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Acoustic treatment - Verbox panels

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Looking at what might be the final piece in my 4-year journey to set up my HiFi/Home Theatre room.

 

I'm still not fully satisfied with the music performance and definitely need some acoustic treatment.

 

In my search, I came across Verbox panels—they’re much more affordable than similar diffuser and absorber products.

 

Has anyone used their products? I'd appreciate any feedback.

 

https://verbox.com.au/products

You are asking the wrong question. The question you should be asking is NOT "is this a good product?" but rather "is this an appropriate product for me?". 

 

Do not buy any room treatment without proper measurement of your room and knowledge of what you are doing. You are likely to severely mess it all up. I can guarantee that if you simply plonk acoustic products in your room and experiment via trial and error, you will waste a lot of time and money and you will rarely get a satisfactory result. It might even be worse than no treatment at all. 

 

Very broadly, this is what needs to be done for a good result: 

 

Step 1: Do an acoustic sweep of the room and identify what the problem frequencies are, what needs attenuating, and what doesn't. Decide on your target. Understand that some goals are simply not achievable with acoustic treatment and that other tools are needed (e.g. DSP). 

Step 2: Decide which product, how many you need, and where you need to place them. 

Step 3: Buy and install, then re-measure to confirm you have achieved your target. 

 

All 3 steps are potentially achievable by amateurs who have a keen interest and are willing to learn. But it will take you months to acquire all the knowledge that you need as well as climb the REW learning curve. 

 

So for you, your first decision should be: do you want to embark on this journey, or do you want to pay money for a professional? 

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16 minutes ago, Keith_W said:

So for you, your first decision should be: do you want to embark on this journey, or do you want to pay money for a professional?

 

I have done a fair bit of study of the room over the last few years. And 80 to 90% sure on what the issues are how I can rectify them.

Need a bunch of low end absorption and mid to high diffusion. Verbose has the products to achieve them, Wanted to know a feedback on the quality of the panels.

 

Hi NH, Keith is right and the investment is only about $200.  I have had the same discussions with Keith and others over the last few months.  But knowing your room is also important.  And the quality of the product is also important.

i stents months, probably years crawling and walking around my room getting to know it and thought I had a good idea of what I needed when I started this journey, and was asking similar questions, with similar feedback.  In the end, I succumb to the pressure, bought a device and started measuring, bought a pack of panels and hung them up, pretty much where I always thought I would put them, remeasured and pretty close to the desired effect.  But had lots of questions along the way, and believe Keith and I, it is a journey, and a painful journey.  Now, I make changes, move panels around etc, listen, see if I like the SQ, and measure to see what the measurable difference is, and I can only understand some of the graphs.  So I do now think it’s a good idea to measure.

but to your question.  I originally bought a box a Primacoustic panels, WW name in the industry, and the absorption co efficient has been tested and available on the internet.  I was warned of their quality by the supplier anywho suggested I look at the Soundbox panels.  I found some things the Primacoustic panels I did not like.  I did not like the way they were hung on the wall, I thought if you move them around to much, they will get messy, than always hard to resell with holes in the back of the panels.  The fabric was not folded on the four corners, but cut at 45 deg and glued.  The glue was not the best and some corners were lifting, as well as the fabric was lifting from the rear of the panels.  Several panels had a damaged corner also.  Anyway, the supplier accepted a return, and I bought the Soundbox panels.  The Soundbox panels are probably not as effective from the advertised absorption co efficient according to the specs, but they are so much better made.  They have a alloy frame all the way around the outside, the fabric is folded nicely in the corners, and the mounting system I much prefer, Velcro, I can peel them away and move if I need to.  I have also seen photos of the Selby panels with the corners looking similar to the Primacoustic ones.

my system and room now sound pretty good, but I think I got the biggest gains from

1. a subwoofer, the speaker placement.  The addition bass from the subwoofer allowed me to move my speakers away from the wall, I now get far greater clarity and definition, and bass.

2. isoacoustic speaker feet - very noticeable difference in my room

new interconnects

3. Panels.  I have four absorption panels on my back wall, and am now experimenting with diffusion behind the speakers and at the first reflection point.

 

the four panels provided an acceptable SQ, but adding diffusion to the first reflection point pretty much lifted the entire SQ across the spectrum, but sounded better,  hence the journey

 

best of luck

 

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3 hours ago, JkSpinner said:

the investment is only about $200

Thanks @JkSpinner. Sorry I did not get this part.

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