Sir Triode Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) I purchased the following Ultrasonic RCM from a guy in Poland off Ebay. It took forever to get here and I didn't touch it since I received it sometime in Sept of last year. Tonight I fired it up and cleaned a particular record in my collection that I know was very noisy and dirty. An Opshop copy of The Mission soundtrack. I ran it through this RCM and then through my Loricraft PR4. I must say that the results are astounding to me. While there is still noisy through the quiet passages of the LP, the previously prevalent clicks and pops have now abated (almost gone), the bass of the kettle drums on the tracks has also been unleashed. It now goes very low. You can do seven records at a time and it is much cheaper than getting an Audiodesk and KL audio unit. I paid only 180 Euros. A little elbow grease is required to get things done but I don't mind as I can get seven records done in one go as opposed to one record at a time with the Audiodesk and KL audio units. The seller now makes a PRO model for 350Euros but it seems to work the same as the basic one that I got. http://audiorevita.pl/ Be warned that it took 2 months for the unit to reach me through the post. Edited February 7, 2017 by Sir Triode 5
Luc Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 Nice Shannon! 7 lp's at once...WTG. After the first month of waiting were you feeling like a bit of a dill? Then at a month an a half you knew you were a dill and then at the end of two months it arrives and you absolutely knew you were a dill for thinking you were a dill.(Phew!) 3
scuzzii Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 I've looked at his YouTube videos and will pull the trigger on one of these soon. I know someone else who has one and similar findings to what you've posted.Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk 2
Sir Triode Posted February 7, 2017 Author Posted February 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, Luc said: Nice Shannon! 7 lp's at once...WTG. After the first month of waiting were you feeling like a bit of a dill? Then at a month an a half you knew you were a dill and then at the end of two months it arrives and you absolutely knew you were a dill for thinking you were a dill.(Phew!) Thankfully, I paid with Paypal. So I was safe.
Sir Triode Posted February 7, 2017 Author Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, scuzzii said: I've looked at his YouTube videos and will pull the trigger on one of these soon. I know someone else who has one and similar findings to what you've posted. Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Yes, someone had one on sale in the SNA classifieds a few months ago. It really should be used in concert with another type of RCM like the Keith Monks/Loricraft or the many vacuum type RCMS available. Edited February 7, 2017 by Sir Triode
Full Range Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 Upon reading the info The basic cleaner has NO heating , fluid filter , drying The Pro cleaner has heating ect and all automatic 1
Sir Triode Posted February 7, 2017 Author Posted February 7, 2017 Just now, Full Range said: Upon reading the info The basic cleaner has NO heating , fluid filter , drying The Pro cleaner has heating ect and all automatic I see. I think the drying is still manual though from the video he posted on Youtube.
Full Range Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 From what I have read over time Heated cleaning fluid is essential for a superior clean But you could be right about the drying stage 1
Sir Triode Posted February 7, 2017 Author Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Full Range said: From what I have read over time Heated cleaning fluid is essential for a superior clean But you could be right about the drying stage yes, in the manual for my RCM, it states that it works better if the cleaning solution is heated. I guess, I could get one of those heating elements. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Portable-Travel-Stainless-steel-Hot-water-Heater-Boiling-Element-Immersion-New/301325777292?_trksid=p2141725.c100338.m3726&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150313114020%26meid%3Db5e73ebddd3142e8b6b200b287335aaa%26pid%3D100338%26rk%3D11%26rkt%3D30%26sd%3D291720074448 Edited February 7, 2017 by Sir Triode
Sir Triode Posted February 7, 2017 Author Posted February 7, 2017 I'm now listening to another Opshop find - Bruce Hornsby and The Range 'The Way it Is' which I picked up 10 years ago for $1. It too suffered from clicks and pops but wasn't particularly noisy. After once through the US RCM and my Loricraft PR4. Clean and clear - and the bass is lower and tighter. Simply amazing. 4
mloutfie Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 43 minutes ago, Sir Triode said: Yes, someone had one on sale in the SNA classifieds a few months ago. It really should be used in concert with another type of RCM like the Keith Monks/Loricraft or the many vacuum type RCMS available. I've got a friend that says exactly the same. Might be worth nothing for those who doesn't have a vacuum RCM and want to try ultrsonic 1
EV Cali Posted February 7, 2017 Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) IMO This a great option at $250, if you do not want to make up a frame to sit over a Ultrasonic bath yourself and are happy to wait the two months for delivery. If concerned about the water not being hot, just heat it up in a kettle or saucepan before you start. You can though get the better bath that he uses for the delux $490 model ,plus all the parts including the motor and put it together your self for less than $250. Others on this site have come up with other DIY alternatives but if you are not in to DIY the one from Poland is hard to beat. If the one from Poland had been around when I made mine I may have thought twice about it. Edited February 7, 2017 by EV Cali 1
PKay Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 3 hours ago, EV Cali said: IMO This a great option at $250, if you do not want to make up a frame to sit over a Ultrasonic bath yourself and are happy to wait the two months for delivery. If concerned about the water not being hot, just heat it up in a kettle or saucepan before you start. You can though get the better bath that he uses for the delux $490 model ,plus all the parts including the motor and put it together your self for less than $250. Others on this site have come up with other DIY alternatives but if you are not in to DIY the one from Poland is hard to beat. If the one from Poland had been around when I made mine I may have thought twice about it. How many hours went into making yours including time going to shops?
EV Cali Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Nap250 said: How many hours went into making yours including time going to shops? The Ultrasonic bath and the rotisserie motor were purchased on line via ebay so no time. The Ikea cutting boards meant a trip to Ikea but I was going anyway. I spent quite a bit of time thinking about it and looking on the net at what others had done. Actually cutting the boards up and screwing them together took about 5 hours following the protocol of think twice cut once. I then realised it would be better lower in the bath so another couple of hours rejigging. Have just looked on line and the Baths appear to be about $40 cheaper now. at around $149 If I made a second one it would be quicker. Edited February 8, 2017 by EV Cali 1
scuzzii Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 16 hours ago, Sir Triode said: I purchased the following Ultrasonic RCM from a guy in Poland off Ebay. It took forever to get here and I didn't touch it since I received it sometime in Sept of last year. Tonight I fired it up and cleaned a particular record in my collection that I know was very noisy and dirty. An Opshop copy of The Mission soundtrack. I ran it through this RCM and then through my Loricraft PR4. I must say that the results are astounding to me. While there is still noisy through the quiet passages of the LP, the previously prevalent clicks and pops have now abated (almost gone), the bass of the kettle drums on the tracks has also been unleashed. It now goes very low. You can do seven records at a time and it is much cheaper than getting an Audiodesk and KL audio unit. I paid only 180 Euros. A little elbow grease is required to get things done but I don't mind as I can get seven records done in one go as opposed to one record at a time with the Audiodesk and KL audio units. The seller now makes a PRO model for 350Euros but it seems to work the same as the basic one that I got. http://audiorevita.pl/ Be warned that it took 2 months for the unit to reach me through the post. I've clicked on that link and it's in Polish - but from what I could make out there weren't any listed for sale in ebay
myskylab Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 send him a email he will reply and then he puts it on ebay.
Guest Hensa Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 17 hours ago, Sir Triode said: Be warned that it took 2 months for the unit to reach me through the post. He might have improved on his shipping as mine only took three weeks from ordering in November. Agree with your findings - a very good addition to the cleaning regime for the well-used vinyl!
Hergest Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) I wouldn't worry about spending extra for a heated ultrasonic bath. Run the bath for 10-15 minutes for de-gassing and the water will be plenty warm enough. Edited February 8, 2017 by Hergest 2
caminperth Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 I've purchased one of the basic units but haven't fired it up yet. Are you using any additives to go with the water? If so, where did you buy them from?
Guest Hensa Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 I've purchased one of the basic units but haven't fired it up yet. Are you using any additives to go with the water? If so, where did you buy them from? I use a mix of about 90% distilled water, 9% iso alchohol (99.9%) and 1% Kodak Photo-Flo. Seems to work well and after US clean, I dry on my rcm.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
scuzzii Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, myskylab said: send him a email he will reply and then he puts it on ebay. Ok - was a little unsure. Email sent for the advance model.
andyr Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Hergest said: I wouldn't worry about spending extra for a heated ultrasonic bath. Run the bath for 10-15 minutes for de-gassing and the water will be plenty warm enough. Sorry, H ... why does running the US bath for 10-15 minutes "de-gass" the liquid? The US process produces bubbles continuously! 32 minutes ago, caminperth said: I've purchased one of the basic units but haven't fired it up yet. Are you using any additives to go with the water? If so, where did you buy them from? "Water" is distilled water unless you are Jeromelang ... who prefers to use tap water. I use distilled water bought in 10l containers from AutoBarn. To that, AIUI, you generally add 5% of 99% IPA - which you can buy in 5l containers from Radio Parts. Plus 4ml of Ilford Ilfotrol - which you can buy from camera shops. Andy Edited February 8, 2017 by andyr 1
Sir Triode Posted February 8, 2017 Author Posted February 8, 2017 31 minutes ago, caminperth said: I've purchased one of the basic units but haven't fired it up yet. Are you using any additives to go with the water? If so, where did you buy them from? The maker has put the recipe in the manual and it is what Hensa posted. 1
Sir Triode Posted February 8, 2017 Author Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) BTW, I have informed the manufacturer of this thread and he is probably getting ready for the influx of Aussie orders. Edited February 8, 2017 by Sir Triode
scuzzii Posted February 8, 2017 Posted February 8, 2017 Just now, Sir Triode said: BTW, I have informed the manufacture of this thread and he is probably getting ready for the influx of Aussie orders. LOL - so did I..
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