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Off the grog!!

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Sure has @@Darren69, about the time the new speakers were ordered.

Will be in Melb. this weekend to pick them up :D

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Hugely exciting. Will look forward to your review!

Will take a bit to get operational, few weeks to design/organise all the enclosures.

Again, 1 pot with dinner at the pub and no desire for more. Pleased.

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Really pushed myself with the run this morning and after brekky, was @ 94kg. Happy with that, after the weekend, haha.

Will keep going for the rest of the week.

Again, 1 pot with dinner at the pub and no desire for more.

 

 

Bloody hell, I take it all back. You are the model of temperance itself. I don't think you have any problem with the drinking - it seems you can control it without much effort at all. 

 

Pleased.

 

 

As well you might be. Congratulations. Feels good to have the reins.

 

Now, how is the mood?

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Bloody hell, I take it all back. You are the model of temperance itself. I don't think you have any problem with the drinking - it seems you can control it without much effort at all. 

 

 

As well you might be. Congratulations. Feels good to have the reins.

 

Now, how is the mood?

 

Mood has improved but I suspect that is probably largely from sleeping better, feeling better about my drinking and taking steps to get to the bottom of my issues. Still not excitable though. I'm up to day 6 on the "mood" supplement so hopefully that will start helping too.

 

Going to see Spandau Ballet with SWMBO tonight as part of her Mothers Day present and to be honest I thought I would be looking forward to it despite not really being a fan. Could not care less right now, would prefer to stay home and catch up on Game Of Thrones episodes or work on my bike. My ride was cut short on the weekend with a puncture by having the wrong tube in my spares kit. The valve was too short for my bling wheels and had to call for a pick up.

@@blybo, lose yourself in the 80's with the Ballet tonight. I'm still kicking myself for not going to see them when they were in Sydney last Friday. Even though I wasn't a super fan I reckon that it will be one of those transcendent experiences that will leave you grinning and wondering if it's worthwhile visiting the local Vinnies to retro-update your wardrobe. We're all expecting a bit of a review, too, you know.

 

My congratulations on your ongoing discipline with the grog.

Review here http://www.stereo.net.au/forums/index.php?/topic/79530-spandau-ballet/?p=1356783

 

Had a very rushed dinner at our favourite Vietnamese restaurant last night on the way to the concert, just a diet coke for me. Thought after I'd ordered a beer might have been nice, but only for second. We basically decided what we would have before getting there and ordered without looking at the menu, in/out in 20 minutes.

 

Had another big veggie juice this morning, lifestyle habits are helping with mood I think but will fast tonight so I can get my blood test tomorrow morning.

lifestyle habits are helping with mood I think

 

 

Almost certainly. Well done. 

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Should have a monday arvo weigh in this week, will be happy if it is back to 94kg.

Will have to get a bit more serious about eating habits if I am to get below that.

Should have a monday arvo weigh in this week, will be happy if it is back to 94kg.

Will have to get a bit more serious about eating habits if I am to get below that.

 

You got me in your rear view mirror now Daz, I'm hitting 98kg neat now and further loss is hoped for!

 

Although 94kg might be pushing it for me as that's below 15 stone and I would of been in high school last time I weighed that much.

Going well Daz. YOu keep it up mate. I'm back down to 82, after flirting with 84 for a couple weeks. The new mood stabiliser I am on is helping the weight control. less puffy in the face etc as well. And I feel better on it - well apart from early this week when I wanted a bus to run me over, but that was sickness I think - there is a lurgy going around with sore throat, tiredness and headaches. Since I got CFS any little virus sends me for a six. Nevermind, a couple days off and I am back to form.

 

Today was spring cleaning day - our cleaner didn't come this week and I thought I would give the place a real clean top to bottom. Took apart sofas, washed all the sheets, and a couple more loads (always washing!) hung out the duvets, pillows and bed thingis, did all the vacuuming, cleaned the skirting board, bathrooms, floors and kitchen. Oh and dusted everything, including the books from the bookshelf (and we have ALOT of books). Am now officially buggered. Time to put the feet up, reach for a cranberry & soda (very nice non alcoholic drink btw) and have a listen to some streaming 102.5FM. 

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@@Luc you are going fantastic, another success story right there IMO. Ya big bastid, I wont give you any more cheek, haha! Correct me if I am wrong but I reckon around 94-95 would probably be a good healthy weight for you? I have no real need to go under 92, I reckon.

@ oh hell, hope you are feeling better soon mate. I had a big cleaning day today too, and fed the leather lounge etc, everything looks great. My partner is a neat-freak as well and she showed up a few weeks ago on a wet weekend with buckets and rags and sugar soap and we did the entire inside of the house, inc ceilings (exc floors, mopped them the next day) and I was very surprised at the improvement. I didn't think it would have made much difference but it really did and we will do it every 12 months from now on. I usually give the outside a scrub once a year but haven't ever worried about inside much.

There was no horizontal folk dancing that night. Straight to sleep, haha.

Yep, 95 is my new goal and if I get there I'll see what the body thinks about going further but we all know how hard those last few extra kgs areto move so I'm not expecting any quick improvement. My knees are rapidily detoriating and that's going to have an effect on my exercise routines.

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You take fish oil etc etc blah blah.

Know all about knees. Screeded many bridge decks. ;P

Now you guys have me thinking about what should be my end weight. I have been within 4kg of 120kg only once since the time that I reached and then surpassed that figure on the way up. Discussions with the surgeon were a bit vague when the setting of an end goal was mentioned. Probably just need to see what is comfortable for me to lose before any serious consideration is given to a number. I know that I'm now under the 140kg mark and am content to simply eat very little and see where I end up. What does concern me currently is the number of people who come up to me at work, I'm fairly high profile in a retail environment, and tell me how good I'm looking and after asking how I've done it reply to my explanation with comments along the line of, "I know someone who had that done a few years ago but they've started to put it on again".

 

I have even recently seen a doctor, a fairly roly-poly lady who, after asking about my recent medical history, replied that she had had the same surgery but was now putting on weight. It was the way she said it. Like it was the expected eventuality. WTF?

 

Any way that you look at it though, you chaps are all doing well. I applaud you.

I wouldn't worry about it Jukki, it is not inevitable that you will gain weight again. Your stomach is physically smaller, but that does not mean you can consume  highly calorific foods without consequence. But you know this. I am sure your specialist told you that surgery is part of the solution, but choice of diet and portion control is just as important. As are lifestyle changes.  If you lose discipline, and go back to eating inappropriately, you will gain weight. 

 

As for roly - poly doctors, there are a ton of them. Doctors are just people who went to university to study a course. They like everyone else have their own demons, addictions and day to day life issues, including weight issues (being sedentary perhaps more so). I wouldn't allow that particular doctor's experience define you. You can't catch what she has got. 

 

What is certain is absent the surgery and your commitment to weight loss your weight and the associated impact on your health would have been the dominating influence on the rest of your life. To take positive steps to address that is not only smart, but very very brave. Pat yourself on the back, and don't worry about things that have not come to pass.

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@JukKluk2    I know that I'm now under the 140kg mark and am content to simply eat very little and see where I end up.

 

You need to exercise as well. 3 years ago I was 125kg, I lost 10 kgs in two years by moderating what I eat and drink to a small degree but just stayed at the 115 mark but as you'd be aware I've  dragged myself down to 98 in almost exactly four months of dietary change(amount eaten) and exercise.

 

Your going to need to do exercise at a level that best suits you however limited that might be. You need to get some good cardio going to help burn off the excess. I think you'd be surprised just how easy it can become after sticking to a regular daily routine.

Thanks guys. Yes, it is all down to keeping the mind set, I know @. I was more reporting an unexpected set of responses than a dread of failure. In some ways a classic tall poppy syndrome knee-jerker, some people just have to respond with a negative, though entirely without malice as far as I can see. Just wasn't expect to hear that sort of thing come up quite so often.

 

As for exercise@@Luc, you are of course entirely correct. Given that my ankles are displaced due to all of that weight bearing down on them over the years I think that swimming is the one option for me. Making the time to do it is the thing. I'm the first to admit that if I'm not externally driven then it isn't going to happen.

 

Note to self - Must pull finger out!

I was more reporting an unexpected set of responses than a dread of failure

 

 

Oh that is just what people do. Go to the negative, or report their own failures as predictive of yours. Glad you haven't taken it to heart. 

 

For exercise, you might like to consider a water-rower like the one I posted early in the thread. It is non weight bearing, and very effective exercise. You can work hard or cruise along (as I mainly do) and still burn lots of calories - it's pretty easy to burn 500 calories in an hour, and I usually burn around 300 - 350 in an 1/2 hour (they have a calculator on an app). I rather enjoy the activity with a pair of IEM's and Spotify or Quboz. Usually I just stream a CD over my phone and by the time it is done, I'm done. My wife has even made up her own playlist for her work outs.

 

That said the caveat would be your displaced ankles. I don't find it puts much pressure on my ankles - mainly on the major muscle groups (esp legs, bottom and back).  Perhaps you may be able to try one locally.

 

For swimming may I suggest some small flippers - I routinely wear mine now I am older and I enjoy my swims more.  I am prone to rotator cuff injuries (tore each of them being sporty in my youth) and they stop re injuring myself. Plus you zip along.  And when I get tired I can actually do back-stroke or float on my back and kick, and not stand still. I love ocean swimming, and enjoy getting in for a dip in the summer months.

@@JukKluk2 try cycling. A mate of mine was around 150 when he started riding. In around 18 months he got down to around 95kg and is a stronger rider than me now although he is slightly obsessive about cycling[emoji15]. Cycling is great if you have a relatively short commute (under 15km) as you can get your exercise just getting to/from work so there is no real need to "find time", you just need to have a bit of organisation. When I had a regular commute, I used to take the car to work on a Monday with the bike and a weeks clothes and then not being the car home till Friday. Also meant I was forced into incidental exercise like walking to the supermarket. You probably know this but exercise for weight loss is quite low intensity so easy to achieve, if you are huffing and puffing, you are going too hard.

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I tried a rower two weeks ago while looking at the exercise bike I bought..killed my back(which is totally f'ed from 40 years of bobcat operating) so they certainly aren't for everyone.

Eventually I think I'm going to forgo my  pursuit of Diamonds(yet again) and purchase a pool heat pump so I can use the thing year round as pool exercising is so much easier on buggered joints and the 4 to 5 k initial cost would equal gym membership for a few years I reckon.

I tried a rower two weeks ago while looking at the exercise bike I bought..killed my back(which is totally f'ed from 40 years of bobcat operating) so they certainly aren't for everyone.

Eventually I think I'm going to forgo my  pursuit of Diamonds(yet again) and purchase a pool heat pump so I can use the thing year round as pool exercising is so much easier on buggered joints and the 4 to 5 k initial cost would equal gym membership for a few years I reckon.

 

I feel for your loss. Listening to Diamonds whilst enduring chronic pain v. effective daily relief should be a no-brainer calculation shouldn't it? But, somehow, it seems a hard choice some days.

I tried a rower two weeks ago while looking at the exercise bike I bought..killed my back(which is totally f'ed from 40 years of bobcat operating) so they certainly aren't for everyone.

Eventually I think I'm going to forgo my  pursuit of Diamonds(yet again) and purchase a pool heat pump so I can use the thing year round as pool exercising is so much easier on buggered joints and the 4 to 5 k initial cost would equal gym membership for a few years I reckon.

 

@@blybo, an idea worthy of consideration I must say. I'm only 3k from work but there are a couple of not inconsiderable climbs involved, at least for a beginner, that would stretch me. Might have to make a trip to our storage shed in Canberra and look at resurrecting the treadly that is gathering dust and cobwebs there.

 

Thanks for that.

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