@@wolster thanks for that.

Well, I went for my two rationed beers yestie arvo which turned into four, so no more for me this weekend!

Will do house/garden stuff today and maybe some weights/chin ups/meditation this arvo, might also look at shifting the ceiling diffusers as am thinking (as per a members comment many moons ago) they could be better situated.

Edited March 1, 201511 yr by Darren69

I started drinking sparkling mineral water with wine a few years back (as in a glass of water and a glass of red wine).  Regular wine buddies were 'huh??'.  Now its what we all do.  Stick with it mate - habits form.

Keep busy, change. We all are creatures of habit so change is difficult. Am a big believer of "mind over matter" but this comes with practice, persistence and patients.

Regards

Matt 

I have my mineral water in the fridge.

Well shall have dinner and weight myself, the same as I did last sunday night.

Edit- done, 97kg, down 2 kg from last week.

Edited March 1, 201511 yr by Darren69

Wow, woke up this morning feeling great, jumped out of bed at 5, went on the STG walk (smash the gut), am running approx. 25% of it now, I reckon. Feel good. Am thinking will stick with a 6 pack plan for now, 3 Friday night, three sat night and that's it. Will see how much weight goes by doing that and using myfitnesspal to watch kilojoules.

It usually takes me an hour to do the walk (hilly, out here at Waterview Heights) but today it took 50 mins.

Back on the wagon today after a relatively successful w/e. Went through 3/4 bottle of scotch in 3 days which is pretty good for me. Failed miserably on the measurement part though so need to work on that.

Back on the wagon today after a relatively successful w/e. Went through 3/4 bottle of scotch in 3 days which is pretty good for me. Failed miserably on the measurement part though so need to work on that.

 

You need a time delay safe . But congrats on the minimization of your usual intake.

 

Still going strong here, but eating more at night as the body is used to the evening sugar hit. Was pleased I found motivation to go for a ride yesterday arvo. Went to Foo'ies on Saturday night so slept in... and it was pouring down when I woke anyway. Usually if I don't ride before the day "gets going" it will not happen at all.

 

Forgot to weigh myself this morning, will do so tomorrow.

Edited March 1, 201511 yr by blybo

I would imagine the snacking would still be less Kj than the booze.

I would imagine the snacking would still be less Kj than the booze.

 

Last night it was. 

 

Had a fruitless hot cross bun (wife is fructose intolerant) after dinner and 2 slices of wholemeal bread with peanut butter just before bed. Oh and a 1.25l bottle of mineral water with half strength low joule cordial. Didn't put that into MFP but suspect its around 500 calories so probably equivalent to 2.5 stubbies.

 

I must admit to a craving when riding home around 5.30 last night but made up my cordial instead. 2 sports drinks in 1hr 45min of semi hard ride time was probably calorie neutral

Last night it was.

Had a fruitless hot cross bun (wife is fructose intolerant) after dinner and 2 slices of wholemeal bread with peanut butter just before bed. Oh and a 1.25l bottle of mineral water with half strength low joule cordial. Didn't put that into MFP but suspect its around 500 calories so probably equivalent to 2.5 stubbies.

I must admit to a craving when riding home around 5.30 last night but made up my cordial instead. 2 sports drinks in 1hr 45min of semi hard ride time was probably calorie neutral

That depends on what you call a "sport drink".

My sport drink is water as is my non beer drink

That depends on what you call a "sport drink".

 

1x600ml Powerade and 1x700ml bidon of Hi-Five 4:1 Carb/protein powder.

 

Google tells me Powerade is 188 calories per 600ml and the High 5 4:1 is 177 per satchel. My ride according to Strava used 1375 calories, I highly doubt that but I should of only had 1 sports drink anyway. 2nd fill should of just been water but I was waiting for mates at a 7eleven and temptation for flavour won out.

So long as it goes into myfitnesspal.

So long as it goes into myfitnesspal.

 

Meh,

 

I used MFP for a couple of months before Christmas. I know where my "issues" lie, and for me its the savoury or carb laden treats of an evening, if I stick to my guns my daily intake is around 1300-1400 which they say is too low. I eat a bit more on weekends from "grazing" at home or when riding as your body tells you what you need.

Edited March 2, 201511 yr by blybo

Meh,

 

I used MFP for a couple of months before Christmas. I know where my "issues" lie, and for me its the savoury or carb laden treats of an evening, if I stick to my guns my daily intake is around 1300-1400 which they say is too low. I eat a bit more on weekends from "grazing" at home or when riding as your body tells you what you need.

 

Now we had run out of salad contents at home so I have to buy lunch today... and I'm in the shop by myself unexpectedly. Means quickly ducking into the nearest shop which is either a charcoal chicken shop or a pie shop... at least I had a healthy breakfast :ph34r:

Edited March 2, 201511 yr by blybo

1x600ml Powerade and 1x700ml bidon of Hi-Five 4:1 Carb/protein powder.

 

Google tells me Powerade is 188 calories per 600ml and the High 5 4:1 is 177 per satchel. My ride according to Strava used 1375 calories, I highly doubt that but I should of only had 1 sports drink anyway. 2nd fill should of just been water but I was waiting for mates at a 7eleven and temptation for flavour won out.

 

@blybo 

 

apart from the artificial sweetened drinks I mentioned earlier, the other thing to stay from is energy drinks. working for a large global beverage firm they pulled all their energy drinks and artificially sweetened drinks off the market, sold off brands they were involved with etc following quite  bit of research done on the effects on the body and the range of health issues. energy drinks, the bulk of them, are packed with sugars and acids which isn't great for your teeth for starters causing them to be literally eaten alive.

 

apart from that, as I mentioned earlier rob de costello suggesting for a marathon all you need is a couple of lightly spread jam toasts and a cup of tea. most of us aren't doing marathons so the main thing we need while exercising is really hydration which plain water is just fine for.

 

depends what trying to do I guess...whether its build muscle and bulk and strength as athletes often are or loose weight. if loosing weight I'd stay away from the energy drinks...but then the app is probably telling you that too am guessing

A bit like my weekend six pack, it's all a balance innit?

 

I am loving myfitnesspal, I can plan ahead and still have the occasional naughty thing without blowing the Kj's.

@blybo 

 

apart from the artificial sweetened drinks I mentioned earlier, the other thing to stay from is energy drinks. working for a large global beverage firm they pulled all their energy drinks and artificially sweetened drinks off the market, sold off brands they were involved with etc following quite  bit of research done on the effects on the body and the range of health issues. energy drinks, the bulk of them, are packed with sugars and acids which isn't great for your teeth for starters causing them to be literally eaten alive.

 

apart from that, as I mentioned earlier rob de costello suggesting for a marathon all you need is a couple of lightly spread jam toasts and a cup of tea. most of us aren't doing marathons so the main thing we need while exercising is really hydration which plain water is just fine for.

 

depends what trying to do I guess...whether its build muscle and bulk and strength as athletes often are or loose weight. if loosing weight I'd stay away from the energy drinks...but then the app is probably telling you that too am guessing

 

I usually wouldn't have any sports drink on a 105 minute ride but I was feeling a bit flat after a late night at the Foo'ies. I only have sports drinks when exercising anyway and I usually would have 1 plain water bidon and 1 with just electrolytes and alternate them.

 

I'd suggest Rob De Castella is dreaming, that would equate to about 3-400 calories for 3-4 hours running for mere mortals, just plain stupid. Yes you could do it but you would risk what cyclists refer to as bonking (hitting the wall) or worse still, muscle melt, the longer the event, the higher the risk if you don't keep fluids and glucose up. A friend had muscle melt last year on a big mountainous ride because he didn't eat enough. You can die from it. Basically your body starts eating itself, using muscle tissue as an energy source once your glycogen stores have run out. Doesn't matter if you are carrying excess weight as I understand it as the body won't use fat stores once your effort is above a certain point.

Edited March 2, 201511 yr by blybo

Blybo I did the same as he suggested for the run for kids ... I didn't have a meltdown

There's plenty on the net can point you to suggesting the same a light breakfast

Eg below,

http://runnersconnect.net/running-nutrition-articles/pre-race-marathon-nutrition/

"4 hours and less

You should be up early enough before the race to eat a small breakfast with plenty of time to start digestion before the gun goes off. If you need 3 hours to eat a small meal before running, then you need to get up at least three hours before the race to get in a light breakfast. You’ll want to drink mostly water (unless you know temperatures at the race are going to be warm), with some electrolyte fluid. Don’t try to get all your fluids down by chugging your water bottle. Drink small, regular sized amounts. Room temperature water is absorbed quicker than warm or cold water. I estimate that you’ll need 6 oz. every hour or 8 oz. every hour on hot days.

Lots of runners will take a GU or energy gel right before the gun goes off. I only recommend this if you have a weak stomach and you haven’t eaten in 3 hours. If you’re able to stomach more solid foods 60-90 minutes before the race, this is preferable. Basically, energy gels are mostly simple sugars and you’ll be consuming another 2 or 3 gels before the race is over. Even for the biggest sweet tooth this is a lot of sugar.

My favorite breakfast – oatmeal with banana and coffee. At this point, you should have a good idea of what works best for you pre hard or long run, so stick with what works."

The thing to keep in mind is the lead up ...

@@blybo a bit flat after the Fooies?? That doesn't sound right.

@@blybo a bit flat after the Fooies?? That doesn't sound right.

 

3 hours of bopping along when you are not used to it... and getting to bed around 1am, not used to that either.

LOL, ol fart!

 

I take a bit longer to get in and out of the car now.

 

It also seems to be noisier. Grunts etc.

Blybo I did the same as he suggested for the run for kids ... I didn't have a meltdown

There's plenty on the net can point you to suggesting the same a light breakfast

Eg below,

http://runnersconnect.net/running-nutrition-articles/pre-race-marathon-nutrition/

"4 hours and less

You should be up early enough before the race to eat a small breakfast with plenty of time to start digestion before the gun goes off. If you need 3 hours to eat a small meal before running, then you need to get up at least three hours before the race to get in a light breakfast. You’ll want to drink mostly water (unless you know temperatures at the race are going to be warm), with some electrolyte fluid. Don’t try to get all your fluids down by chugging your water bottle. Drink small, regular sized amounts. Room temperature water is absorbed quicker than warm or cold water. I estimate that you’ll need 6 oz. every hour or 8 oz. every hour on hot days.

Lots of runners will take a GU or energy gel right before the gun goes off. I only recommend this if you have a weak stomach and you haven’t eaten in 3 hours. If you’re able to stomach more solid foods 60-90 minutes before the race, this is preferable. Basically, energy gels are mostly simple sugars and you’ll be consuming another 2 or 3 gels before the race is over. Even for the biggest sweet tooth this is a lot of sugar.

My favorite breakfast – oatmeal with banana and coffee. At this point, you should have a good idea of what works best for you pre hard or long run, so stick with what works."

The thing to keep in mind is the lead up ...

 

All depends on intensity Al. Keep within "aerobic" intensity and your body can supply fat as fuel to supplement the energy you have eaten. I know from experience of doing long rides in the mountains I need to eat something small once an hour and drink 1 bidon of water/electrolyes or risk bonking, it's happened to me and it's not nice, you can be cruising along feeling fine and then bang, 5 minutes later you are doing 7-8kph up a gentle climb in struggle town.

LOL, ol fart!

 

I take a bit longer to get in and out of the car now.

 

It also seems to be noisier. Grunts etc.

 

Shhh, but my wife makes the old man noises more than me . She stands all day at work so was fine at the concert. Etihad was bloody hot and steamy with the roof shut too but we only sat for a handful of songs. Then got drenched walking back to the car.

 

I bet you go to bed early to be up for your morning walks too!