peoples set-ups (and the people...lordy lordy)...to never cast a stone at them. If you think it works or if you like it then that's fine with me. It's my hobby and it makes up a huge amount of what I find pleasurable in the world and if I want to jam Naruto into a compression driver then I will. The only thing I draw the line at is @Yngvi 's mancave whisky table or man with belly table. It's a distraction and takes away from the eye candy in that room and of course the musical entertainment. Pass him on to Zinger, Eggy or send him up to @Telecine * Postscript. Lefthand speaker sounds like it needs fiddling with the toe-in and yes...you guessed it, it's the Naruto'd one. Oh dear what have I done. 1
Luc Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Yngvi said: That's him! When did you start putting him in the backyard? Nevermind...just leave him there or send him to Zinger for awhile. 1
MIKE.D79 Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, cyclingsteve said: Ha.....my music always sounds more detailed and balanced after three scotches ( but it had to be Lagavulin) Ahhh, Lagavulin. what an absolute belter of a scotch, one of my favourites. [EDIT] Oh yea, snake oil, apply it liberally to the base of your capacitors and transformer and the grip and control your amp has over the speakers is increased by 50%!!! And Please don't forget to clean out the twin oscillating double decrapinators. most important. Edited May 8, 2019 by MIKE.D79
Luc Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 39 minutes ago, cyclingsteve said: @Luc, I agree that we do what makes us happy. I still remove the covers of my speakers before a listening session because I honestly can hear a difference ( or just like seeing the drivers) but I believe the difference is there. Im going to try lifting my cables of the ground with star wars figures. That's the spirit! As to the speaker covers; You know how they mostly have a frame around them and then that's covered in the material(bar some of the beautiful Italian jobbies with their drop curtain/louvred look) I'd almost swear that that frame would inhibit the radiation of sound surely? That bit of music that goes sideways, it hits that frame whereas it doesn't when the frames off. I rest my case. Next shibboleth please. @cyclingsteve cable lifters that automatically detect an unbeliever within shooting distance of your system... You can just see it can't you: Mrs CyclingSteve, Oh Steve this is my Aunt's hubby George I don't believe you've met before. Mrs Cycling Steve doesn't realise that behind the speakers, Steve has instituted a trial cable lifter routine separate from the Imperial Walkers. (George laughing) Hi Steve nice to meet you and I like the toys you have on the floor... Steve: Daleks!!! Nooooooo 2
eLicky Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 About 5-years there was a guy on youtube who sold power cables and enhancement stones for huge amounts of money. The company name was Coconut-Audio (maybe some people remember). He had many youtube vids promoting his products, these were 50% serious / 50% for lols I imagine and quite a good laugh. He had a website and actually sold these products, I think in the end he copped so much flack he removed all his youtube channel and shut down the website but these were the most bizarre /expensive power cables and audio products I've ever seen 1
eLicky Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) Found an actual video remaining someone else uploaded. Edited May 8, 2019 by Ewok209
MKSOUND_HT Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) Interesting question, I think if you had cut a piece of string in 2 the exact same size as each other I am sure you would have discussions on which one is better. At the same time its the huge difference to no difference and somewhere in between that keeps people interested and pondering at these fantastic interests. If it doesn't hurt anyone, I say why not. The same thing goes for pretty much every hobby in some amount (cars, movie reviews, food critics "The best Pizza in the country" (how many have we seen of that haha. Edited May 8, 2019 by MKSOUND_HT
PKay Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 Mark Waldrep's latest post - best to be at least aware when going to watch cable demonstrations. I had a great time at the recent AXPONA Show in Chicago chatting with old friends and meeting new AIX Records converts. Sold disc and books. I thought I would offer my loyal readers a special discount on the book. If you want to take advantage of this limited offer, use the coupon code MAAG190601 when you check out. I'll get your package out right away. Visit Music and Audio: A User Guide to Better Sound to get your copy today! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ So a few hours later, up pops the same post with a lengthy response to my "haha" response from a fellow member of the FB group letting me know how wrong I was and asking whether I had heard the cable demo at the recent AXPONA show? I hadn't at the recent show but I have in the past. In fact, if I visit demo rooms extolling the benefits of $4000 power cords (or even $50 ones), I'm usually recognized and the demos take a distinctly different trajectory. The presenters and the companies they work for can't handle the truth. The individual that responded to my laugh, detailed how he had been in the demo room of company X and was "blown away" at the difference he — and his wife — heard when the cheap cable was swapped for the company's top of the line cable. There was not doubt in his mind that the expensive cable produced better sound. It was not subtle. How could I laugh at his claim when the pricey cable clearly performed better? The truth is I so believe him! I'm sure that he heard better sound when that vendor's cable was used — just like the times that I've experienced the same phenomenon at trade shows in the past — including AXPONA or the show that the LA&OC Audio Society put on last summer in West Covina (the one that resulted in me getting kicked out of the society because I exposed the fraudulent demo of a cable vendor!) The fact is the audiophiles visiting these rooms and experiencing the demos ARE hearing actual differences! But the differences are not caused by the power cables! They are part of the "slight-of-hand" that these seasoned "magicians" perform during every show. It took some detective work to figure out how they're doing it but I've seen it in person and confirmed these methods with others who have experienced the same things. You might ask why would a cable or accessory company feel the need to fake the performance of their products? Why wouldn't they simply depend on the science to establish the superiority of their products? Well, the cable business — like the entire audio industry — is making huge profits by faking things — and no one is calling them on their fraud! Some of the major brands of cables are making tens of millions of dollars annually! They're fooling thousands of audio enthusiasts into spending stupid amounts of money of bogus cables and other other nonsensical devices or processes. Here are a couple of documented "tricks" that demonstrators have pulled: The expensive power cord is always played louder - The presenter will increase the volume when their pricey cord is inserted. When the cables are swapped, the volume is increased using a remote control hidden in their pocket. Carefully look at the amplitude readout on the preamplifier. This is what I — and another observer — confirmed was happening at the LA&OC event. The society president endorsed the fraud! The music played from their demo disc has multiple copies of the same music selection - this method is pretty clever and took a little sleuthing to figure out. As a former mastering engineer, I know how easy it is to subtly alter the EQ or volume of different tunes — that's an essential part of the job. However, to include multiple copies of the same tune on a single disc AND play the better sounding tracks (which have been mastered louder and brighter EQ) when demoing an expensive cable is pretty sneaky. But I've seen it done. Why do you think they never let attendees offer their own discs during the demos...I've offered my recordings and been flatly rejected every time. So it is highly unlikely that you will ever hear a legitimate cable demo at trade show or online. There's simply too much at stake...too much money! These companies have to pay for advertising in the big audio magazines and support the frequent "special cable issues", which always contain ridiculous reviews full of nonsensical statements. Have you ever read a negative cable review in a special issue? I haven't. As an industry, we don't do very well in the honesty department. The amount of misinformation and outright lies is shocking to those of us that have spent our careers working in audio recording. I will refrain from naming specific companies but you know who they are. Don't waste your money on power cords or other accessories that have no value in your system. /wp:paragraph 3
Guest Muon N' Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 2 hours ago, cyclingsteve said: Just for a bit of light hearted banter really. But being very open minded I might be inclined to test some of the unusual things like: 1.stand your speakers on a granite block 2. Sit your TT on 1/2 inch rubber mat Never know!!!! Why are these unusual? They are forms of isolation with grounding in real physics. Try these with or without bamboo boards on top of them as speaker or turntable platforms. https://www.bunnings.com.au/whites-50-x-50-x-12mm-anti-vibration-squares-8-pack_p3961977 https://www.bunnings.com.au/whites-on-site-100-x-12-5mm-rubber-anti-vibration-mat-4-pack_p3961547 As many have found... cheap effective isolation for components, won't notice anything with some components, but try with speakers and especially turntables.
PKay Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 (edited) Tara Labs "The Grand Master Evolution w/Dual" XLR interconnects in 1.5 m length. Price: Retail 42K Tara's top interconnect. "Dual mono block" floating ground station and floating shield. This sounds like an interconnect for the space shuttle. BTW Good luck to anyone who can afford to spend this sort of money on cables. I would rather have a sports car. Edited May 8, 2019 by PKay 2
Ittaku Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, PKay said: Tara Labs "The Grand Master Evolution w/Dual" XLR interconnects in 1.5 m length. Price: Retail 42K Tara's top interconnect. "Dual mono block" floating ground station and floating shield. This sounds like an interconnect for the space shuttle. BTW Good luck to anyone who can afford to spend this sort of money on cables. I would rather have a sports car. Siltech's "Triple Crown" range is similarly priced. Their speaker cables start at $60,000USD per pair.
andyr Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, PKay said: Tara Labs "The Grand Master Evolution w/Dual" XLR interconnects in 1.5 m length. Price: Retail 42K Tara's top interconnect. "Dual mono block" floating ground station and floating shield. 11 minutes ago, Ittaku said: Siltech's "Triple Crown" range is similarly priced. Their speaker cables start at $60,000USD per pair. There are increasing numbers of multi-millionaires in the USA, Russia, the Middle East, India & China - hence a growing market for people who will buy this sort of thing. Andy 2
PKay Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, andyr said: There are increasing numbers of multi-millionaires in the USA, Russia, the Middle East, India & China - hence a growing market for people who will buy this sort of thing. Andy We have some FS in our Classifieds as well as matching speaker cables so its not just the ROW.
PKay Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, Ittaku said: Siltech's "Triple Crown" range is similarly priced. Their speaker cables start at $60,000USD per pair. I'll stick with my Kimber 8TC thanks. 1
rantan Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, PKay said: I'll stick with my Kimber 8TC thanks. I will stay with my Aurealis LItz IC and speaker cables, most likely forever. Have tried so many cables over the years but these ,with a 3 figure price tag for both pairs combined, will see me out. Anyone even thinking about making a four or five figure cable purchase should audition these first. Very happy customer only, not a fanatic and no connection to the maker.
cyclingsteve Posted May 8, 2019 Author Posted May 8, 2019 42 minutes ago, Yngvi said: Still one of my favourites. What is that python-like sack, .......WAF = 0 2
two fold Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, cyclingsteve said: What is that python-like sack, .......WAF = 0 WAF? What do you want? Doilies on everything 3
Luc Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Yngvi said: Still one of my favourites. love it. 1
STROP Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, cyclingsteve said: What is that python-like sack, Don't really know, but it scared me on first sight. 2
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