6 minutes ago, blybo said:

but not required every day. As long as I know what the long term trend is I'm happy.

yea bugger weighing in everyday, i use to weigh in once a week, and now lucky if i weigh in every 3 weeks. 
I go by my pants size

 

Man Hasn't Eaten Anything For 75 Years- Prahlad Jani

 

 

41 minutes ago, blybo said:

but not required every day. As long as I know what the long term trend is I'm happy.

I know not required... but its meant to be a reminder I think... to keep you on it  

12 hours ago, blybo said:

Thanks. Imagine if I had given up the grog too! I've been sensible of late, haven't given it up as I said I would, but cut right back and generally not drinking during the week the last few weeks. Even last night I had 1 pint at the pub and actually didn't want any more. Meal was disappointing but had a mars bar cake and the sugar crash afterwards was horrible, just felt bloated and so so tired, was ready for bed at 9pm

When I dropped 20kg I didn't give up the piss but drank low alcohol instead. I dont know if it helped but what helped was that I was losing weight without giving up living. I think Ive said before I made Friday my reward night with beer and pizza.

 

No better feeling mentally than realizing you feel sick after eating the type of thing you could easily scoff before. Or the amount. Its a sign your guts is shrinking which means you need less to fill up. Which means you eat less.. No matter what type of diet or philosophy you adopt less in is good.

7 hours ago, betty boop said:

I think the weight thing have to be wary off. it is important to weigh...

 

Wen you are seeing results its addictive. I really raced against the scales and I think it helped me. Seriously if I hadn't seen something in the first few weeks I would have given up.

What made me come un stuck was relenting on my hard core regime of no junk food because I was so happy with my result that I thought a bit here or there wouldn't hurt. Ive never gone back to the way I was but I didn't need to touch it at all. My employment circumstances changed and I stopped bike riding and then further lost my job and gave up gym. All of this was mental and excuses. But its easy to  get back into bad habits.

On 22/03/2019 at 7:26 AM, candyflip said:

Your body has finally let go of stasis (where it always prefers to be), and is in a changed metabolic mode.

If there is one piece of advice I could give from here, it's don't sabotage the state you have worked so hard mentally to get to, and which your body has resisted so hard physically up to now.

Take advantage of the unique chance to get more runs on the board while you can.

Stasis will return - and you need at that point to have set yourself up right with the new eating & drinking habits that you carry through for the rest of your skinny life.   

I wish I had taken more notice. I've put back on 9 kg's since March mostly in a 3 month period! The big lesson is that half hearted keto (high fat) with some carbs or sugar means quick weight gain. My wife convinced me to have a break from keto whilst we were camping at Easter time. I've struggled to get back to a strict keto diet since and some big issues at work the last 6 months have made stress eating and drinking of an evening more of a norm.

 

I am committed to getting back on the weight loss "cycle" and will up my riding now the weather is improving ?. I've already got the booze back under control and now need to concentrate on calorific intake and well as getting strict about keto again rather than the half arsed attempt of late that is clearly not the way to go.

weather getting better certainly helps ! ups the spirits too 

 

am doing more runs and walks and hopefully can get some riding in there too ! (bike has collected dust last few months !) 

2 hours ago, blybo said:

I wish I had taken more notice. I've put back on 9 kg's since March mostly in a 3 month period! The big lesson is that half hearted keto (high fat) with some carbs or sugar means quick weight gain. My wife convinced me to have a break from keto whilst we were camping at Easter time. I've struggled to get back to a strict keto diet since and some big issues at work the last 6 months have made stress eating and drinking of an evening more of a norm.

 

I am committed to getting back on the weight loss "cycle" and will up my riding now the weather is improving ?. I've already got the booze back under control and now need to concentrate on calorific intake and well as getting strict about keto again rather than the half arsed attempt of late that is clearly not the way to go.

It's a journey and a process mate.

You don't *have* to get it right, first time.

 

Get back on the go and aim high again - maybe this time will be the one that your changed diet becomes a permanent habit, instead?  

Never mind....

Edited October 9, 20196 yr by Muon N'

You southerners and ya' weather now getting better, up here It's beginning to get worse, 36 degrees yesterday *yuck*

45 minutes ago, Muon N' said:

You southerners and ya' weather now getting better, up here It's beginning to get worse, 36 degrees yesterday *yuck*

who needs to do any exercise to break a sweat... just walk outside

Well covid kgs suck. I'm now back to the point where I started this whole bloody keto/fasting thing a couple of years back and the drinking had become a covid norm every night... It's not like I'm going anywhere the next morning.

 

Started back on strict keto on Monday and had 2 zero alcohol days but had a bit too much scotch last night for a friends 50th birthday zoom party so a bit dusty this morning. I'm going back to no grog mid week (unless for a celebration) and trying to exercise daily, even if just a walk with the kids. I've set up my cycling pain cave in the office and it works pretty well as a dual function room.

 

Just need to get past the keto flu stage of these first few days, I've upped water intake which has helped but haven't felt the energy levels kick up yet and had minor headaches on and off which I've tried to get through with extra water etc.

 

I'm not asking for people to join me on this journey again, but if anybody is feeling the need for change but needs some encouragement, hop on board.

My approach to dieting is based on some advice that my GP brother gave me a while ago.

He looked at a number of meta-studies of diets and concluded that all sensible diets work as long as you can stick to them.

The bit in italics is the key… it doesn't matter what (sensible) diet you choose, just make sure it's one you can stay with for many many years.

1 hour ago, blybo said:

Well covid kgs suck. I'm now back to the point where I started this whole bloody keto/fasting thing a couple of years back and the drinking had become a covid norm every night... It's not like I'm going anywhere the next morning.

 

Started back on strict keto on Monday and had 2 zero alcohol days but had a bit too much scotch last night for a friends 50th birthday zoom party so a bit dusty this morning. I'm going back to no grog mid week (unless for a celebration) and trying to exercise daily, even if just a walk with the kids. I've set up my cycling pain cave in the office and it works pretty well as a dual function room.

 

Just need to get past the keto flu stage of these first few days, I've upped water intake which has helped but haven't felt the energy levels kick up yet and had minor headaches on and off which I've tried to get through with extra water etc.

 

I'm not asking for people to join me on this journey again, but if anybody is feeling the need for change but needs some encouragement, hop on board.

I am on board Neil ,

What I am doing is eating 1 proper meal a day for 5 days ( work days ). I  have a shake made with blueberry , spinach , Chia seeds and Almond milk during day and 1 healthy meal at night. Started last week and have lost 1.4 kilos in the first week. Planning to do this for 2 months. I do eat normal for 3 days including Alcohol. Will see how it goes. I am 82 and want to get to 72. Good Luck Mate.

1 hour ago, gillmaverick said:

I am on board Neil ,

What I am doing is eating 1 proper meal a day for 5 days ( work days ). I  have a shake made with blueberry , spinach , Chia seeds and Almond milk during day and 1 healthy meal at night. Started last week and have lost 1.4 kilos in the first week. Planning to do this for 2 months. I do eat normal for 3 days including Alcohol. Will see how it goes. I am 82 and want to get to 72. Good Luck Mate.

Well done. My long term goal is 80kgs, unfortunately I've raised my bat and currently over 100kgs. Last time I did this I went from 105kg's down to 89 in 3 months but life got in the way. Not much happening in life ATM so a good time to start I think, rather than just blaming all my vices on Covid and lockdown. I will probably get back to fasting once I get used to the feeling of being hungry. ATM it's all too easy to walk to the pantry and snack, so keto breaks that cycle for me as we don't generally buy keto friendly treats.

3 hours ago, blybo said:

Well covid kgs suck. I'm now back to the point where I started this whole bloody keto/fasting thing a couple of years back and the drinking had become a covid norm every night... It's not like I'm going anywhere the next morning.

 

Started back on strict keto on Monday and had 2 zero alcohol days but had a bit too much scotch last night for a friends 50th birthday zoom party so a bit dusty this morning. I'm going back to no grog mid week (unless for a celebration) and trying to exercise daily, even if just a walk with the kids. I've set up my cycling pain cave in the office and it works pretty well as a dual function room.

 

Just need to get past the keto flu stage of these first few days, I've upped water intake which has helped but haven't felt the energy levels kick up yet and had minor headaches on and off which I've tried to get through with extra water etc.

 

I'm not asking for people to join me on this journey again, but if anybody is feeling the need for change but needs some encouragement, hop on board.

I'm 7 weeks into the keto diet, stick with it you'll manage. I still have a drink at weekends, but I don't drink during the week.

25 minutes ago, Batty said:

I still have a drink at weekends, but I don't drink during the week.

Cool. I found that Mountain Goat's Hightail Ale is carb free if that helps. It's my go to (winter) beer along with zero sugar Bundy & Coke or straight scotch.

 

Found any other good tips? I find lunch to be the hardest, especially during the colder months when a salad is not that exciting. I'm buying a paleo muesli from Woolies which is very low in carbs to have with yogurt as an alternative to the usual keto bacon and eggs or avo for breakfast. I do like the pork crackle as a snack but eating too much of that can't be good for cholesterol.

As long as you are off sugar including fruit and starch, fat is not a problem, in fact it is your fuel.

Counting calories is not a good thing, just look out for the carbs, the rest will come.

Lunch for me during the week is left over from the night before as my wife cooks enough for 3.

 

So, no potatoes, rice, pasta, pastry, root vegetables, legumes (inc peanuts), beer, wine, premix drinks or fruit.

plenty of Butter, cheese, eggs, bacon, leafy veg, protein, low carb yoghurt, sugar free jelly, 86%+ dark choccy in moderation, plenty of water.

Celery is a good source of salt.

 

I drink plenty of water and only drink scotch for my grog fix

 

Forgot to add, Strawberries, raspberries, blueberries etc are good too.

 

NO PROCESSED FOOD. But you knew that.

 

Edited August 20, 20205 yr by Batty

47 minutes ago, Batty said:

As long as you are off sugar including fruit and starch, fat is not a problem, in fact it is your fuel.

Counting calories is not a good thing, just look out for the carbs, the rest will come.

Lunch for me during the week is left over from the night before as my wife cooks enough for 3.

 

So, no potatoes, rice, pasta, pastry, root vegetables, legumes (inc peanuts), beer, wine, premix drinks or fruit.

plenty of Butter, cheese, eggs, bacon, leafy veg, protein, low carb yoghurt, sugar free jelly, 86%+ dark choccy in moderation, plenty of water.

Celery is a good source of salt.

 

I drink plenty of water and only drink scotch for my grog fix

 

Forgot to add, Strawberries, raspberries, blueberries etc are good too.

 

NO PROCESSED FOOD. But you knew that.

 

Yep agree with this - except I have beans/lentils occasionally - but they are high in carbs.

 

I ITF 16/8 most of the time. Focused on reducing carbs, watching portion size and some moderate activity and went from 78 to 70 kg in 3 months. Had a body scan and I had actually lost a little too much fat and muscle now so slowly adding muscle. Wine 4 nights a week (250ml) does no damage (in fact oftern the wine nights I lose weight). Big dinners are bad the next day but if you monitor regularly you know when to cut back for a bit. The body seem to like certain weights so it can get stuck for a while but eventually it pushes through. Oh and full fat greek yoghurt for me with oats (also high carb but good fibre), nuts, blueberries and chia seeds. Yum.

Edited August 20, 20205 yr by pops9745

A little proud of myself yesterday. Wife worked till mid arvo and I cleaned most of the house before she got home, so the energy is returning. As is the brain focus, I found this was 1 of the biggest boosts for me last time I tried keto.

 

We had a family zoom trivia & pizza night last night, so I made a mozzarella & almond meal pizza base. Eating left overs for lunch today, half the pizza was just too filling. Tasted great although the base didn't crisp up like a normal base.

This was an enlightening listen from an expert in the fasting / bio hacking / medicine space: https://peterattiamd.com/ama11/

 

“

We discuss:

• Defining the various fasting protocols [1:00];
• Why Peter plans to switch to a 3-day fast once per month in 2020 [11:00];
• How Peter uses his CGM to gain insights into the depth of fast [13:15];
• Peter’s supplement protocol during fasting, and why he eats a ketogenic diet leading up to a prolonged fast [17:00];
• Peter’s exercise regimen during a fast [23:30];
• Peter’s hunger levels during a typical 7-day fast [26:45];
• Fasting observations—Core body temperature and thyroid hormone [30:30];
• Fasting observations—Glucose, BHB, and hunger levels [33:15];
• Peter’s sleep protocol during a fast [40:15];
• Does Peter observe any differences between men and women in their ability to fast? [47:00];
• How Peter prefers to break a long fast [50:15];
• Importance of community support while fasting, and is there a perfect fasting protocol? [52:00]; and”