pi314 Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 (edited) I’m thinking of getting some JBL LSR6328P active speakers. From the same webpage, here is the spec sheet. The specs look amazing to me, in particular the great on and off axis frequency responses. I’m a bit of a speaker novice (though I’ve been doing heaps of reading lately!). I was just wondering if people had any opinions of these speakers? I’m also open to other speaker suggestions, M&Ks, Genelecs, …??? Home theatre and music (2 channel as well as surround) are equally important to me. The reason I got interested in the JBLs was after reading Sean Olive’s blog. (Sean Olive is Director of Acoustic Research for Harman International – I highly recommend anyone interested in sound reproduction to check out his blog.) In particular, the big brother of the 6328 is used in the new The Harman International Reference Listening Room(s). Here is what he had to say about the LSR series of monitors (quote taken from here): “The JBL LSR 6300 series are among the flattest professional monitors I've tested. Check out the published set of anechoic measurements of the 6325P and the 6328P below. Speakers don't get much flatter and smoother than that. Add a subwoofer or 3, and some room-speaker calibration and you're all set. If recordings were made on speakers this good with proper room calibration we'd have fewer bad sounding recordings. If only the recording industry had standards - but that's a topic of it's own for another day.” Anyway, I realise JBL is part of the Harmon group but after reading Sean Olive’s blog and being suitably impressed, I couldn’t help taking notice of the above comment and getting a bit excited Please share your thoughts with me… BTW, if you check out Sean’s blog and like what you find, you should also check out the writings of another sound reproduction guru, Floyd Toole (a good place to start are the articles in this thread Toole articles). Edited November 17, 2009 by pi314
pi314 Posted November 26, 2009 Author Posted November 26, 2009 I'm still interested in comments if anyone has any....
dantan Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with active loudspeakers, and I have not had experience with JBL loudspeakers. The loudspeakers based on the pictures, and the specifications, make these appear very good, indeed. I would certainly recommend to have a listen for yourself. If they sound great to you, grab them! Dan.
sfdoddsy Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 (edited) I’m thinking of getting some JBL LSR6328P active speakers. From the same webpage, here is the spec sheet. The specs look amazing to me, in particular the great on and off axis frequency responses. I’m a bit of a speaker novice (though I’ve been doing heaps of reading lately!). I was just wondering if people had any opinions of these speakers? I’m also open to other speaker suggestions, M&Ks, Genelecs, …??? Home theatre and music (2 channel as well as surround) are equally important to me. The reason I got interested in the JBLs was after reading Sean Olive’s blog. (Sean Olive is Director of Acoustic Research for Harman International – I highly recommend anyone interested in sound reproduction to check out his blog.) In particular, the big brother of the 6328 is used in the new The Harman International Reference Listening Room(s). Here is what he had to say about the LSR series of monitors (quote taken from here): “The JBL LSR 6300 series are among the flattest professional monitors I've tested. Check out the published set of anechoic measurements of the 6325P and the 6328P below. Speakers don't get much flatter and smoother than that. Add a subwoofer or 3, and some room-speaker calibration and you're all set. If recordings were made on speakers this good with proper room calibration we'd have fewer bad sounding recordings. If only the recording industry had standards - but that's a topic of it's own for another day.” Anyway, I realise JBL is part of the Harmon group but after reading Sean Olive’s blog and being suitably impressed, I couldn’t help taking notice of the above comment and getting a bit excited Please share your thoughts with me… BTW, if you check out Sean’s blog and like what you find, you should also check out the writings of another sound reproduction guru, Floyd Toole (a good place to start are the articles in this thread Toole articles). I've heard nothing but positive things about the JBL LSR series. The 43 series also looks good. It is a bit more recent and may give similar performance at lower cost. Another good thing about the JBs is that they are universal voltage so you can buy cheaper from the States. Edited November 26, 2009 by Blackwash
SimonNo10 Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 I would get them just to tell people that they have: "Titanium composite high frequency transducer with Elliptical Oblate Spheroidal waveguide for precise pattern control" They certainly look like they could be an excellent speaker
cwt Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 Being professional monitors pi314 they are designed for use as recording studio monitors [and anechoically treated rooms] but no reason they wouldnt be exceptional home speakers . The +/- 1.5db frequency response is flatter than the traditional +/- 3db rating given to regular speakers so all the flatter freq response You didnt mention your system . Do you have a pre pro or avr with preouts ? one or the other is required and the speakers [like a lot of actives] are very easy to drive with high spl's due to the synergy of the power amps and drivers I would also consider the catalyst sparks ; dont know how much the jbl's are but Blades catalysts are good value for money.
BladeRnR Posted November 26, 2009 Posted November 26, 2009 The JBL's look impressive but have you considered Seaton Sound Catalysts? Seaton Sound Catalysts A quote from Mark Seaton: In my mind, the fact that the speakers can reproduce ~125dB @ 1m at any frequency above 80Hz within linear operating limits is not the most impressive quality. Despite what Mark says above I was so impressed I've bought 3 of them for the front stage. 2000watts each. I'd certainly like to see how they'd stack up against the JBL's or other professional monitors. Blade
pi314 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Posted November 27, 2009 Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with active loudspeakers, and I have not had experience with JBL loudspeakers.The loudspeakers based on the pictures, and the specifications, make these appear very good, indeed. I would certainly recommend to have a listen for yourself. If they sound great to you, grab them! Dan. Thanks Dan - hopefully I'll get to hear them before deciding if I want to purchase them.
pi314 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Posted November 27, 2009 I've heard nothing but positive things about the JBL LSR series. The 43 series also looks good. It is a bit more recent and may give similar performance at lower cost.Another good thing about the JBs is that they are universal voltage so you can buy cheaper from the States. Hi Blackwash, I haven't done as much research on the 43 series but apparently they are quite good though I believe not quite as good as the 6328's. Yes the universal voltage thing is great. Now if we could just get companies to price universally
pi314 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Posted November 27, 2009 I would get them just to tell people that they have:"Titanium composite high frequency transducer with Elliptical Oblate Spheroidal waveguide for precise pattern control"
pi314 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Posted November 27, 2009 Being professional monitors pi314 they are designed for use as recording studio monitors [and anechoically treated rooms] but no reason they wouldnt be exceptional home speakers . The +/- 1.5db frequency response is flatter than the traditional +/- 3db rating given to regular speakers so all the flatter freq response You didnt mention your system . Do you have a pre pro or avr with preouts ? one or the other is required and the speakers [like a lot of actives] are very easy to drive with high spl's due to the synergy of the power amps and drivers I would also consider the catalyst sparks ; dont know how much the jbl's are but Blades catalysts are good value for money. Hi cwt, Thanks for the comments. No - I don't have a avr or pre/pro as yet. The JBLs only have XLR connections and hence I was thinking I might get the new Integra 80.1 pre/pro though I haven't really thought much about the pre-pro/avr thing as yet. Thanks for mentioning the catalyst sparks - I'll have to look into them.
pi314 Posted November 27, 2009 Author Posted November 27, 2009 The JBL's look impressive but have you considered Seaton Sound Catalysts?Seaton Sound Catalysts A quote from Mark Seaton: In my mind, the fact that the speakers can reproduce ~125dB @ 1m at any frequency above 80Hz within linear operating limits is not the most impressive quality. Despite what Mark says above I was so impressed I've bought 3 of them for the front stage. 2000watts each. I'd certainly like to see how they'd stack up against the JBL's or other professional monitors. Blade Hi Blade, Thanks for the link - that SPL and power are huge! My room is only very small (3.3m x 3.7m) and hence these would probably be too much. In any case, I certainly will check them out with interest. BTW, the max SPL @ 1m of the 6328's is more in the range of 111 dB but thats probably with some distortion. Power is also much less.
BladeRnR Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 (edited) Hi Blade,Thanks for the link - that SPL and power are huge! My room is only very small (3.3m x 3.7m) and hence these would probably be too much. In any case, I certainly will check them out with interest. BTW, the max SPL @ 1m of the 6328's is more in the range of 111 dB but thats probably with some distortion. Power is also much less. Yeah crazy SPL but in a very large HT room or auditorium it's probably appropriate (And useable). My full review will follow when I get hem early next year. Cheers Blade Edited November 28, 2009 by BladeRnR
cwt Posted November 27, 2009 Posted November 27, 2009 No - I don't have a avr or pre/pro as yet. The JBLs only have XLR connections and hence I was thinking I might get the new Integra 80.1 pre/pro though I haven't really thought much about the pre-pro/avr thing as yet.Thanks for mentioning the catalyst sparks - I'll have to look into them. Understood pi314 ; xlr conections makes it easier to choose [and knocks out a few like the new nad m15hd ]. Very thin on the ground at a reasonable price; apart from the 80.1 ; the cary 11a and maybe the denon avp-c1x if they ever release it
pi314 Posted November 28, 2009 Author Posted November 28, 2009 (edited) Understood pi314 ; xlr conections makes it easier to choose [and knocks out a few like the new nad m15hd ]. Very thin on the ground at a reasonable price; apart from the 80.1 ; the cary 11a and maybe the denon avp-c1x if they ever release it Thanks for pointing out the Denon AVP-CIX. I had no idea of its existence. Looks like the earliest it will be out is about mid-2010. I take it they haven't released official specs, as yet? The best information I've found so far is the following: http://www.avforums.com/forums/denon-owner...avr-4310-a.html I wonder how it will compare to the Integra DHC 80.1? Edit: Apparently non-North American Denon's don't support Audyssey Pro I can't believe this... Edited November 29, 2009 by pi314
cwt Posted November 29, 2009 Posted November 29, 2009 Thanks for pointing out the Denon AVP-CIX. I had no idea of its existence. Looks like the earliest it will be out is about mid-2010. I take it they haven't released official specs, as yet? The best information I've found so far is the following:http://www.avforums.com/forums/denon-owner...avr-4310-a.html I wonder how it will compare to the Integra DHC 80.1? Edit: Apparently non-North American Denon's don't support Audyssey Pro I can't believe this... Thats all I found too pi314 .It'l be interesting how they spec the c1 ; the avp-a1 is fully balanced input to output ;maybe the c1 will be unbalanced like most ? Apart from the sound quality ? the integra has 1 extra hdmi ; isf calibration capability and reon instead of abt video processing for the denon . Or get 2 seperate boxes one audio one video to eliminate cross emi/rf completely [ime a cary 11a owner if you cant tell ]
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