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On the grog!

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Cambrian Rock nice but 4 years is as far as it will go either newish vines or a bit much water applied up on the Murray beyond Rutherglen.

Highly unlikely o be new plantings of Cabernet so new or thin merlot fine for Friday night and home made lasagne for 1.

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Another Durif night for me, bought a bottle of this last w/e and really enjoyed it, huge burst of berry and tobacco notes and is a robust easy drinker so another was bought tonight.

Got the fire roaring, the vinyl bealting and a bottle all to myself so I'm all good for tonight!

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Hey @@Luc, does this one pass muster (pun intended)? You've expressed your liking for Durif previously so, having spotted this at Dan's today I thought I'd just ask.

I use to drink a sparkling Morris Durif. Expensive but extra nice. Not sure you can still get it.

I use to drink a sparkling Morris Durif. Expensive but extra nice. Not sure you can still get it.

 

Sparkling Morris Dancers? No thanks.

 

Am I allowed to post in "on the grog" if I've spent a week off the grog?

 

 

Why not @djb> I haven't had a drink for eight years.

 

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Haha. It's a well known favourite amongst many SNAer's, @@djb @@caddisgeek @@evil c @buddeyev   It's the go to durif !

 

And on a serious note, it blows some Rutherglen  expensive durif's away. Griffith isn't a durif grape area, NE Victoria Rutherglen is the traditional home for it and respected names like Cambells,Morris, All Saints, Stanten&Killeen, Pfiffer all got a bit worried when durif grape harvests started to be shipped out to places like Griffith and Mornington Penninsula and then bottles of non-Rutherglen durif started turning up at wine shows and winning...

 

I'm not a fan of blends and sadly, at Dan's all you can get is this DeBortoli straight durif or Cambells Shiraz Durif blend and the same with Morris's. Thier straight durifs aren't there and Morris's was always a go to durif through the 70's and 80's and Stanten&Killen was always yum.

 

 

More info than you needed I think.

 

It's on the cusp of not enough information, as it happens @@Luc. I never encountered Durif in my drinking years so I am left wondering what it tastes like. How would you categorize it? Rich and robust like, and here I generalise profoundly, a Cab Sav or a Shiraz, or a bit light weight like a Grenache, or even a lacklustre Merlot?

Sparkling Morris Dancers? No thanks.

 

 

Why not @djb> I haven't had a drink for eight years.

 

 

It's on the cusp of not enough information, as it happens @@Luc. I never encountered Durif in my drinking years so I am left wondering what it tastes like. How would you categorize it? Rich and robust like, and here I generalise profoundly, a Cab Sav or a Shiraz, or a bit light weight like a Grenache, or even a lacklustre Merlot?

It's good too see there are a number of sparkling reds these days. In the 70s we use to add a little champagne to a red. It had a name which has slips me. It got where you didn't want to go real quick. The sparkling Durif was extremely nice. One local wine shop use to keep two bottles on the shelf just for me. Now that's service.

Sparkling Morris Dancers? No thanks.

 

 

Why not @djb> I haven't had a drink for eight years.

 

 

It's on the cusp of not enough information, as it happens @@Luc. I never encountered Durif in my drinking years so I am left wondering what it tastes like. How would you categorize it? Rich and robust like, and here I generalise profoundly, a Cab Sav or a Shiraz, or a bit light weight like a Grenache, or even a lacklustre Merlot?

 

 

Certainly not a lightweight Jack and if you could lay your hands on some of Mick Morris's late 80's Durifs you'd be in for a surprise (or maybe not) at how deep the character of this wine is enhanced(in some instances but not all) with some long term cellaring.

 

It's a big tannin-ey red but with a smoothness and a back palate presentation that I've always enjoyed and was very lucky to have been living in Yarrawonga/Mulwala in the late 70's when Rutherglen and it's wineries were a well kept secret and Durif was to found everywhere and few did it as well as Mick Morris who was a family friend of the Handbrake's family with several cases of the stuff arriving on the doorstep yearly as well as Morris's select port in a little wooden keg. Fresh roasted wild duck was a constant on the table and German Rieslings and Durif ruled the day.

On my way now listenin to Lummineers on record, needle drop becomes quite the challenge

Certainly not a lightweight Jack and if you could lay your hands on some of Mick Morris's late 80's Durifs you'd be in for a surprise (or maybe not) at how deep the character of this wine is enhanced(in some instances but not all) with some long term cellaring.

 

It's a big tannin-ey red but with a smoothness and a back palate presentation that I've always enjoyed and was very lucky to have been living in Yarrawonga/Mulwala in the late 70's when Rutherglen and it's wineries were a well kept secret and Durif was to found everywhere and few did it as well as Mick Morris who was a family friend of the Handbrake's family with several cases of the stuff arriving on the doorstep yearly as well as Morris's select port in a little wooden keg. Fresh roasted wild duck was a constant on the table and German Rieslings and Durif ruled the day.

 

Don't you just hate it when you missed out on the, "Those were the days", days?

Yes those super sugary German Whites.

Yes those super sugary German Whites.

 

 

Nah. These were Alsace Rieslings, the driest of the dry Kraut whites (imo) that I liked :).

 

My palate is somewhat knackered these days but I can still describe a forward, middle and back palate wine as such.

 

I'll have an Alsace Riesling any day...yum.

 

 

Actually I did :wub:  a Domaine Weinbach 2011 Schlossberg Grand Cru Riesling. Fancy name but a fantastic wine. I was lucky enough to score a couple of these from a fool from Sydney who I've been working for and I told her: Yes! I'll have them! When she offered me some wine in lieu of a beer :rolleyes: 

 

And yes I did point out that the wines are something she might want to review giving them to me. A quick google bought up a price point but...she was determined to make me either look foolish(not hard) for not accepting the offer or testing my knowledge.

I waved my fully charged ph and said while I'm in the loop...google is my friend and yes yes yes I realise this is a fantastic wine.

 

I got half cranky after this>> :angry: ( <<<cut him in half...) but , I took the proffered bottles home and there is one left now and I'm listening to the last track on the Cars Heartbeat City and I think the top needs to be popped on the other one.

 

 

Never expect me to reply in one sentence when a hundred will do...

 

 

  Alsatian wines are rather nice sometimes as are other regions whites when your feeling a bit smug about how good your Mornington/Clare/Eden/Margaret R/Stanthorpe(yes they do one up there) and many other taste, here in Oz. 

 

A quick trip to the north east regions of the Rhine and elsewhere will soon wake you up, even Napa valley whites will do that as will some of the obscure Chilean wines and a label with Patagonia is always a bit romantic don't you think?

Bruce Chatwin would approve I'm thinking :thumb:

Nah. These were Alsace Rieslings, the driest of the dry Kraut whites (imo) that I liked :).

 

My palate is somewhat knackered these days but I can still describe a forward, middle and back palate wine as such.

 

I'll have an Alsace Riesling any day...yum.

 

 

  a Domaine Weinbach 2011 Schlossberg Grand Cru Riesling. Fancy name but a fantastic wine. I was lucky enough to score a couple of these from a fool from Sydney who I've been working for a

 

I got half cranky after this>> :angry: ( <<<cut him in half...) but , I took the proffered bottles home and there is one left now and I'm listening to the last track on the Cars Heartbeat City and I think the top needs to be popped on the other one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let's not be too hasty @@Luc - need to have something to celebrate with the next time I'm up from bleak city - or perish the thought even if you venture down here you could hide it in a pair of your  billowy boxers  :D

Long time since I've had a half decent Riesling - missus seems to find all the offerings at Dans the taste equivalent of cats p!$$ so I avoid the variety as a rule  :(

Pewsey Vale is pretty good mate and no where near the cost of those Alsace wines.

 

 

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Riesling? Seppelt's Henty vineyard (Drumborg) works for me. 

I usually drink a cheap Sav. Blanc theses days. But I do remember the German ice wines. Late pick in icy cold conditions. I think frost had to be on the grape at pick.

The Alsatians, being French, possible take offence when called Krauts.

Riesling? Seppelt's Henty vineyard (Drumborg) works for me.

Recently I had a Riesling after not having one for about 10 years and rather enjoyed it. It was my parents drink of the day.

Recently I had a Riesling after not having one for about 10 years and rather enjoyed it. It was my parents drink of the day.

It's my favourite white grape as well. Luckily, there are some excellent Riesling in Australia. 

It's my favourite white grape as well. Luckily, there are some excellent Riesling in Australia. 

Agreed, a few good Semillon floating around too.

I live on the Mornigton Peninsula. There is some really great whites down here. Red not so hot (pun intended).

We're very lucky really to have the wine industry that we have and the myriad of choices on offer and it's always getting better and there's always something new to discover isn't there.

It's nice to drop an overseas bottle in every now and again though just to see what the difference is.

I tried some Spanish Shiraz the other evening and it was different to what I'm used too.

Hard to believe but I was drinking Californian reds while in Argentina! Cheap and extremely nice. But the Argentinian Reds were gorgeous too.

Heres my type of Red, Im very classy

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Had a Parkers Coonawarra Estate 2013 Shiraz, very surprising & lovely

Take two;

A fare price for a fare drink.

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Found this local beer at the BWS the other day on offer. From up the road to Freo. Very nice, very smooth...

 

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..with a slight hint of humour.

 

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