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Whisky V whiskey

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New to Whisky drinking I enjoy scotch and Cognac and I have s mild liking for Irish Whiskey

I have a very dry palate when it comes to wine

The one or two American whiskey's I've tasted are overly sweet

When I google. "Whiskey that isn't sweet" I find multiple reviews of ppl who adore sweet American whiskey!

Am I wasting my time? Are they all sweet ?

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  • It never fails to bemuse me when fans of a style of whisky/whiskey or music seem compelled to tear down alternatives to their outlook.

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This one works for me.

Can you let us know which American whiskey's you have tried and found too sweet? That should help with some context.

I like Wild Turkey but find it a bit sweet.

Good Old Jack D Old No 7 does not taste too sweet to my palate.However it surreptitiously lowered it's alcohol content in the early Noughties in a move which was condemned by Modern Drunkard Magazine

http://www.drunkard.com/03_05_jack_daniel/

 Well worth a read although don't go there if you like Champagne. They effin hate the stuff.

But I digress

Typically rye whiskeys (51% rye mash) are spicier compared to malted barley, corn or wheat.

Some good info to start with here.

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Had a commercial jack Daniels maybe #7

Wild turkey tastes like a sweet after dinner dessert white wine.

I'm sounding fussy here

I am fussy here

And very willing to be told bourbon and rye are not for me

CONTEXT

I like dry sherry -as dry as Flint chips

Cognac is dry

Beer is sweetish

I brew my own cider there isn't a commercial example I've found dry enough

Try Japanese whisky. I have recently bought a bottle of Hibiki Harmony as you can't buy the 12 year old anymore. That stuff is so smooth and easy drinking - Beware it is way too easy drinking.

Parker's Heritage has a dry, woody finish.

Four Roses is dry to a degree, but I guess not quite as dry as you would like.

High West Double Rye would also be well worth a visit.

 

Maybe a trip to one of the great bars around Melbourne - Whiskey & Alement, Boilermaker House, EDV, Cure or Nant Bar.

You might need something with a bit more age on it so the barrel speaks a bit louder to balance the corn sweetness better for your palate. Something like the Russell's Reserve rye or bourbon at 10YO perhaps.

 

You could always try something with a bit more ABV under it's belt too. The sweetness of the bourbon playing against the astringency of the alcohol can be pleasing - eg bakers/bookers from Beam.

Bring back Corio and Ned Kelly

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You might need something with a bit more age on it so the barrel speaks a bit louder to balance the corn sweetness better for your palate. Something like the Russell's Reserve rye or bourbon at 10YO perhaps.

 

You could always try something with a bit more ABV under it's belt too. The sweetness of the bourbon playing against the astringency of the alcohol can be pleasing - eg bakers/bookers from Beam.

Very informative

in any case, there's little point in the spirits equivalent of coca cola, tastes the same on first taste at the front of the tongue, in the mouth, and after the last swallow at the back of the throat. A good whisky exhibits some variety and keeps you interested. I've not found a truly dry American whiskey, they seem designed to mix with coke, for a nation bought up on coke.

 

you may be approaching this the wrong way. My eccentric whisky friend, the same person who introduced me to Swedish whisky, inflicted some raw corn likker on me once. Jack Daniels drunk straight afterwards was dry by comparison.

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Some great advice here

The Whisky bar option appeals buy by the bottle and not liking it and trying to feed it to @@ThirdDrawerDown when he finally reviews the maggies is a an expensive way to go.

Best value whiskey bar in cbd is ??

Edit not one that also does the cigar thing I gave away that and my pipes nearly 40 years ago

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spend your time exploring Scotland's finest peats

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Life's too short to drink the seppo shite - just spend your time exploring Scotland's finest peats

Dude, that's actually super offensive. No-ones heritage should be casually subjected to that kind of biggotry. Respect always. However, I do share your dislike of American Whiskey.

On a more positive note....

Check out Bad Frankie just off Smith St. ONLY Australian booze and they know their stuff....

Peace

@spyne has listed them.

 

My pref is Whiskey & Alement.  They rebuilt the place so the smokers would be out of sight and out of smelling range.  I wish the same principle could be extended to Melbourne's trams, where people who reek of tobacco are required to ride on top or something.

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Dude, that's actually super offensive. No-ones heritage should be casually subjected to that kind of biggotry. Respect always. However, I do share your dislike of American Whiskey.

On a more positive note....

Check out Bad Frankie just off Smith St. ONLY Australian booze and they know their stuff....

Peace

 

If Bad Frankie only serves Australian booze then there's little hope of @@djb getting to try some American whiskey, is there?

I've listed a few that are worth visiting - Whisky & Alement and Boilermaker House have arguably the biggest range, though typically they all lean to the Scotch/Irish side of the world, but sure to have quite a number of American and world whiskeys to sample, too.

If Bad Frankie only serves Australian booze then there's little hope of @@djb getting to try some American whiskey, is there?

I've listed a few that are worth visiting - Whisky & Alement and Boilermaker House have arguably the biggest range, though typically they all lean to the Scotch/Irish side of the world, but sure to have quite a number of American and world whiskeys to sample, too.

I reckon there's probably some Australian American style whiskey there. The owner was at Whisky and Alement and is very knowledgable about booze in general....and always up for a chat

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Will check them both

I walk the length of Smith st most days for exercise

Fangs really should leave his semi rural abode and move to the CBD he knows it better than me

Will keep an open mind but the non sweet bourbons/rye would seem few

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@@Nap250 the Japanese make beautiful Whisky.

Tried something with "green" in the name a delight single malt.

You must introduce me to your eccentric friend some time @@ThirdDrawerDown

There is whisky.  It comes from Scotland, although a case can be made that it comes also from Japan and Tasmania. 

Then there are other, inferior liquids that simply abuse the name of the water of life.

japanese whiskys would be a good place to start..

 

You must introduce me to your eccentric friend some time

 

A lovely man whose sensibilities were attacked by being a DJ in Country Australia in the night hours. AS a result his collection of krautrock, indie, punk, dub, reggae, world, blues and anything else you don't hear on the radio is just superb.  All sorts of weird ****.

 

Unfortunately he has taken the same approach to his passion for whisky.  A despairing search for something to match a decent Scots single malt.

It never fails to bemuse me when fans of a style of whisky/whiskey or music seem compelled to tear down alternatives to their outlook.

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@@k-k-k-kenny Tasmanian Whisky ? Enlighten me

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