emibel Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) This article questions whether the Tivo will have an EPG (which is pretty absurd - suggesting Oz broadband might not be good enough to handle an EPG patently so) I think you mis-interpreted that. The way I read it, he is saying that Oz broadband may not be good enough to support either the additional content or the Tivo itself, not the EPG, meaning that something other than the EPG may be coming over broadband? Edited August 20, 2007 by emibel
pgdownload Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 I think you mis-interpreted that. The way I read it, he is saying that Oz broadband may not be good enough to support either the additional content or the Tivo itself, not the EPG, meaning that something other than the EPG may be coming over broadband?Agree emibel. I was a little sensitive to the association the statements inferred."A TiVo without an EPG is useless," Mr Leach said. "Is the broadband structure good enough" Taken as a whole its more evident that the EPG was one issue and broadband capability (for downloading additional Tv content) quite another. Regards Peter Gillespie
diesel Posted August 20, 2007 Posted August 20, 2007 Certainly if TiVo is trying to be different from other PVRs by offering more content via internet based media (Yahoo 7), this may be hampered by the relatively infant broadband infrastructure in this country. This will change in time, but will it be soon enough? Is there a big enough market in Australia for people wanting to watch youtube on their PVR? Don't most just want a reliable recording device? If Tivo could offer something like below, this could be a good marketing edge The New York Times reported this week that Time Warner Cable in the US was about to offer customers a free recording feature called "Look Back" that would allow them to see programs they have missed from earlier in the day, but would not let them flick through the commercials.
diesel Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 Seven Media TiVo Customers To Get Access To Rhapsody Seven Media which is set to roll out a new TiVo offering in Australia will next year have access to Rhapsody’s digital music service, following the announcement of a joint venture between RealNetworks and Viacom’s MTV Networks, which will allow Seven Media Tivo customers to access music content via any broadband-connected TiVo device. TiVo subscribers will be able to search for and play any of the 4 million-plus songs in Rhapsody's music catalogue directly through their broadband-connected TiVos using Rhapsody's new predictive search feature. Users can also browse charts of Rhapsody's most popular artists, albums and songs; view weekly lists of new releases; or listen to thousands of radio channels. According to a release, TiVo subscribers will have access to a free 30-day trial of Rhapsody. They can then choose to continue their Rhapsody service beyond the trial period for around $12.99 per month.
diesel Posted October 16, 2007 Posted October 16, 2007 (edited) So, with 7 launching their 7HD multi channeling/alternate programming last night I can start to see the benefit of the Tivo with features like season pass etc with different shows being shown on the different channels in effect you could have up to 10(?) different shows on at the same time on FTA. And with only two tuners in most HD PVRs, the ability to search for non conflicting timers becomes very important. Hope the BW/ICETV EPG can offer this sort of smarts... http://www.sevencorporate.com.au/_uploads/...-16-october.pdf BTW, this partnership with Tivo and a US PayTV STB producer if copied here could see the end of the Foxtel IQ? Comcast to Release TiVo-enabled Boxes TiVo, which makes its own branded digital video recorders, first signed an agreement with Comcast in March 2005 to enable the cable operators' customers to use TiVo software on their Comcast boxes. But the launch of the service has taken longer than analysts expected as both companies worked out how to integrate TiVo software with some models of Comcast set-top boxes. Edited October 16, 2007 by diesel
Jason Teale Posted October 16, 2007 Posted October 16, 2007 Just arrived around here ... and my brother-in-law works for the the organisation owned by seven and he is trialling the Tivo now ... I suspect this will tie into an alternative pay-tv model from seven, etc ... competition is good!
WhereAreTheChannels Posted October 17, 2007 Posted October 17, 2007 Just arrived around here ... and my brother-in-law works for the the organisation owned by seven and he is trialling the Tivo now ... I suspect this will tie into an alternative pay-tv model from seven, etc ... competition is good! Now my head hurts...do I buy: a. Foxtel IQ b. Beyonwiz c. TiVo d. Do nothing e. All the above ...or is the TiVo going to do it all for me....
diesel Posted October 17, 2007 Posted October 17, 2007 The Tivo is a pretty good offering if Channel 7HD don't hobble it. The two things that I have concerns about are 1. only FF & RR for ads - no skipping 2. subscription fee for the service $12.99/mth? It won't replace but compete with Foxtel for now
Couj Posted November 29, 2007 Posted November 29, 2007 This is an interesting development "TiVo coming to PC via Nero software" http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/28/tivo-co...-nero-software/ I wonder how this will affect TiVo's release in Australia
themolk Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 Jsut to drop in some info that may help clarify partnerships, etc... The company that is bringing out TiVo to AU is owned by Kerry Stokes - Channel 7 owner by major shareholding. He also owns Engin (Residential VoIP company), and are using that market to start the push. Look for LOTS of stories on Today Tonight about the Tivo when it is ready to launch...
hobotivo Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 Jsut to drop in some info that may help clarify partnerships, etc...The company that is bringing out TiVo to AU is owned by Kerry Stokes - Channel 7 owner by major shareholding. He also owns Engin (Residential VoIP company), and are using that market to start the push. Look for LOTS of stories on Today Tonight about the Tivo when it is ready to launch... I was hesitant (as a forum newbie) to resurrect this ancient thread, but since you've done so... Yes, I think we're going to see a huge TiVo push from Seven in the next few months. This might be one story that isn't cloned between Today Tonight and A Current Affair at last! Cheers Ron
hobotivo Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 Anyone else note the eSata connector? Also made in Mexico, not Korea like our usual fare. So it's obviously designed to allow backup to external hard drive. I wonder how 7even will explain / deal with this given the copywrite 'watch once' laws. Now this thread has been rescued from the dead I'll correct/clarify things where I can't see that anybody else has... The SATA connector is not for backup, it adds to the storage on the TiVo, nothing more (a process known in the TiVo world as a drive "marriage") Once married, the external drive cannot be used with any other device, even another TiVo without reformatting and thus the loss of all data. Cheers Ron
hobotivo Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 G'day,Does the Tivo send any user data back at all? Info like which shows (and ads) are recorded, watched, or skipped may be quite valuable to Channel 7 (especially if that data also includes Channel 9, 10, etc). --Geoff This question was incorrectly answered as "no." The correct answer is "yes," however the user has the option to opt out of this. Personal data is not collected, only aggregated by Zip (post) code. Whether data collection will be implemented in AU is not yet clear, I would expect it however, knowledge is power, and very saleable. Cheers Ron
diesel Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 The correct answer is "yes," however the user has the option to opt out of this. Personal data is not collected, only aggregated by Zip (post) code.Whether data collection will be implemented in AU is not yet clear, I would expect it however, knowledge is power, and very saleable. Seven could certainly use it for advertising purposes and hence revenue.
hobotivo Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 I really wanted a Tivo way back then (its about a decade old now). To answer the question a the Tivo was pretty much the first PVR to go main stream. It was a very simple VCR replacement. Single analogue tuner it was notable for such things as:<snip> 6) The big red 30 second skip button <Snip> ... an Oz Tivo community developed (still going strong I believe) <snip> No TiVo ever had a "big red 30 second skip button." The 30 second skip has always been, and still is, only accessible by pressing a certain key sequence on the remote, and programs new behaviour onto the "skip to live" (aka catch-up) button. This has never been publicised by TiVo themsleves and, while not hard to find, is probably completely unknown to most "normal" users who just buy the box and plug it in! There are dozens of such hacks available to do things like display an onscreen clock etc. The ozTiVo community is still most definitely going strong at this stage. Cheers Ron
hobotivo Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 (edited) Im thinking I might buy a TiVo myself just for GAF/WAF factor - especially after I bricked the bios on my Media Center PC the other night! Apparently the original Tivo had a user selectable 2nd IR code-base so that you could run 2 in the same room without them interfering with each other, I wonder if that it still the case? Wife Acceptance Factor. Most of us has have had the experience of bringing home some cutting edge new toy, and having one's partner say "why on earth did you buy THAT?" But with TiVo, while that may be the initial reaction, it usually lasts about 2 hours, and then they're hooked! Everybody loves TiVo! At 6.45pm on Sunday 22 April, 2001 I finished hacking my very first US TiVo (following Tridge's original plans) to work in Australia. At that stage I had no EPG, no PAL tuner, just the ability to record whatever signal I applied to the composite inputs. My wife refused to let me take it into the lounge but I argued and prevailed, despite her saying she wouldn't use it anyway. It took only about 30 minutes for her to become a believer! The following week, while trying another hack to increase the live buffer size I managed to mess it up and put it out of commission for a week, she missed it so much that she immediately authorised the purchase of another TiVo for me to hack on as I was never again allowed to touch "her TiVo". IR codebase. You can have up to 9 TiVos in the same room! Each remote knows 9 sets of codes, you select which one you want it to be, then tell the TiVos which numbered code to respond to. A single remote can even be (logically) two remotes, there's a toggle switch on each remote to select which one it should currently be. (Series 1 TiVo remotes, which we certainly won't get, lack this toggle switch however) The TiVo remote exemplifies TiVo's dedication to great design, let's face it, the RC is how you communicate with the device, it should be as perfect as possible! There's an article from the New York Times on the TiVo's remote and the philosophies behind it here. And they're even better now. The top of the line remotes have a learning capability and backlighting but they still adhere to the great original design. To see Tivo's full range of remotes go here. Personally, I believe that Harmony nicked TiVo's physical design for their 880 remote, but who knows, it could be just a coincidence that they share the same "peanut" shape! Cheers Ron Edited January 4, 2008 by hobotivo
Imprint Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 one thing to note with only the FF and RW for ads etc. is that when you FF through the ad if you go too far when you hit play it plays from the end of the last ad. Maybe its just a lucky coincidence, but every time i FF through and ad and hit play when i see the show is back on. it always plays from the end of the last ad. I don't know if this is something tivo has always done but its nice.
hobotivo Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 one thing to note with only the FF and RW for ads etc. is that when you FF through the ad if you go too far when you hit play it plays from the end of the last ad. Maybe its just a lucky coincidence, but every time i FF through and ad and hit play when i see the show is back on. it always plays from the end of the last ad. I don't know if this is something tivo has always done but its nice. Haha! It's not a lucky coincidence at all, it's by design. It's called overshoot collection and TiVo have patented it. Read the patent here. It's one of the cleverest of of TiVo's many clever features! Constanly monitors your behaviour and refines its algorithm to compensate for your reaction times. Brilliant! Still enjoying it Matt? Cheers Ron
hobotivo Posted January 4, 2008 Posted January 4, 2008 Thanks for the reply.What about Web access? Do either of the TiVO or Beyonwiz allow for web browsing directly ie. without having to access the web via a PC? Can't speak with certainty about the BW but I can't find such a feature in the doco, but for pure browsing the TiVo doesn't, and personally I wouldn't want it anyway! The TiVo (in the US anyway) can access the web for certain functions like getting software updates, EPG data and purchasing on-demand movies, but that's it. If you really want on-line browsing best to buy a HTPC, I bought one to test out the Media Centre in Vista, but it's ghastly... Wanna buy it? My wife won't have it in the lounge, and I don't want it either! Yuck! Cheers Ron
Harry1503559513 Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Hi , Tivo is about to beta test , just received an email :from them " Become one of the first to try TiVo! We’d like to offer you the opportunity to be one of the first to try TiVo. We need dedicated people to test our pre-launch test units and provide feedback "
diesel Posted January 8, 2008 Posted January 8, 2008 Hi , Tivo is about to beta test , just received an email :from them" Become one of the first to try TiVo! We’d like to offer you the opportunity to be one of the first to try TiVo. We need dedicated people to test our pre-launch test units and provide feedback " I am sure they will include some Confidentiality Agreement with it, but if not keep us posted on how you find using it.
Trigg Posted January 8, 2008 Posted January 8, 2008 Hi , Tivo is about to beta test , just received an email :from them" Become one of the first to try TiVo! We’d like to offer you the opportunity to be one of the first to try TiVo. We need dedicated people to test our pre-launch test units and provide feedback " Got the same! Hope I get to test it!
Austus Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 Got the same! Hope I get to test it! Me Three !!! Having already used Tivo in the USA it will be good to do a comparison.
diesel Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 As you may have already read Foxtel have just announced some more details of their HD IQ2 PVR Foxtel today announced the introduction of a new HD set-top box called iQ2 and a new service called Foxtel HD+ which, when launched in the second half of 2008, will offer subscribers over 100 different TV channels including four HD stations – BBC HD, Discovery HD, National Geographic HD and ESPN HD. Interesting that Free TV also released a statement praising the HD TV services and in the last paragraph of they story mention a 2nd half of 2008 release - cutting it awfully fine for the Beijing Olympics... Foxtel will be joined by a similar US-owned service called TiVo in the second half of 2007, which will be brought into the country by Seven Network, meaning Seven will own part of the both the pay TV and free-to-air TV markets
ozdoc Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 As you may have already read Foxtel have just announced some more details of their HD IQ2 PVRInteresting that Free TV also released a statement praising the HD TV services and in the last paragraph of they story mention a 2nd half of 2008 release - cutting it awfully fine for the Beijing Olympics... Actually the quote says the second half of 2007....
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