1 hour ago, BugPowderDust said:

Hey @AccMagi7s they look stellar and I’m sure they do sound it too.
 

I’m curious though, as to why your listening position is basically on the back wall. I’d have thought your positioning would have strong early reflections from the rear wall which would result in comb filtering which often impacts detail and soundstage. You’re also more likely to have an unbalanced bass response sitting too close to a boundary.
 

maybe the picture doesn’t reflect the actual situation but I’d be trying to sit a little more into the room (at least 1m in) before locking the majestic m7s in place permanently.

 

anyway, I was in Perth yesterday but was flat out seeing a potential acquisition target. Next time

I’m in town I’d love a listen if you’re up for it. I’m going to go totally over the top in my next house and it would be good to see how the m7s perform in a real home so I can see if they start on the audition list.

Hello,

 

It appears that you are embarking on an exciting venture. I am also currently designing a new listening room with a greater emphasis on this second trial attempt, drawing upon the lessons learned from this room and my previous humble listening environment.

 

The room is approximately 6x10m, which is just adequate for an optimal listening experience for a true enthusiast. As you mentioned, the listening chair is slightly too close to the rear wall, which is why you observed the extensive treatment behind it. The top-of-the-art IKEA record storage serves as a bass trap, while diffusers with mid-bass placement provide additional support. All these elements were configured to achieve a balanced sonic response, which often presents challenges in its undressed state.

 

The room’s limited space allows for minimal overload or node formation in any particular frequency. Many individuals have visited and experienced the room, including those with decades of listening experience. They have expressed their satisfaction with the acoustic issues that appeared to have been addressed. Of course, there is always room for improvement, but achieving the correct physical dimensions is paramount. The remaining aspects can be refined later.

 

The M7s acquisition was a spontaneous decision and have proven to be the most rewarding choice from the outset. I travelled to Melbourne to experience them firsthand, and it was all worthwhile after years of searching and listening to numerous speakers both in Australia and internationally. Some, such as the Kharma, Tidal, and Marten, are in the millions of dollars range.

 

With my next build, I aim to optimise the dimensions to 8m x 16m with a ceiling height of 3.5m. The design phase is currently underway, and I am hopeful that all will progress smoothly.  

 

 

 

3 hours ago, BugPowderDust said:

Hey @AccMagi7s they look stellar and I’m sure they do sound it too.
 

I’m curious though, as to why your listening position is basically on the back wall. I’d have thought your positioning would have strong early reflections from the rear wall which would result in comb filtering which often impacts detail and soundstage. You’re also more likely to have an unbalanced bass response sitting too close to a boundary.
 

maybe the picture doesn’t reflect the actual situation but I’d be trying to sit a little more into the room (at least 1m in) before locking the majestic m7s in place permanently.

 

I'm with you on this BPD. I've been to a few other GTG's where this situation prevails and I don't understand why - remember Jones' first place Chanh? I would have thought the optimal position would be to have you're listening chair sitting on the red Gryphon logo on the rug. More enveloping, more volume, less reflection from the wall behind creating confusion. But, horses for courses and all that. You enjoy as you please, that's what matters.

1 hour ago, Grimmie said:

 

I'm with you on this BPD. I've been to a few other GTG's where this situation prevails and I don't understand why - remember Jones' first place Chanh? I would have thought the optimal position would be to have you're listening chair sitting on the red Gryphon logo on the rug. More enveloping, more volume, less reflection from the wall behind creating confusion. But, horses for courses and all that. You enjoy as you please, that's what matters.

Jonesy is largely confined to a room, akin to any conventional residence. In his most recent setup, I found myself in an optimal position where the staircase opening is situated just behind the wooden handrail. He possesses remarkable electronics, and it was distressing to witness him disconnecting from audio with his family and pursuing career advancement. The Mephisto monos and MSB select 2 have been collecting dust for several years now. I hope he will reach out to me seeking my assistance in babysitting for them, but it has been nothing but silent until now.😩😆

 

We have experimented with various positions within my room, and including locally where the Gryphon logo is situated, all sound is variable. However, the optimal position consistently returns to its original location. Larger scale, greater depth, and a wider soundstage are my preferences. At this position, the speakers blended seamlessly into the thin sonic dimensions of space. Bringing them closer provided an audible experience comparable to a live performance. 

 

Ultimately, it is highly subjective and individually tailored. I am particularly fond of large-scale soundstage, realism, and emotionally projecting sound imagery. Not everyone will share these preferences, and I can accept that. 🤪😁

After several days and nights, my ears required a respite, and my body necessitated a dose of vitamin D. Japanese cuisine provided the ideal respite for me. 

 

Happy Wednesday to you all. 😊

Upon returning from my break, I discovered that the seat is approximately 900mm from the rear wall. 

 

The Accuphade flag has vanished! Can you believe it? That can only mean one thing—excitement is in the air!

Be handy andy if a chair had overall height and backrest height adjustability

12 minutes ago, La scala said:

Be handy andy if a chair had overall height and backrest height adjustability

The back support does not meet the standards set by audiophiles, V. 

The quality of sound will be negatively impacted by frequencies that exceed the human hearing range when the back support is positioned at ear level. 😩🤣

19 hours ago, AccMagi7s said:

Oh, now I understand what you mean. I have two of the cheaper versions from Harvey Norman in the room. They were on special for $150 each and are the grey ones on either side.

love everything you have in your room 

yes those two are the best seats for listening for sure if you can get over the cost 😅

Edited June 11, 2025Jun 11 by blownaway

@AccMagi7s Try this music to see how it sounds on your system.

 

 

16 hours ago, vinilink said:

@AccMagi7s Try this music to see how it sounds on your system.

 

 

Apologies for the delay. It is challenging to concentrate on anything these days once I engage in listening using this setup. Nevertheless, I have finally get it done. I hope it does not sound overly crappy from your end.

Incidentally, iPhone recording and YouTube uploads never adequately capture the essence of the experience. 

 

 

23 minutes ago, AccMagi7s said:

Apologies for the delay. It is challenging to concentrate on anything these days once I engage in listening using this setup. Nevertheless, I have finally get it done. I hope it does not sound overly crappy from your end.

Incidentally, iPhone recording and YouTube uploads never adequately capture the essence of the experience. 

 

 

Certainly, I could feel the really deep and controlled bass on your M7 and doubt that you used the subs that are sitting on the corners. Listening to your system in your dedicated room would be so surreal. Lastly, I liked how you showed the album at the end of the clip on ipad.

23 minutes ago, vinilink said:

Certainly, I could feel the really deep and controlled bass on your M7 and doubt that you used the subs that are sitting on the corners. Listening to your system in your dedicated room would be so surreal. Lastly, I liked how you showed the album at the end of the clip on ipad.

I am compelled to dispose of those subwoofers. They are not connected to any other equipment. As far as I can tell, they are functioning as bass traps. They are occupying space that I am unable to allocate for other items, particularly surplus audio equipment, that I have accumulated within my residence. 

12 hours ago, AccMagi7s said:

Apologies for the delay. It is challenging to concentrate on anything these days once I engage in listening using this setup. Nevertheless, I have finally get it done. I hope it does not sound overly crappy from your end.

Incidentally, iPhone recording and YouTube uploads never adequately capture the essence of the experience. 

 

 

Hey Chahn 

Very Nicely recorded, i have wanted to record my system a few times but there are so many ways to do it. 

I like the sound you are getting, could you show me the set up you are using and what software if any. Are you using a mic etc? 

(Sorry if the second H in your name is in the wrong place, I know it’s in there somewhere, but can never remember where.)

23 minutes ago, russell66 said:

Hey Chahn 

Very Nicely recorded, i have wanted to record my system a few times but there are so many ways to do it. 

I like the sound you are getting, could you show me the set up you are using and what software if any. Are you using a mic etc? 

(Sorry if the second H in your name is in the wrong place, I know it’s in there somewhere, but can never remember where.)

Hi Russ,

 

Utilising my iPhone, I captured the video and directly uploaded it to YouTube via the YouTube application on my device. The process was straightforward, as my iPhone is equipped with an integrated microphone like all smartphones. 

Chanh

5 hours ago, AccMagi7s said:

Hi Russ,

 

Utilising my iPhone, I captured the video and directly uploaded it to YouTube via the YouTube application on my device. The process was straightforward, as my iPhone is equipped with an integrated microphone like all smartphones. 

Chanh

Thats interesting, i'll give it a go. There is so much talk about needing external mics. I use two external mics for my podcast, but honestly sometimes I revert back to the phone audio because it sounds better. I think it is trail and error for me with the recprding software. 

There are plenty of people on you tube recording their systems, I always assumed they used an elaborate set up, and i know some do, but it's good to know this quality level is available through the basic iphone mic.

Great album by the way, i hadn't listened to this one. Enter the sandman by her will sound blinding on your rig im sure.

 

6 hours ago, AccMagi7s said:

Hi Russ,

 

Utilising my iPhone, I captured the video and directly uploaded it to YouTube via the YouTube application on my device. The process was straightforward, as my iPhone is equipped with an integrated microphone like all smartphones. 

Chanh

Just while the thread is on the topic of phone recording, what dB level is the system playing at for tours, Chanh? It sounds marvellous even through the phone. 

1 hour ago, crtexcnndrm99 said:

Just while the thread is on the topic of phone recording, what dB level is the system playing at for tours, Chanh? It sounds marvellous even through the phone. 

On the Accuphase C3900 preamps, I adjusted the volume to 34, setting the gain at +6dB. The preamps has three settings from  +6dB, +12dB, and to +18dB. If the gain setting is higher than +6dB, for example, +12dB, the volume will be approximately 47dB. In my normal listening preferences, I typically listen to a volume level of around 34dB at +6dB. I have discovered that lower gain settings provide a more pleasant listening experience, eliminating any granny effects. This observation is another topic we can explore further at our next gathering. 

 

 

FYI all.

I will be conducting a speakers shootout this weekend after a week of auditioning, climatising the speakers and gaining sufficient hearing experience with my setup.

 

Contenders:

1. Siltech Royal Double Crowns - $90,000.00 a pair

2. Zenzati Silenzo - $65,000.00 a pair

3. Crystal Diamond - $25,000.00 a pair

4. Siltech Royal Prince - $22,500.00 a pair

5. Zenzati Zorro - $8,000.00 a pair

 

I intend to select one of these speakers to complement my current setup. I express my gratitude to all my friends, both locally and statewide, for loaning these speakers with me on this journey. 

Edited June 12, 2025Jun 12 by AccMagi7s

2 hours ago, russell66 said:

Thats interesting, i'll give it a go. There is so much talk about needing external mics. I use two external mics for my podcast, but honestly sometimes I revert back to the phone audio because it sounds better. I think it is trail and error for me with the recprding software. 

There are plenty of people on you tube recording their systems, I always assumed they used an elaborate set up, and i know some do, but it's good to know this quality level is available through the basic iphone mic.

Great album by the way, i hadn't listened to this one. Enter the sandman by her will sound blinding on your rig im sure.

 

External? Haha.. This hobby is already stressful enough, Russ. 

Just now, AccMagi7s said:

External? Haha.. This hobby is already stressful enough, Russ. 

@russell66 Upon your next visit, we can schedule a practice session together. Recording with a smartphone. 😊👍

Kevin from Class A contacted me regarding Poweramps. He recommended the Burmester 159 monos. I would like to seek your input on this matter. I have not seen them power Magico speakers. They are retail $449,000.00 a pair. 

https://www.burmester.de/en/home-audio/mono-power-amplifier/159/

 

Personally, if you're going into super high power land, I'd be looking at the Karan Powera monoblocks. https://stereonet.com/reviews/karan-acoustics-powera-mono-power-amplifiers-review

 

These have grip like nothing else I've had in my system. Even at low volumes, they exuded total control. But let them stretch their legs and be prepared to be blown away as the power just doesn't stop coming; it's semi frightening really. 

2 minutes ago, BugPowderDust said:

Personally, if you're going into super high power land, I'd be looking at the Karan Powera monoblocks. https://stereonet.com/reviews/karan-acoustics-powera-mono-power-amplifiers-review

 

These have grip like nothing else I've had in my system. Even at low volumes, they exuded total control. But let them stretch their legs and be prepared to be blown away as the power just doesn't stop coming; it's semi frightening really. 

I was captivated by Murli's audio setup, which consisted of a two-box Karan preamp connected to Kharma mono amplifiers. 

 

Personally, I find myself drawn to Class A power. The natural warmth it exudes resonates deeply with me, creating a listening experience that feels far more engaging than that of Class AB. This enduring affection for the Old Gryphon truly embodies my passion for the rich, immersive qualities of Class A amplification.

 

51 minutes ago, AccMagi7s said:

I was captivated by Murli's audio setup, which consisted of a two-box Karan preamp connected to Kharma mono amplifiers. 

 

Personally, I find myself drawn to Class A power. The natural warmth it exudes resonates deeply with me, creating a listening experience that feels far more engaging than that of Class AB. This enduring affection for the Old Gryphon truly embodies my passion for the rich, immersive qualities of Class A amplification.

 

I'd be careful of someone trying to sell you amplifiers based on matching the price tag of your speakers and while honest opinions on amplifiers that may match the m7s can be helpful any potential upgrade over the Gryphons should be based entirely on what speaks to your soul like your Gryphons do just on a higher level.

4 hours ago, AccMagi7s said:

I was captivated by Murli's audio setup, which consisted of a two-box Karan preamp connected to Kharma mono amplifiers. 

 

Personally, I find myself drawn to Class A power. The natural warmth it exudes resonates deeply with me, creating a listening experience that feels far more engaging than that of Class AB. This enduring affection for the Old Gryphon truly embodies my passion for the rich, immersive qualities of Class A amplification.

 

Yep, stick with what you know. The new Gryphon Antileon Revelation amps are the way to go! 
Mark