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CSIRO Total Wellbeing Diet

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300g more this morning. [emoji106]. Need to stop weighing myself everyday though.

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  • Yes definitely stop getting on the scales daily, but keep up the good work.     I've been on weight watchers since Dec last year and have lost 36.5 kg, needless to say I had let myself go over the l

  • Rach says I'm wasting away. I've lost a lot more size than 5kg's would suggest, as I was starting to carry around a bit of fluid before.   She's lost 2kgs as well so win win, not that she needed to

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    its one of the problem I saw with the program was following recipes... since we have our own... good you found a way around just using as guidance.   I had my 4 week follow up with the doc.   we n

300g more this morning. [emoji106]. Need to stop weighing myself everyday though.

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Get a smart scale.

Apply 21 day smoothing filter. Focus on medium to long term results. Daily numbers are meaningless. Did you take a sh*t or a piss before weighing? Did you drink more fluids before bedtime last night. Snack before bed? Biorhythm's may vary results.  Don't sweat the small stuff.

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Apply 21 day smoothing filter. Focus on medium to long term results. Daily numbers are meaningless. Did you take a sh*t or a piss before weighing? Did you drink more fluids before bedtime last night. Snack before bed? Biorhythm's may vary results.  Don't sweat the small stuff.

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Yeah I know but I can't help myself... :P . Feeling better than I have for months, but I'm sure I'll get mildly annoyed the first time I don't see a loss, which is why I'm meant to weigh in only once a week!

 

We are having dinner at a shopping centre food court tonight and I've already worked out the best meal to keep within Total Wellbeing Diet (TWD) food group parameters.

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300g more this morning. [emoji106]. Need to stop weighing myself everyday though.

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Yes definitely stop getting on the scales daily, but keep up the good work.  :)

 

I've been on weight watchers since Dec last year and have lost 36.5 kg, needless to say I had let myself go over the last decade or so, but I'm feeling so much better now.

 

Still some to lose but the bulk of it (pardon the pun) is gone.  :)

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Yes definitely stop getting on the scales daily, but keep up the good work.   :)

 

I've been on weight watchers since Dec last year and have lost 36.5 kg, needless to say I had let myself go over the last decade or so, but I'm feeling so much better now.

 

Still some to lose but the bulk of it (pardon the pun) is gone.  :)

 

Awesome achievement. Well done. We were advised to try the CSIRO TWD diet or Weight Watchers, quite a bit of it is similar, where you count points, I count serves of each food group. I guess I preferred the idea of a non commercial/government backed scientific approach.

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Awesome achievement. Well done. We were advised to try the CSIRO TWD diet or Weight Watchers, quite a bit of it is similar, where you count points, I count serves of each food group. I guess I preferred the idea of a non commercial/government backed scientific approach.

 

Thanks.  :)

 

I actually hadn't even looked at the CSIRO diet but the point counting works quite well and it's not a strict "you must eat this" diet, I've tried those before with no success. 

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First "Official" weigh in this morning. 97.8kg's, pretty happy with that considering I rode 50kms over the weekend and I know from the days when I was fit that my body would be heavier for a day or 2 after a big ride. Embarrassingly, my legs consider 30kms to be a decent ride these days, never used to give it a second thought to to ride anywhere up to 100km's.

Chronic illness hit me but I didn't have a weight increase until I got a house to live in and then I grew a gut since I can't get out to exercise.

 

No one else could fix me so I went to an immunologist.  Really hard diet/lifestyle regime because it's supposed to help with illness not strictly weightloss but I have lost the gut and fit my clothes again.  I don't mind the weight loss but it's damn hard and I'm not cured !!

 

Will have a look at the CSIRO link from OP.

 

EDIT: ARGH !!  Got a clash there since mine is supposed to be medical not just weight loss.  I'm supposed to avoid all the 'grass' based plants and flours.  That counts out Wheat, Rice, Corn /flours which are in just about every bloody thing , often just as 'filler'.

 

MORE EDIT: Hahaha.  Csiro assessment says I'm o.3KG over ideal, which is well within the 'Healthy' range by the way , and then goes onto tell me I could lose6.5KG which would put me marginal 'Underweight' !  I don't think that's a good idea !  I'm losing more weight than I should already.

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Heads UP{: If you do the test they'll spam you senseless until you 'unsubscibe'.  I came out in the 'Healthy' range so 'my' spam wants me to be all energetic now.

I'm around 77kg, within my desired BMI, so I indulged in the Domino's diet last night.

Edit: I'd love to know who the 1 star rating bandit is.

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I had 2 glasses of wine last and small bowl popcorn. The wine is allowed (100ml every night if you wish) but weighed myself this morning and have lost another 0.5kg since Monday

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I have a pair of board shorts I bought in 2010, if I can still put them on, I'm all good........

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I have a pair of board shorts I bought in 2010, if I can still put them on, I'm all good........

I got married in 2010. Goal is to get back in the suit for an October wedding we are going to in Townsville

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Another 500g loss this week. Suspect it would of been more like 1 kg if not for a big ride on Saturday my bodies still recovering from and a bit of an indulgent brunch for my nephews birthday yesterday... Will weigh myself tomorrow just for interests sake to see if I have retained fluid due to the bike ride.

A story if you want about losing weight:

 

I went to an immunologist for my long term illness.  He said I had a common viral variant which I'd had for a long time but 'life stress' had got on top of me which meant my immune system wasn't coping ,( he is an Immunologist after all).   His call was that since plants can't run away from being eaten they have spikes ( or other physical means) and poison sap to defend themselves and my low immune system meant I was being poisoned by plants.  Eating sugars to give me 'energy' was just giving me a gut (of course).

His 'treatment' was to "just eat meat" to start with and introduce plants to find out which were poisonous to me and to give away the sugars.

 

This way my body went into blood sugar deficit in the first week before turning around to use bodyfat for energy instead of sugars.  I have lost weight and can get back into clothes that had 'shrunk' ;)

 

My point was for health not weightloss but I can tell you now it's hell effective but it's no fun.

(His other comment was "People only eat grass when they are starving".  Which cuts out any form or flour of Wheat, Oats, Corn, Rice... + whatever else. (Bamboo shoots ?) ).

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I've heard that nuts are more digestible when roasted because they have enzymey things that make consuming animals unwell to deter predation, and heating the nuts kills the bad things.

 

I'm down 10 kg (87 > 77) from eating no sugar but some of that loss is muscle mass from reduced activity due to holiday bludginess.

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Well it took a day longer than expected but lost 0.8kg yesterday to bring total loss to 5 kegs exactly 2.5 weeks into new eating plan

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Blybo - that is a lot in 2.5 weeks.  If you keep that off next week you have done well.If you shed more weight,well outstanding.

Just make sure you are maintaining your muscle mass with exercise, and be particularly happy if the belt is moving a notch or so.

My wife and I have tried three books of the CSIRO Total Wellbeing Diet series.  We really liked the menus but noted that all the meals swapping day by day is time consuming both in the sense that each recipe takes about an hour to prepare and that each day swaps recipe.  One worthwhile variation is to double the portion size when preparing so that cooking the next day is a reheat only.

 

Also the cost of eating went up too.

 

Other than that it's pretty good.

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We aren't really using the recipes. Just maintaining the food group portion allowances. We have done a couple of casseroles which were nice, but as warm weather is coming if cranked up the BBQ and we are having a roughly 200g piece of meat each night with salad or veg. We also aren't having the "indulgences" each night and often not having desert either. This allows a couple of drinks on the weekend and also extra "fuel" for bike rides

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We are involved in a consultancy with an NZ company that manufacture a range of supplements and skincare and as a protocol, we started on these supplements about 6 months ago. Haven't changed diets, still do the same amount of manual work each day and still don't exercise but walk all the time as I don't sit at a desk all day and still enjoy alcohol in moderation and have dropped about 9 kgs and feel better than I have in years. No more mood swings, cranky pants have been kicked to the curb, my family can't believe the difference, don't get tired anymore, more focused and no brain fog. Even got my mum to take them and she said she felt so much better in herself when walking and much more energy and she is 82. Now I have to convince the old man to start taking them but he is stubborn as a mule and even though he can see the difference in her, his doctor hadn't heard of them so wouldn't recommend them.

The supplements were accepted for FDA drug trials last November for a 5 year test with 5000 participants with the expectation of increasing the quality of life for between 5 to 15 years. Only 24 drugs accepted for this trial since 2004. Interesting science behind the project as it started out looking for a cure for MS and Parkinson's disease. The product is called MITOQ.

No real relevance to the CSIRO diet but being healthy and living better is what it's all about.

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Blybo - that is a lot in 2.5 weeks.  If you keep that off next week you have done well.If you shed more weight,well outstanding.

Just make sure you are maintaining your muscle mass with exercise, and be particularly happy if the belt is moving a notch or so.

 

It certainly is and I would be concerned if it continued at that rate, however, I lost a bit over 2kgs in the first 2 days as a result of flushing excess fluid from my body.

I've heard that nuts are more digestible when roasted because they have enzymey things that make consuming animals unwell to deter predation, and heating the nuts kills the bad things.

 

I'm down 10 kg (87 > 77) from eating no sugar but some of that loss is muscle mass from reduced activity due to holiday bludginess.

10KG is prob about the weight I lost very quickly from just about the same thing.  (Lost any muscle mass I had years ago from being too crook to move).

 

Yep I'm fully into munching on a tub of roast mixed nuts now instead of 'Jelly Baby' type things.  It adds fibre and useful oils too.  There's also Almond 'meal' as a rough flour substitute.

 

The trap of 'weightloss' is indeed losing muscle mass as a few of you have mentioned.  I'm told Muscle actually weighs more than fat so it is possible to put weight *on* but be in *better* shape.

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10KG is prob about the weight I lost very quickly from just about the same thing.  (Lost any muscle mass I had years ago from being too crook to move).

 

Yep I'm fully into munching on a tub of roast mixed nuts now instead of 'Jelly Baby' type things.  It adds fibre and useful oils too.  There's also Almond 'meal' as a rough flour substitute.

 

The trap of 'weightloss' is indeed losing muscle mass as a few of you have mentioned.  I'm told Muscle actually weighs more than fat so it is possible to put weight *on* but be in *better* shape.

 

Yup, I started cycling years ago at 85kg and quickly went up to 88kg despite slimming down, but getting much stronger and fitter.

 

I'm doing daily exercise of some sort, walking 3 days, cycling 3 days and 1 day of mild strength exercises like like push ups, sit ups, core strengthening etc. The CSIRO eating and exercise plan suggests you should not lose muscle mass because you are increasing protein intake and exercising moderately to burn off excess body fat. I'm not following their exercise plan but the cycling (which is my sport of choice) will build muscle and fitness quickly.

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