Sitt Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 I'm in the market for a UHD 4K player and was thinking about the Panasonic DMP-U900 especially now that the price has dropped. I have tried to do a comparison between the new UB400 and the U900 but can't really see any benefit of the newer player over the previous model. I'm thinking it may be better to buy the older model - is there a benefit of getting the new UB400 that I missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jutta Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 The 400 is a lower spec model. But does everything the same mostly. You lose audio outs I think Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman1503561291 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 On 07/05/2017 at 5:15 PM, cwt said: Mmm good point jutta ; I would have waited a few weeks and bought a pana ub300 Blackman [ you don't really want to pay more for multi analog out that you wont ever need ] and wait for the oppo to get dolby vision and discs to turn up - it may be a while .... Then compare ; it could save heaps = do you really need sacd disc playback.. The oppo doesn't have 4k Netflix or possible 4k amazon either. In the interim you can see if your Yamaha avr can handle a true UHD hdr10 signal from the pana's single hdmi output . If its got a clean passthrough there is no need to run separate video/audio hdmi outs [ and you will have tested it for when you want to sell] . Thats what an avr is designed for ; easy switching of hdmi and losing the inevitable rats nest of cables... na I have the Pana now and when Dolby Vision comes out on some disc it will be time for Oppo to come out with a new model and being the No 1 players again on the PQ side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman1503561291 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Talk about DV I read some where about the first DV UHD Blu ray Coming out but I forgot what it was. Does anyone know what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman1503561291 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 25 minutes ago, Blackman1503561291 said: Talk about DV I read some where about the first DV UHD Blu ray Coming out but I forgot what it was. Does anyone know what it is? Should have done a google. http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1490785058 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I tend to find my Pana on my LG which has no HDR seems not that crisp. Often a standard Bluray on my Oppo looks better than the 4K on the Pana Don't know if I have some setting wrong or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwt Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Blackman1503561291 said: na I have the Pana now and when Dolby Vision comes out on some disc it will be time for Oppo to come out with a new model and being the No 1 players again on the PQ side. Don't expect a new model oppo too soon Blackman ; they have to recoup all the r&d costs on the current "all new'" chassis and chipset Any new oppo wont be much better on the pq side ; they have in the past just swapped chipsets like qdeo and abt for their sd models which affects dvd's primarily .. Heres a good read on how consistent past generations of oppo's have been from the people who rated heaps of dvd players in the past [secrets dvd benchmark] http://hometheaterhifi.com/technical/technical-reviews/blu-ray-player-hdmi-benchmark-introduction/ The other wrinkle is of course HDR10+ ; If it takes off you may be happy with just the 1 player But Ime a stinge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, cwt said: Don't expect a new model oppo too soon Blackman ; they have to recoup all the r&d costs on the current "all new'" chassis and chipset Any new oppo wont be much better on the pq side ; they have in the past just swapped chipsets like qdeo and abt for their sd models which affects dvd's primarily .. Heres a good read on how consistent past generations of oppo's have been from the people who rated heaps of dvd players in the past [secrets dvd benchmark] http://hometheaterhifi.com/technical/technical-reviews/blu-ray-player-hdmi-benchmark-introduction/ The other wrinkle is of course HDR10+ ; If it takes off you may be happy with just the 1 player But Ime a stinge Any other manufacturers releasing 4K players that will support DV? Sony have one although it's not available here yet AFAIK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoggieHowser Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 LG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwt Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Yes LG ; a bit thin on the ground being proprietary tech ; maybe the Philips will turn up ? http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1483982195 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman1503561291 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 17 hours ago, cwt said: Don't expect a new model oppo too soon Blackman ; they have to recoup all the r&d costs on the current "all new'" chassis and chipset Any new oppo wont be much better on the pq side ; they have in the past just swapped chipsets like qdeo and abt for their sd models which affects dvd's primarily .. Heres a good read on how consistent past generations of oppo's have been from the people who rated heaps of dvd players in the past [secrets dvd benchmark] http://hometheaterhifi.com/technical/technical-reviews/blu-ray-player-hdmi-benchmark-introduction/ The other wrinkle is of course HDR10+ ; If it takes off you may be happy with just the 1 player But Ime a stinge Yes unfortunately I will have to buy a DV Oppo in the next few months as DV UHD disk will soon be coming out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, Blackman1503561291 said: Yes unfortunately I will have to buy a DV Oppo in the next few months as DV UHD disk will soon be coming out The discs have both DV and HDR10 akaik so you don't need to rush out and get a dud Oppo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman1503561291 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, duke said: The discs have both DV and HDR10 akaik so you don't need to rush out and get a dud Oppo. Yes I will wait for some feed back on the Oppo for DV as people are still having trouble with the Oppo 203 as one said he cannot or having trouble with Unforgiven in UHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petetherock Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Can I confirm that the Panny doesn't support DV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSmith Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 2 hours ago, duke said: The discs have both DV and HDR10 akaik so you don't need to rush out and get a dud Oppo. There's not many yet with DV is there? http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1490785058 JSmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 4 hours ago, petetherock said: Can I confirm that the Panny doesn't support DV? It could potentially support DV, subject to adequate processing power and Panasonic providing a firmware update - I wouldn't hold my breath waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwt Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 4 hours ago, Quark said: It could potentially support DV, subject to adequate processing power and Panasonic providing a firmware update - I wouldn't hold my breath waiting. If only Everything Ive read says a dolby vision chip would be required , The ground keeps moving with this xx unfortunately http://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-high-dynamic-range-hdr-wide-color-gamut-wcg/2476065-could-dolby-vision-firmware-upgrade.html#post44564481 Panasonic has strong opinions about its proprietary colour grading tech . There is a way though for TV's at least if certain fpga's are used - players don't get these upmarket programmable chips as a rule ... http://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-high-dynamic-range-hdr-wide-color-gamut-wcg/2476065-could-dolby-vision-firmware-upgrade.html#post45265705 as well as the good chance of earlier hdmi versions tvs for those generous ce's out there .. https://www.engadget.com/2017/02/25/dolby-vision-hdr-in-software/ The pana doesn't have the proprietary SOC ; HDR10+ May have a better chance being open standard ? https://hdguru.com/dolby-vision-ultra-hd-blu-ray-support-awaits-mediatek-soc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, cwt said: If only Everything Ive read says a dolby vision chip would be required , The ground keeps moving with this xx unfortunately http://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-high-dynamic-range-hdr-wide-color-gamut-wcg/2476065-could-dolby-vision-firmware-upgrade.html#post44564481 Panasonic has strong opinions about its proprietary colour grading tech . There is a way though for TV's at least if certain fpga's are used - players don't get these upmarket programmable chips as a rule ... http://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-high-dynamic-range-hdr-wide-color-gamut-wcg/2476065-could-dolby-vision-firmware-upgrade.html#post45265705 as well as the good chance of earlier hdmi versions tvs for those generous ce's out there .. https://www.engadget.com/2017/02/25/dolby-vision-hdr-in-software/ The pana doesn't have the proprietary SOC ; HDR10+ May have a better chance being open standard ? https://hdguru.com/dolby-vision-ultra-hd-blu-ray-support-awaits-mediatek-soc/ My recollection was that the software solution was potentially viable for players as well as TVs - will try to find a link. Edit - Here's the Forbes article - make of it what you will. Edited May 31, 2017 by Quark Link inserted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwt Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 38 minutes ago, Quark said: My recollection was that the software solution was potentially viable for players as well as TVs - will try to find a link. Edit - Here's the Forbes article - make of it what you will. Yes Rob ; that's a bit more definite than the bit in my link ; https://www.engadget.com/2017/02/25/dolby-vision-hdr-in-software/ ;"'Dolby tells Forbes that Vision is now available in pure software form, enabling its take on HDR for any reasonably capable device. In theory, your console, media hub or TV can get Vision support through an update.'" Media hub could mean anything .. Hopefully any software emulation will be close to what a dedicated chipset can achieve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdoot Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 JB Hifi is selling the UB900 for $498 at the moment. Is that as good a price as it looks on first glance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Spyne~ Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 1 hour ago, kdoot said: JB Hifi is selling the UB900 for $498 at the moment. Is that as good a price as it looks on first glance? It's a good price right now. Consider however, that it was released with an $899rrp, then almost immediately dropped to $798 in stores, then $648 and then $598 in March, now $498 in May. I suspect Panasonic is not selling very many at all and are dropping the price furiously to break into the market. I would guess this is a similar story for all UHD players out there at the moment. Sammy and LG are doing the same thing (LG's unit has only been out a very short time and already $120 off initial rrp - Samsung's player was initially $599rrp and now sits a hair under $300 in 'Big Yellow' and a few other stores). Of course, Oppo will not get involved in a price war. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted June 13, 2017 Author Share Posted June 13, 2017 Grab while can as my understanding a limited pana backed promotion. And then likky back up again. 600 or so is not unusual to find this at. . At best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interweb66 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) Any word on if we will get the Amazon app in Australia? Edited June 21, 2017 by interweb66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, interweb66 said: Any word on if we will get the Amazon app in Australia? Doubt we'll get the app unless Amazon launches in Australia - haven't seen anything indicating they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interweb66 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Quark said: Doubt we'll get the app unless Amazon launches in Australia - haven't seen anything indicating they will. Amazon prime video launched here in December last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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