25 minutes ago, vinilink said:

@AccuTidal I have attached some photos from a Magico Speaker based auditioning (treated) room from a Magico retailer in Korea for your reference. Not sure whether you will like it though.

Wow CH…! Ouch. 

The room is exceptionally well-designed. Do you have its dimensions? 

39 minutes ago, AccuTidal said:

Wow CH…! Ouch. 

The room is exceptionally well-designed. Do you have its dimensions? 

Sorry, I took screenshots from the retailer's website https://avplaza.co.kr/, https://avplaza.co.kr/product-category/hifi/hifi-speaker/?filter_brand=magico&query_type_brand=or. Thus, have no idea of room dimensions.

It is in Korean, you may able to use Google translate into English to read and when you see the rrp on their website, take the last 3 digits off to get you an idea of pricing in $A. The website says, M9 is ready for an audition along with many other Magico speakers. 

6 minutes ago, vinilink said:

take the last 3 digits off to get you an idea of pricing in $A. The website says, M9 is ready for an audition along with many other Magico speakers. 

A$1.4 million... ?

10 minutes ago, vinilink said:

Thus, have no idea of room dimensions.

The hifi immersion youtube channel (excellent recording methodology) has visited that place several times, e.g.

 

7 minutes ago, Martykt said:

A$1.4 million... ?

Yes

20 minutes ago, Martykt said:

A$1.4 million... ?

 

12 minutes ago, vinilink said:

Yes

I believe they are exceeding $1.5 million from A2A. At that price point, the Tidal La Assolute may be a better alternative.

To put the cat amongst the pigeons,

at that price maybe listen to Goldmund, fully active, etc etc.?

(apart from ugly as)

or top of the range B&O?

1 hour ago, Jventer said:

To put the cat amongst the pigeons,

at that price maybe listen to Goldmund, fully active, etc etc.?

(apart from ugly as)

or top of the range B&O?

You’re absolutely right! M series don’t really catch my eye. I usually listen to them late at night, usually after 9 pm, with the lights off. So, appearance isn’t really my top priority.

 

But, I’m not a big fan of Goldmund’s active speakers. They look a bit odd, like they’re made up of different blocks with a frame. 

4 hours ago, AccuTidal said:

 

I believe they are exceeding $1.5 million from A2A. At that price point, the Tidal La Assolute may be a better alternative.

You could probably come up with plenty of flagship alternatives under $1.5 million.

I'm sure they're very good if you happen to be in that market but your previous posts referring to auditioning the m7 instead make more sense as the m9 would definitely push your budget somewhat...

 

It does ask the question though are Magico just going for the big money clients or is there more advanced technology and build quality that would warrant the high price?

On 19/04/2025 at 6:13 PM, AccuTidal said:

I took the tour to the opera house two days ago, and the acoustic treatment in their main orchestra hall is nothing but timber and fibreglass acoustic treated.

All sorts of acoustic problems resulted from the cost saving measures during the original construction after Jorn Utzon was replaced. 

The story of the recent upgrading work is well worth Googling. 

4 hours ago, Martykt said:

It does ask the question though are Magico just going for the big money clients or is there more advanced technology and build quality that would warrant the high price?

Not only big money clients. The entry level A-series is pitched at a wider audience who want to dip their toes in the Magico pool.

40 minutes ago, brodricj said:

Not only big money clients. The entry level A-series is pitched at a wider audience who want to dip their toes in the Magico pool.

Only referring to the m9.

On 20/04/2025 at 11:20 AM, AccuTidal said:

 

I believe they are exceeding $1.5 million from A2A. At that price point, the Tidal La Assolute may be a better alternative.

Hi Chan, been off crook with my first ever dreaded Covid Experience the past fortnight.  So have been checking out nearly every Magico M series and all of the Tidal range of speakers on You Tube Videos to kill some time.

Its no secret i am biased towards nicely excecuted horns , however as far as direct radiators go , to my ears, the Tidal range is just wholesomely beautifully voiced and i can relate what sets them apart by a long margin for hi end audio nirvarna ,  true ear candy.

If price is no object then Magico M-series should be on one's purchasing radar. But at current pricing there is a lot of competition out there. Entry level Magico A3 is now $29,999 RRP.

I've got Esoteric Grandioso N1T and Shunyata Sigma XC V2 power cable on order. Chanh and I going to do a box opening video at his place. Might also take my Bladelius integrated along. So stay tuned for that one.

5 hours ago, La scala said:

Hi Chan, been off crook with my first ever dreaded Covid Experience the past fortnight.  So have been checking out nearly every Magico M series and all of the Tidal range of speakers on You Tube Videos to kill some time.

Its no secret i am biased towards nicely excecuted horns , however as far as direct radiators go , to my ears, the Tidal range is just wholesomely beautifully voiced and i can relate what sets them apart by a long margin for hi end audio nirvarna ,  true ear candy.

 

I regret to hear that you are unwell. I hope you have recovered well.

I concur. Horn speakers impart a sense of speed, liveliness, and realism. However, when it comes to classical orchestras, my S5s still outperform those currently available at their market value. 

Here is a quick iPhone capture! 

 

What power conditioning are you using, do you still have the Accuphase?

15 minutes ago, brodricj said:

What power conditioning are you using, do you still have the Accuphase?

Yes, I can’t go without them. However, the Gryphon AS Monos connect directly to Oyadei wall sockets via cheap Shunyata power cables. 

Just now, AccuTidal said:

...via cheap Shunyata power cables. 

Interesting. I have some Sigma V2 power cables. Both XC and NR. You can try those against your cheap Shunyata. I also have some Shunyata Delta V2 which is now discontinued: they were entry level but the new Gamma is cheaper still. I've heard mixed reports about the new Gamma/Theta, I'll make do with my discontinued cables.

It would be interesting to hear a pair of Yamaha NS5000s in this  company. I have heard them sounding both quite ordinary and extremely good depending on the system and room. At their best I suspect they perform way above their $20,000 asking price would indicate and at least as good as the Magico S5s [probably depending on taste]. To my hearing the S5s are very accurate,neutral,precise and fault free  with fantastic bass but perhaps the NS5000s  sound a bit more organic and expressive [especially the midrange] for people who value those traits.They are also much easier to drive with a pretty benign looking impedance curve.

4 hours ago, THOMO said:

It would be interesting to hear a pair of Yamaha NS5000s in this  company. I have heard them sounding both quite ordinary and extremely good depending on the system and room. At their best I suspect they perform way above their $20,000 asking price would indicate and at least as good as the Magico S5s [probably depending on taste]. To my hearing the S5s are very accurate,neutral,precise and fault free  with fantastic bass but perhaps the NS5000s  sound a bit more organic and expressive [especially the midrange] for people who value those traits.They are also much easier to drive with a pretty benign looking impedance curve.

It’s interesting that you mentioned the NS5000S, Thomo. In my personal experience, I’ve found that the LM3 Horn speakers outperformed the NS5000S in several aspects under the same conditions. However, I could be mistaken. I believe that the middle-range ACTs might pose a significant challenge to the NS5000s. From my listening experience, it seemed that the NS5000S could improve in terms of timing, speed, resolution, and particularly in bass definition and texture.

 

I don’t believe that the vintage Yamaha NS5000s are comparable to any of the following speakers, at least based on my personal, firsthand auditions: Magico, Marten, Tidal, Kharma, and Estelon. Of course, this is merely my perspective, and I’m still learning and expanding my knowledge of the audio world.

1 hour ago, AccuTidal said:

It’s interesting that you mentioned the NS5000S, Thomo. In my personal experience, I’ve found that the LM3 Horn speakers outperformed the NS5000S in several aspects under the same conditions. However, I could be mistaken. I believe that the middle-range ACTs might pose a significant challenge to the NS5000s. From my listening experience, it seemed that the NS5000S could improve in terms of timing, speed, resolution, and particularly in bass definition and texture.

 

I don’t believe that the vintage Yamaha NS5000s are comparable to any of the following speakers, at least based on my personal, firsthand auditions: Magico, Marten, Tidal, Kharma, and Estelon. Of course, this is merely my perspective, and I’m still learning and expanding my knowledge of the audio world.

I have heard the Yamaha and was not impressed at all, the sound was different... but not pleasant for me

1 hour ago, AdrianRa said:

I have heard the Yamaha and was not impressed at all, the sound was different... but not pleasant for me

I thI think it’s all about personal taste. These speakers seem to be a hit with a group of O65 audiophiles. In this age group, they really love vintage speakers like Gale, JBL, and especially the Yamaha NS. …. 🫣😬

 

Having said that, I’m not that far away from them other than having a youthful heart and look! 😁

 

Incidentally, would anyone be interested in observing the setup this Sunday? 

7 hours ago, THOMO said:

To my hearing the S5s are very accurate,neutral,precise and fault free  with fantastic bass but perhaps the NS5000s  sound a bit more organic and expressive [especially the midrange] for people who value those traits.

To my ears the NS5000s sound was metallic and harsh rather than organic and expressive.

27 minutes ago, AccuTidal said:

I thI think it’s all about personal taste. These speakers seem to be a hit with a group of O65 audiophiles. In this age group, they really love vintage speakers like Gale, JBL, and especially the Yamaha NS. …. 🫣😬

 

Having said that, I’m not that far away from them other than having a youthful heart and look! 😁

 

Incidentally, would anyone be interested in observing the setup this Sunday? 

Which setup? Yours? I would love to! Absolutely 

3 hours ago, AccuTidal said:

I don’t believe that the vintage Yamaha NS5000s are comparable to any of the following speakers, at least based on my personal, firsthand auditions: Magico, Marten, Tidal, Kharma, and Estelon. Of course, this is merely my perspective, and I’m still learning and expanding my knowledge of the audio world.

Are you possibly thinking of the NS2000?

The NS5000 are Yamahas modern take on the vintage NS range.

That said apart from the Estelon which I haven't heard I would put all of those speakers you've mentioned in a whole other league to the NS5000 and would be quite happy listening to any one of them.