MooneeBeach Posted March 19, 2016 Author Posted March 19, 2016 On 19/03/2016 at 9:17 AM, Steam said: You could just make an offer on this one http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Accuphase-C2110-/272167683748?hash=item3f5e7546a4:g:RXgAAOSwx-9WynrL Nice....bit still over budget. I'm thinking about buying a used model from Japan.
Steam Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 On 19/03/2016 at 9:28 AM, seaninbrisbane said: Nice....bit still over budget. I'm thinking about buying a used model from Japan. It's been there a while. A second hand Japanese unit could have problems and good luck getting it fixed. If it's interstate I am sure a Stereonet colleague will be happy to go around and check its ok for you. Make an offer. Don't ask don't get.........
MooneeBeach Posted March 19, 2016 Author Posted March 19, 2016 If I had the ready money I would; unfortunately, I've been buying other things! Maybe in a month or two.
Happydogs Posted March 19, 2016 Posted March 19, 2016 On 17/03/2016 at 10:17 AM, Class A Audio said: Voltage of Accuphase from PriceJapan can not be converted , those PSU are pure pure designed to Japanese market , that is why they are cheaper ! You need to pay for 5% import duty , 10% GST, shipping cost , without 5 years Australian warranty ... They are not good deals . Also, the prices in Australia is not expensive at all if you look around other places like US and Europe . Must be great being a accuphase dealer, the importer takes thier mark up and dictates you RRPYou pay your rent, staff, insurance, taxes and then accuphase allows a Japanese dealer to compete with you without the overheads Can't blame any one for being sick of paying the so called Australia tax, but you must get sick of this type of competition It's no wonder we have fewer and fewer good hifi stores
Midori Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 Have we ever considered that it is the manufacturer keeping their local units at lower price to protect their main Japanese market and not the foreign distributors price gorging? If this is the case, it is really unfair to be venting all the frustrations at the distributors and retailers. Certainly from my observations of all the Japanese products, they generally sell for much less in Japan than overseas.
betty boop Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 is any of this any different than with any other brands. we pay the price of living in this gorgeous country afar from rest of the world. of course any importer can do what they like with regards pricing. Ofcourse people will quote rrp. they have no obligation to discount. seriously... in buying cars I've been presented by two car dealers one mazda and one bmw both telling me they dont discount...and the rrp price is the price ....yeah right...walked out went bought something else some place else. many fish in the sea. if not happy with the price here buy overseas...not happy with a retailers service pricing policy whatever go buy some place else. not happy with a brand buy another brand ? if feel some organisation is doing something anti competitive or in breach of consumer law or something report them to the accc or the consumer protection. I dont get it quite frankly. all this thread was about from what I recall was about accuphase from japan and about voltage conversion. I dont get the whinge fest ! 1
metal beat Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 On 20/03/2016 at 12:43 AM, coeuslee said: Have we ever considered that it is the manufacturer keeping their local units at lower price to protect their main Japanese market and not the foreign distributors price gorging? If this is the case, it is really unfair to be venting all the frustrations at the distributors and retailers. Certainly from my observations of all the Japanese products, they generally sell for much less in Japan than overseas. It is no different to any locally made hifi component. It is always cheaper in local country unless its been artificially raised. Generally if a distributor is involved the price HAS to be higher than in the local country where its sold direct to retailers, unless they are distributors and retailers at the same time like Pure Music who have parity pricing ion their products they import. The real question is how much higher 2
alistairm Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 Japanese gear, in particular, is relatively cheap at the moment (or should be). Since mid-2011 the AUD is down roughly 35% against the US, roughly 10% against the Euro, but steady or at times quite a bit up against the Yen. http://www.exfin.com/historical-forex-aud
Guest Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 Al, We all know what the story is and why it is. You don't pay too much, I don't pay too much, and no one with half a clue does either. Its just the PITA of having to occasionally jump through the hoops. Whether the current distribution model will exist in 20 years is unlikely. But who knows. I wouldn't even bother calling the Accuphase guy in WA. Were I in the market for Accuphase I'd just buy from Japan. Imagine if the local muppet you called asked me to make an offer when I (like you) had taken the time from my day to ring and politely ask for a price? On the plus side I would finally get to use those 4 letter adjectives and nouns I have been storing up for a rainy day. 2
MusicOne Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 The question we all have to ask is this...is Accuphase really so good that it can screw as many customers as it likes and still find more sheep to buy its products? Look elsewhere. This amp would give any Accuphase amp a run for its money and you would probably come out of the deal with quite a bit of moolah left: http://www.musicalfidelity.com/products/nu-vista/nu-vista-800 1
TP1 Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 On 20/03/2016 at 5:49 AM, MusicOne said: The question we all have to ask is this...is Accuphase really so good that it can screw as many customers as it likes and still find more sheep to buy its products? Look elsewhere. This amp would give any Accuphase amp a run for its money and you would probably come out of the deal with quite a bit of moolah left: http://www.musicalfidelity.com/products/nu-vista/nu-vista-800 Been there , done that , No thanks! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1
betty boop Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 On 28/03/2016 at 10:11 PM, Tasso said: Been there , done that , No thanks! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk been there done that with a nu-vista 800 ? do tell in the nu vista thread if dont want to derail this one http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php/topic/71089-musical-fidelity-nu-vista-800-integrated/page-1#entry1191938 2
Triphan Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 Hi Sean!! Im Tri from Sydney.! Did you already bought the C2110? I'm got the same one for sale on eBay. That Australia version and still have 3 years warranty on the unit. If you interest let me know. Thank you!!
AccMagi7s Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 On 03/03/2016 at 7:09 PM, alistairm said: I had a DC37 land yesterday. As a staunch supporter of local hifi retailers I have no problem paying a hefty mark up in recognition that everyone needs to make a decent profit to keep the industry going. Especially once you factor in GST, customs, risk and potential problems with lack of local support, 20-30% mark ups start to seem quite reasonable. Unfortunately, my experience with Accuphase is that buying locally (if they will even give you a price at all) involves at least a 100% mark up on landing one from PriceJapan, who are friendly and easy to deal with. So unless you have a 1 in 2 defect rate (not likely with Accuphase), importing is the way to go at the moment. I thought I should share my own experience with DC-37 bought from Japan! Recently the DC-37 went faulty on the USB-input. The cause remains unknown! PriceJapan had been unresponsive and I was also lead to believe from a very close audio friend, his recent order from Price Japan went lemon. He lost his entire payment/transaction without the goods is sent nor a response was received from PJ. Furthermore, Accuphase does not support grey import nor service the unit from a grey import. This is clearly informed via their official Web-Site. With on going frustrations/stresses from getting it's to resolve, and failed. I finally bought the recent model, Accuphase DC-950, here locally from the Australian Distributor/Dealer. Pierre was very nice to deal with, when the purchase intention is genuine! Yes the price might be a little more from the grey import but it rests assured you can sleep at night should your Accuphase goes wrong. My Accuphase DC-950 should be here in a week. Many thanks to Pierre from Revolution Turntable! There are currently two Accuphase DC-950 in Perth. 2
TP1 Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 While Pricejapan may have done the right thing in the past, they have now gone bad and taken people's money with them. From all reports , they haven't responded for months . Whatever the reason for this, best not to deal with them. http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Price_Japan 3
Steam Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 On 22/09/2016 at 2:01 PM, Chanh said: I thought I should share my own experience with DC-37 bought from Japan! Recently the DC-37 went faulty on the USB-input. The cause remains unknown! PriceJapan had been unresponsive and I was also lead to believe from a very close audio friend, his recent order from Price Japan went lemon. He lost his entire payment/transaction without the goods is sent nor a response was received from PJ. Furthermore, Accuphase does not support grey import nor service the unit from a grey import. This is clearly informed via their official Web-Site. With on going frustrations/stresses from getting it's to resolve, and failed. I finally bought the recent model, Accuphase DC-950, here locally from the Australian Distributor/Dealer. Pierre was very nice to deal with, when the purchase intention is genuine! Yes the price might be a little more from the grey import but it rests assured you can sleep at night should your Accuphase goes wrong. My Accuphase DC-950 should be here in a week. Many thanks to Pierre from Revolution Turntable! There are currently two Accuphase DC-950 in Perth. Expand So what happened to the DC37? Is it now a paper weight?
AccMagi7s Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 On 23/09/2016 at 7:23 AM, Steam said: So what happened to the DC37? Is it now a paper weight? It is still a broken unit (USB only). All others' input are still working as should. Still usable via HS-Link, Coaxial, and optical. Sounds still amazing though! Unfortunately DC-950 sounded better, and with all the headaches at hands with DC-37, I placed the order locally in hope to move on.... Edit: I placed the order for DC-950 after audition a combo of DP-950 and DC-950 at a very close audio friend's.
PKay Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 On 23/09/2016 at 7:55 AM, Chanh said: It is still a broken unit (USB only). All others' input are still working as should. Still usable via HS-Link, Coaxial, and optical. Sounds still amazing though! Unfortunately DC-950 sounded better, and with all the headaches at hands with DC-37, I placed the order locally in hope to move on.... Edit: I placed the order for DC-950 after audition a combo of DP-950 and DC-950 at a very close audio friend's. Expand Lucikly for you they sent the dac before going broke. At least you have a few more inputs that work. I did look at them some time ago before deciding to stay with my current DAC.
Steam Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 On 23/09/2016 at 7:55 AM, Chanh said: It is still a broken unit (USB only). All others' input are still working as should. Still usable via HS-Link, Coaxial, and optical. Sounds still amazing though! Unfortunately DC-950 sounded better, and with all the headaches at hands with DC-37, I placed the order locally in hope to move on.... Edit: I placed the order for DC-950 after audition a combo of DP-950 and DC-950 at a very close audio friend's. Expand I don't use USB so if it shows up in the classified's i would certainly look hard at it. I can't justify it already having a perfectly good DAC. But one always NEEDs an Accuphase DAC. 1
AudioGeek Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Thats bad luck Chanh, but good to see you have moved on. I would have thought this would be the perfect opportunity for a man of your skill to pull it apart and rebuild it. Is the usb input intergrated on the main board? Edited September 23, 2016 by AudioGeek
alistairm Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 Bugger! Hope the USB can be fixed. Thanks for for the info on PriceJapan. I'll edit my earlier post to include a warning. Glad you've had a good experience with the local dealer. Believe me, I tried to buy from them, but they obviously didn't take my inquiry seriously. Their loss.
Telecine Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 On 22/09/2016 at 2:01 PM, Chanh said: I thought I should share my own experience with DC-37 bought from Japan! Recently the DC-37 went faulty on the USB-input. The cause remains unknown! PriceJapan had been unresponsive and I was also lead to believe from a very close audio friend, his recent order from Price Japan went lemon. He lost his entire payment/transaction without the goods is sent nor a response was received from PJ. Furthermore, Accuphase does not support grey import nor service the unit from a grey import. This is clearly informed via their official Web-Site. With on going frustrations/stresses from getting it's to resolve, and failed. I finally bought the recent model, Accuphase DC-950, here locally from the Australian Distributor/Dealer. Pierre was very nice to deal with, when the purchase intention is genuine! Yes the price might be a little more from the grey import but it rests assured you can sleep at night should your Accuphase goes wrong. My Accuphase DC-950 should be here in a week. Many thanks to Pierre from Revolution Turntable! There are currently two Accuphase DC-950 in Perth. Expand So is Pierre going to get your DC-37 repaired?
Rob181 Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) I would have made that a condition of sale..."I'll buy this if you fix that"... Edited September 23, 2016 by Rob181 1
AccMagi7s Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 DC-37 remains broken for the USB only. Nothing the local distributor can do about grey imported goods, this applied to all brands not just Accuphase. Which is understandable. My recent purchase "Accuphase DC-950" was simply SQ! If you think DC-37 was an excellent DAC, your not wrong there, DC-950 is marginally better in every attribute, hence I could not help myself but poke out $25k for the unit! Sad isn't it? It was a mistake listening to it! [emoji20]
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