rantan Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, aussievintage said: Had a quick look. Looks like they manage demand by not having an unlimited residential plan. Not sure how I feel about that. I do hate the slowdown at peak times, so if they really don't have that problem, maybe... It depends on your usage. The problem with unlimited, is that ISPs cannot provision adequate CVC for all customers to have unlimited plans at reasonable prices and make a profit, it really is that simple. ABB do a "stop sell " in areas where 80% of capacity is reached so congestion is not an issue and in most respects they are the "new old Internode" from the Simon Hackett days when Internode was a showpiece ISP. I have conducted several speed tests over the last week since I connected and even at 8pm on Monday evening I was achieving 42/16 on a 50/20 plan, which is close to the actual achievable maximum anyway. Edited February 19, 2018 by rantan
brumby Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, rantan said: It depends on your usage. The problem with unlimited, is that ISPs cannot provision adequate CVC for all customers to have unlimited plans at reasonable prices and make a profit, it really is that simple. ABB do a "stop sell " in areas where 80% of capacity is reached so congestion is not an issue and in most respects they are the "new old Internode" from the Simon Hackett days when Internode was a showpiece ISP. I have conducted several speed tests over the last week since I connected and even at 8pm on Monday evening I was achieving 42/16 on a 50/20 plan, which is close to the actual achievable maximum anyway. I would never go with an ISP which offers "unlimited" plans. That is a recipe for the "six o clock slowdown" IMHO and most of the ISPs which offer such plans have that problem. I have two neighbours who are going to get Aussie Broadband (ABB) on my recommendation. Both were knocked back until March because ABB had reached a capacity in our area (we are all FTTN) where it couldn't guarantee their speeds. IMHO that proves that ABB is serious about giving their customers the speed they are paying for. A lot of Aussie ISPs are anything but. I'm on a 50/20 plan at 500 Gb a month and have never seen a download speed of less than 40 Mb/s at any time of day. Also, ABB have introduced a plan where you can tailor your monthly quota to suit your usage - anywhere from 100 to 1000 Gb/month. Admittedly, reducing your monthly quota from 500 to 200 Gb only saves you $5/month so it's no big deal. There are only two of us here and we're not gamers or download fiends. We do, however, do a fair amount of Netflix streaming and You Tubing. And I'm going to be streaming Tidal (or maybe Deezer) which won't add much to our usage, I don't think. In our first NBN month we used about 160 Gb. That has now declined to smooth out at a bit more than 100 Gb a month. One other point. I was thinking of upgrading my Router (NetComm NF8AC as supplied by ABB) and/or adding network extender(s) to get better Wi Fi coverage throughout the house and outside on the deck. So I did a speed test throughout the house. The router is set up in my office at one end of the house. Our main TV/Stereo setup is in the living room at the other end of the house - about 15 metres away and through at least two walls. The speed test showed that the speed everywhere inside the house was within 10 percent or less of the speed test taken right beside the router in the office. It was only on the deck that the speed dropped significantly - from 44 Mb/s to about 26 Mb/s. And unless I want to stream 4K video out there (which I don't), I can't see it being a problem. I don't think most people would need a quota above 500 Gb (or even 200 Gb) a month or speeds of over 50/20 Mb/s. The trick it to GET those speeds and I don't think any of the "unlimited" speed ISPs can provide them reliably. Edited February 19, 2018 by brumby 1
rocky500 Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 I was going to go ABB but unfortunately when I thought on it, I am pretty locked into iinet. Have many email address's attached with them over the last 12 years and would be a nightmare to change that. So upgraded my ADSL to iinet NBN and it has worked out way better than expected. I share my internet (free for them) with the next door neighbor and another who lives 200m away. (Nanaostation M5's). They netflix a bit too. I get consistent 40+ anytime so far on a 50 plan. Not sure how long that will last but has been seamless so far since early Jan. I have no contract just in case. Using a TPLink VR600v Voip modem router.
aussievintage Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, rocky500 said: I get consistent 40+ anytime so far on a 50 plan. Not sure how long that will last but has been seamless so far since early Jan. . i would have thought that all providers would be being a bit careful lately given the publicity and legal threats about this recently. Even on unlimited plans, or maybe especially so...
catman Posted February 22, 2018 Author Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) G'day all, NBN was connected here today, and it seems ok. A bit faster than my previous ADSL, but not massively so. Speed test indicates about 25 Mbps download and about 6 Mbps upload. Is that ok? Regards, Felix. Edited February 22, 2018 by catman Spelling.
rantan Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, catman said: G'day all, NBN was connected here today, and it seems ok. A bit faster than my previous ADSL, but not massively so. Speed test indicates about 25 Mbps download and about 6 Mbps upload. Is that ok? Regards, Felix. That depends on what plan you signed up for. If it is 25/12 then you are going amazingly well, OTOH if it is a 50/20 it is crap. Edited February 22, 2018 by rantan
catman Posted February 22, 2018 Author Posted February 22, 2018 G'day mate, I wouldn't have a clue tbh, but it's ok. Regards, Felix.
rantan Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 OK. Who did you sign up with? What was the name/speed of that plan? You would have been given a choice and if you don't know what you signed up for you have no way of knowing if you are getting what you paid for.
davewantsmoore Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 On 07/02/2018 at 9:08 AM, catman said: Why? Find a better ISP.
catman Posted February 22, 2018 Author Posted February 22, 2018 G'day mate, my sad but cynical life observation is that any organisation run by people is more than likely to stuff it up sometime or other! Regards, Felix.
brumby Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 2 hours ago, catman said: G'day mate, my sad but cynical life observation is that any organisation run by people is more than likely to stuff it up sometime or other! Regards, Felix. Bloody hell, Felix, I have yet to encounter an organisation which is not run by people. I have yet to encounter an omnipotent and/or omniscient person. EVERYBODY, without any exception, stuffs it up sometime or other. That's a given, we go from there. If, by your own statement, you wouldn't have a clue what you signed up for, then there ain't much that any of us can do for you. As rantan said, your service might be excellent or execrable depending on the plan you chose. Why don't you tell us what it was and maybe a light might dawn.
couchy Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Hi Catman. Whats your plan. I am on unlimited data ,100 Mbit plan for $59.99 a month .I have speedtests reach 97 Mbit down and 36 Mbit upload. Super happy.
rantan Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, couchy said: Hi Catman. Whats your plan. I am on unlimited data ,100 Mbit plan for $59.99 a month .I have speedtests reach 97 Mbit down and 36 Mbit upload. Super happy. I asked him and was trying to help but he said he doesn't know what the plan is, so I gave up.
couchy Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 I asked him and was trying to help but he said he doesn't know what the plan is, so I gave up. ok
catman Posted February 22, 2018 Author Posted February 22, 2018 G'day all, sorry that I appear to have not been overly communicative on this matter but I've had a lot on my mind of late really messing up my general state of mind. I'm with Telstra for NBN mostly because I used to work for them years ago, so I guess that I feel some sense of 'loyalty'. NBN as I have it here now is working ok although in several 'physical' respects it is less than totally satisfactory, but is generally workable overall. That is all really. Regards, Felix.
Guest vagabond Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 My 2nd prize NBN connection* has been put back from "Jan-Mar 2018" to "Oct-Dec 2018". At least they're still claiming it's this year, although I suspect it won't happen. *FTTC is 2nd prize in the Fraudband™ Lottery. FTTP is obviously 1st prize, the rest are also-rans.
aussievintage Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 I'll go one better, mine has been put back to Jan-Mar 2019 !! They don't have a clue what's really happening. Last week I was getting calls to get me to sign up, - this week, it will be another year. I s'pose that's a good thing though
Guest Eggcup The Daft Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 http://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-43211192/moon-to-get-4g-mobile-network If you're fed up with Australian broadband, the Moon looks good in a year or two.(It is Vodaphone though)
crisis Posted February 28, 2018 Posted February 28, 2018 I got an email from Internode today saying they realised the issues with speed and offering to let me down grade if the speeds I was paying for were not possible due to the infrastructure. I guess they are trying to be fair. My service varies a lot from excellent to crap. At least they are aware and clam they are looking at ways to improve it. I doubt you would get that from Telstra...
Eth Nick Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 Connected three weeks ago (FTTN). I have 2 nodes nearby....one 250m in one direction, the other 350m in the opposite direction. Thought I'd be on one of those. Had pamphlets mailed to me advertising 12/25/50/100mbps download speed tier options. Thought beauty.... I'll trial 25mbps initially & if that's ok, I'll upgrade as I want the fastest I can get. Started well, ADSL was 8mbps down/0.8mbps up, & after moving to NBN25, it's now 22mbps down/9mbps up. So I asked for the speed boosts & was told they'll trial 50mbps & if that's ok, then 100mbps will be activated. I noticed after a week my speeds hadn't changed, yet my plan name was changed to 50mbps. After many calls, I was told my node is 1km away & something called 'co-existence' (where ADSL & NBN services run through the same cables) are limiting me from accessing anything above 26mbps. I'm very frustrated as I was falsely advertised speed tiers above 26mbps. Currently waiting on my RSP to pass my complaint to NBN who've said they can change the node I'm connected to. I have my doubts about that, but it won't stop me from badgering these crooks who've decided to promise one thing yet not deliver it. FRAUDBAND.
couchy Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 On 3/1/2018 at 10:25 PM, Ralfi said: Connected three weeks ago (FTTN). I have 2 nodes nearby....one 250m in one direction, the other 350m in the opposite direction. Thought I'd be on one of those. Had pamphlets mailed to me advertising 12/25/50/100mbps download speed tier options. Thought beauty.... I'll trial 25mbps initially & if that's ok, I'll upgrade as I want the fastest I can get. Started well, ADSL was 8mbps down/0.8mbps up, & after moving to NBN25, it's now 22mbps down/9mbps up. So I asked for the speed boosts & was told they'll trial 50mbps & if that's ok, then 100mbps will be activated. I noticed after a week my speeds hadn't changed, yet my plan name was changed to 50mbps. After many calls, I was told my node is 1km away & something called 'co-existence' (where ADSL & NBN services run through the same cables) are limiting me from accessing anything above 26mbps. I'm very frustrated as I was falsely advertised speed tiers above 26mbps. Currently waiting on my RSP to pass my complaint to NBN who've said they can change the node I'm connected to. I have my doubts about that, but it won't stop me from badgering these crooks who've decided to promise one thing yet not deliver it. FRAUDBAND. Our nodes are a similar distance ,also been on a few weeks and are getting 90 plus Mbps consistently.
Eth Nick Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 On 03/03/2018 at 10:16 AM, couchy said: Our nodes are a similar distance ,also been on a few weeks and are getting 90 plus Mbps consistently. 90mbps on a Node 1km away??? Been told by many that that's unachievable. Are you sure? The below chart shows the speed drop off's for VDSL... Source: https://nbnmyths.wordpress.com/why-not-fttn/
couchy Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Ralfi said: 90mbps on a Node 1km away??? Been told by many that that's unachievable. Are you sure? The below chart shows the speed drop off's for VDSL... Source: https://nbnmyths.wordpress.com/why-not-fttn/ Our node is either 250mt one way or 350mt the other way. I am not sure which one I am connected to. Our best speedtest to date is 97.60 Mbps.
Eth Nick Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 5 hours ago, couchy said: Our node is either 250mt one way or 350mt the other way. I am not sure which one I am connected to. Our best speedtest to date is 97.60 Mbps. Oh thanks for clarifying. Arrrgh....I should've been on an equivalent node... How long after NBN became available to your area did you sign up? Straight away, or did you wait a while?
GregWormald Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 Once the NBN arrived I transferred over--with my already satisfactory provider, and they continued to provide what I paid for. I suggest that the NBN is less important than the company that sells (or over-sells) the service.
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