I hate breakfast.

I know you're sober and hungry right now, so I'll pretend you didn't say that

I know you're sober and hungry right now, so I'll pretend you didn't say that

Seriously, I very rarely eat before 12 noon. Unless I have ridden then it's a protein shake after the ride, but only coffee before.

Sorry I haven't posted much fellas. I have a real problem with the grog. I can go for months without touching it, but as soon as I start I really can't stop. Had about 5 days in a row up until I signed up where I was hiding it from the missus. I don't want to hide things from her, but just can't help it, it's an addiction as much as I don't want to admit it.

On Sunday I did a 27 km bike ride, had a 5 min break then did 5km run in 24 mins. Was really happy with that.

Had an rdo today, started of for a small run, ended up doing 10 km in 53 mins. Then took the dog down the beach. Was a great day.

Then ruined it by drinking and hiding from the missus again. There are lots of non alcoholic beers out, and some are quite good. Becks, Holsten, Clausthaler, Wienstephaner, etc etc

I try to hide my drinking by having them, just so I smell like beer. It shits me to tears when I do all the hard work and want to change, but struggle to do so.

Anyway well done everyone else, keep up the good work and keep posting. It helps everyone.

Cheers Dave.

Hi Pops

That's not good. You admit you have a problem but you cannot bring yourself to ask for assistance to overcome it. There isn't any shame in asking for help. You should go to your GP or AA as a 1st start. I think it is good that you were able to post here as in a small way you are publicly recognising your addiction and admitting you cannot fix it on your own. By all accounts it is a hard road and mentally you have to be ready to take the 1st st steps by asking for help. Good luck

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@@Pops110 I admire you for sharing, maybe do what I am doing and simply try to cut back gradually. Baby steps and all that. Maybe have a shelf in the fridge that you put your grog in of a morning, say you would usually have six, then put in 4 and when they are gone, that's that. Grabbing some hot ones will be the challenge but I believe you will be OK. Then, the week after, only put 3 in there and you have dropped your intake by 50%!! etc etc

Just my 2c.

Sorry I haven't posted much fellas. I have a real problem with the grog. I can go for months without touching it, but as soon as I start I really can't stop. Had about 5 days in a row up until I signed up where I was hiding it from the missus. I don't want to hide things from her, but just can't help it, it's an addiction as much as I don't want to admit it.

On Sunday I did a 27 km bike ride, had a 5 min break then did 5km run in 24 mins. Was really happy with that.

Had an rdo today, started of for a small run, ended up doing 10 km in 53 mins. Then took the dog down the beach. Was a great day.

Then ruined it by drinking and hiding from the missus again. There are lots of non alcoholic beers out, and some are quite good. Becks, Holsten, Clausthaler, Wienstephaner, etc etc

I try to hide my drinking by having them, just so I smell like beer. It shits me to tears when I do all the hard work and want to change, but struggle to do so.

Anyway well done everyone else, keep up the good work and keep posting. It helps everyone.

Cheers Dave.

Dave, you are on the way to recovery by admitting that there is a problem, and as someone has said you just need support/help......and need to reach out for it. From my experience it is always a struggle but with support it does get better, much better.....you just need help, and that is all part of being human

 

Reach out and maybe as said pop into an AA meeting, maybe a regular one on one with a professional in the D&A field also...........whatever works for you

 

Edit: Oh, yeah, the hiding it from the misses is a tricky thing, and maybe in a way self defeating...or it can be. So at some point you might need to reach out to her also....for her support and understanding. But talk to a counselor in the D&A field and get their professional opinions.

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@@Jake , knocking off the evening meal down to hardly anything may do you a lot better than fasting for day/s. Have a good breakfast morning tea and lunch though   keep up the energy.

 

They are now begining to think that fasting (under 500 calories 2 days a week) could be the best "diet" or life style change you can go on. This triggers bodily functions in a way that has worked for us for millions of years prior to modern life. A friend lost 5kgs last month trialling this. Like all changes it was hard initially but now she is taking it in her stride, she eats normally the other 5 days including cabs as she is of Italian heritage.

 

The body can do strange things. I remember watching a doco on stomach lapband surgery. They found that ALL patients who were type 2 diabetic were no longer diabetic when waking from the surgery! They didn't know why at that stage and probably still don't.

I'm much like Jake that I can relatively easily stop. I just don't seem to have the will power to make it permanent, and my resolve fades over time.

 

I want to have a few drinks on my birthday (nice dinner somewhere) but I'm concerned it will just open the floodgtes again. I'm not a heavy drinker but drink a bit too much a bit too often to the point where I don't train enough and my fitness and weight suffers.

 

Hang in there Pops, my wife was previously married to a really bad alcoholic so I don't discussmy drinking much with her except when I tell her I'm going on "the wagon". I used supporting Darren as a bit of an excuse to be honest.

And it's very much appreciated!!

They are now begining to think that fasting (under 500 calories 2 days a week) could be the best "diet" or life style change you can go on. This triggers bodily functions in a way that has worked for us for millions of years prior to modern life. A friend lost 5kgs last month trialling this. Like all changes it was hard initially but now she is taking it in her stride, she eats normally the other 5 days including cabs as she is of Italian heritage.

 

The body can do strange things. I remember watching a doco on stomach lapband surgery. They found that ALL patients who were type 2 diabetic were no longer diabetic when waking from the surgery! They didn't know why at that stage and probably still don't.

 

 

That's the 5.2 diet your talking about there, Michael Mosley's baby.  Anyone reading this and wanting to know more>>>Click

The thing to remember in all this is that giving up anything or exorcising a bad habit is only possible and achievable when the thing becomes an issue.

 

Once it does so and attains that status, you can then work towards achieving the goal, but I can tell you from hard fought and very recent experience that it has to be front and centre in one's thoughts.

 

In my case I knew what I had to do and what I wanted to do. I had no idea how to achieve it and lose over 50KG, except to just say no to food and previously, alcohol. I had some inspiration from a very dear friend who I have not seen for many years, but every time I felt like the train was about to be de-railed, I asked myself if I would be happy for my loved one to see me as I was and would become some years ahead OR as I was going to be from now on.

 

I have never spoken of this before since it is very private but this was somewhat like a higher power motivational factor, which is not religious, but is similar to what is used by AA, the difference being I did it on my own and in private, but with many meditation type episodes of self realisation.

 

It involved reaching further inside myself than I have ever done in my life and now that it is ( mainly ) accomplished, I feel a sense of empowerment to do and achieve things that a year ago I would never have dreamed of, so the weight loss issue segued into far wider horizons.

@@Pops110 I too have been through the hiding alcohol thing. In the end I was just cheating myself but at the time I seemed to rationalise it somehow. For me to limit intake I need to stop completely. There is no moderation with me, although I was never drunk, just a daily drinker, which as Blybo said, affected my training, my sleep, my weight etc.

The hardest thing you have done is to come out here and tell us about it. Giving up the booze should be easier. Let us know how you go.

Awesome story and outlook @@rantan.

@@blybo , you know better than me but a few drinks on your birthday wouldn't kill you, so long as it stops the day after your birthday.

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Awesome story and outlook @@rantan.

@@blybo , you know better than me but a few drinks on your birthday wouldn't kill you, so long as it stops the day after your birthday.

 

 

Thanks Darren.

 

You have actually helped me a lot by starting this thread, because I can see what you and others are doing, which also helps me in my next phase which is maintaining my achievements and leaving that stuff behind.

 

One simple things which can help that I used was a piece of music actually. It was Van Morrison's song "what's wrong with this picture?" where he tells of a picture of himself on the wall as he looks at it. it concludes by him saying "why don't we just take that down, 'cos that ain't me at all "

 

To all you good people here, have a listen to that song as you start to succeed, play it often and when you get there........... play it loud

Well I could do with a FRIKKEN BIG KING BROWN NOW  don't worry!!!!!!

 

Ahem.

 

Time for a lovely mineral water.

 

Make tea.

 

Ironing

 

QI-Mad as hell etc.

Well I could do with a FRIKKEN BIG KING BROWN NOW  don't worry!!!!!!

 

Ahem.

 

Time for a lovely mineral water.

 

Make tea.

 

Ironing

 

QI-Mad as hell etc.

:blink:

 

Err........OK

 

 

That would keep me out of the fridge.

 

King Brown. Longneck. Tallie. etc

Today the healthy eating returns!

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STG this morning, lovely and cool and by the light of the setting full moon.

STG this morning, lovely and cool and by the light of the setting full moon.

 

I slept through my alarm this morning. Have brought my headphones to work for a lunch hour walk. We have just received a consignment so I'll be pretty active at work anyway. Salad and fruit brought to work so no excuses.

I find it pretty easy to be off the booze. Once I make the decision then it's just like flicking a light switch. So not a drop for me since signing up here. I have also started fasting 1 day a week. I tried two days running but I completely ran out of energy on the 2nd day and had many family duties so had to eat something.

Still, 5.2kg lost in Feb is great. Admittedly I started the fasting before the alcohol abstinence so had a head start on you guys.

I intend to lose another 5 and get down to 82! Guess I won't be drinking till then.

 

I've found the (5+2) fasting gets easier over time, personally I find the first evening the toughest, but the second day a breeze and generally feel great all day, I can usually even get in a decent ride on the second day (no doubt you've seen my ramadan day references on strava?). A few cups of tea and a lie-down generally seems to help with the hunger stick with it, it gets easier. I tried the 8-hour eating window fast for a few weeks, but found I got much better results and feel a lot better after the 5+2 cycle. I also keep my cals way under the 500 recommended above, closer to 2-300, usually just a low-cal protein bar or two, lots of water.

Edited March 4, 201511 yr by damohpi

I tried the 5.2 diet a few months ago..... Got to about 10am on the first day and couldn't take it any longer - I was starving and caved in. I'll give it another go now I think.

I've been off the frog for about 3 weeks now and the weight remains the same despite walking the 7km home from work a few times a week. I'm primarily doing this no-drinking thing to shift a few kg so if it's not having an effect, i might fall off the wagon then.....

it must be your food intake @@943

 

Try myfitnesspal.com

I learned years ago that the less you eat the better you feel. I know that intrinsically but I find it bloody hard to live by. Why is that, I don't have the answers. I guess I love food

Nothing wrong with loving food!