Well since collecting vinyl is so bloody addictive I was getting more and more box sets.....which take up a LOT of room.

 

Hence yet another change to The Death Star.

 

Beautiful hand made shelf by Kithe Furniture in Victoria. Highly recommended. 

 

https://kithe.com.au/products/

 

 

 

There are rooms and there are ROOMS.

 

This is a room inside a house in SA.

 

Designed by the owner.

 

Insane experience!

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, darthlaker said:

There are rooms and there are ROOMS.

 

This is a room inside a house in SA.

 

Designed by the owner.

 

Insane experience!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No windows, no thanks  😆

Just now, metal beat said:

 

 

No windows, no thanks  😆

 

LOL!

 

Yes, there are windows - and a fire escape! See the doors either side down the front of the side walls....

 

 

3 minutes ago, darthlaker said:

 

LOL!

 

Yes, there are windows - and a fire escape! See the doors either side down the front of the side walls....

 

 

 

 

I can see the two doors, but no windows.   just dark walls with no natural light and a hell a lot of lights.

Edited March 6, 20251 yr by metal beat

3 minutes ago, metal beat said:

 

 

I can see the two doors, but no windows.   just dark walls with no natural light and a hell a lot of lights.

 

The doors open to reveal the windows....

 

 

Quick question.  Why are those speakers (looks like VAF floorstanders), up on those stands?

9 minutes ago, Kinsella said:

Quick question.  Why are those speakers (looks like VAF floorstanders), up on those stands?

Not my room of course but the owner did this as he prefers the sound with the stands. He also has modified the cross overs etc. to his taste. 

The screen probably doesn't fill to the screen edges, hence the possible speaker location.

 

I understand completely (if that is the error).  Getting the projector position is difficult.

 

Also, it is incredibly difficult to get a big home theatre right.  Very easy to identify what they got 'wrong', never as easy to identify why that was the best solution, and never considered is ow many things they got right.

 

Theatres are so challenging.  It is not just a sweet spot, but multiple seats in multiple rows, all with different room mode impacts.  This looks like an unbelievable system

 

Benje

1 minute ago, Benje said:

The screen probably doesn't fill to the screen edges, hence the possible speaker location.

 

I understand completely (if that is the error).  Getting the projector position is difficult.

 

Also, it is incredibly difficult to get a big home theatre right.  Very easy to identify what they got 'wrong', never as easy to identify why that was the best solution, and never considered is ow many things they got right.

 

Theatres are so challenging.  It is not just a sweet spot, but multiple seats in multiple rows, all with different room mode impacts.  This looks like an unbelievable system

 

Benje

 

Screen not installed yet.

 

Yes, not easy...... 2 channel easier!    

 

 

absolutely.

 

bigger room, people sitting wider than the listening position, so side wall impact.

more than one row, so different longitudinal impact.

those on second row are on a riser, so different vertical impact from sound.

 

plus line of sight. front row vs second row with a riser.

 

Then bass signals.

 

A theatre is fantastic but challenging.

Just think how easy it is to do a headphone setup with a 2-channel setup with a single key listening position.  Big jump.  Room acoustics and room architecture is a huge issue

 

 

Edited March 6, 20251 yr by Benje

2 hours ago, darthlaker said:

Not my room of course but the owner did this as he prefers the sound with the stands. He also has modified the cross overs etc. to his taste. 

 

now that the owner is happy with the speaker position maybe they could get custom made cupboards/shelving unit installed across the front stage, with the LCR speakers sitting atop and equipment racked within.  Slightly unusual perhaps...but if it works it works 😎

Just now, Benje said:

absolutely.

 

bigger room, people sitting wider than the listening position, so side wall impact.

more than one row, so different longitudinal impact.

those on second row are on a riser, so different vertical impact from sound.

 

plus line of sight. front row vs second row with a riser.

 

Then bass signals.

 

A theatre is fantastic but challenging.

Just think how easy it is to do a headphone setup bs a 2-channel setup with a key listening position.  Big jump.  Room acoustics and room architecture is a huge issue

 

 

 

Yes, so many variables to consider.

 

Headache.

1 minute ago, 2Brix said:

 

now that the owner is happy with the speaker position maybe they could get custom made cupboards/shelving unit installed across the front stage, with the LCR speakers sitting atop and equipment racked within.  Slightly unusual perhaps...but if it works it works 😎

 

I think the owner is still "fiddling". 

 

Will it ever end?..... Does it ever end? 🙂

 

to quote ELO 'it's a living thing'.

 

It evolves and needs maintenance.  Maintenance never ends.  If you stop 'maintaining', you die.

7 minutes ago, Benje said:

to quote ELO 'it's a living thing'.

 

It evolves and needs maintenance.  Maintenance never ends.  If you stop 'maintaining', you die.

 

 

On 06/03/2025 at 6:20 PM, metal beat said:

 

 

No windows, no thanks  😆

good No light is best for listening as you have no visual distractions 

Finally got around to watching this doco.

 

Absolutely BRILLIANT.

 

Go and watch it. John Williams is a genius. Super genius at that.

 

 

Get the flock outta there!

 

 

Martin Logan Vantage(?) just for stereo music perhaps?

 

2 minutes ago, Grimmie said:

 

Get the flock outta there!

 

 

Martin Logan Vantage(?) just for stereo music perhaps?

 

Yea well some love options!! 🙂 

From a post today from Vandersteens Facebook page:

 

Every once in a while and old friend appears in a forum. Tom Thiel explains why time and phase correct speakers matter, and helps understand the connection with these speakers.

 

"tomthiel

1,706 posts

04-20-2025 at 08:35am

Andy2 and all -

 

I say that neither Jim nor Thiel Audio would espouse valuing ’"time coherence above other aspects of sound reproduction". Our company was built around addressing and honoring ALL aspects of sonic/signal/musical reproduction as a whole. Most designers - products minimize the importance of the time-phase aspects of fidelity, especially in the day that we did it. Only a handful of brands made time/phase behavior important - including Thiel, Vandersteen and Dunlavy and Quad, and possibly some smaller attempts.

Note our attention to time-phase was not above other aspects, but as one among several necessary ingredients for faithful representation of the musical signal.

Having paid attention to this stuff for half a century, my perspective is that keeping time-phase correct allows the ear-brain to pay attention to the playback signal as though it were real - thereby permitting a more holistic, immersive experience of the music. Although we rarely admit it, we humans do not possess unlimited brain-power. Work is required to reconstruct a musical signal that is missing its time domain content into an interpretation that makes sense. That effort subtracts from the state of consciousness that is possible when experiencing real music, either in its un-recorded state or its time-phase correct played back state.

Among the most frequent comments re Thiel/Van/Dun/Quad, etc. are ’naturalness’ and ’image density’. These are psychoacoustic attributes facilitated by the addition of phase-time correctness to the other realms of dynamic and tonal correctness.

I assess that designing for all of the musical aspects rather than discounting or fudging against the time-phase aspect requires an order of magnitude more effort. Everything becomes extremely more complex and difficult.

I can only afford a summary overview, the details took a career to address, and the work is still not finished."

So what is he trying to say 

Spot on stump. 😁