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Peter M's build

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No, entry is via a door in the wall of the theatre that's adjacent to the house.  If you look at the door photos you'll see there's two of them, one in the house structure and one in the garage / theatre structure.  The door frames were installed with just a small gap separating them which is silicone sealed, so as you pass through you don't notice the building joint. 

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21 hours ago, Peter WM said:

Solman,

 

There are three different types of wall panels which were placed by the acoustic designer.

 

I made all the panels using timber frames, fibreglass insulation, heavy plastic sheet and fabric wrap.

 

One of the panel types uses Quest AI Perfsorber which is a perforated high density fibreglass, manufactured in Dandenong under license by Acoustic Vision. 

 

Cheers,

Peter

Do you have any more photos on the panels you built? Or details such as the insulation you used. I got where you purchased the material.

 

Hope you dont mind me using your design, Just love the finish you achieved with them. Also with them being a DIY project im hoping it will keep the cost low.

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Sorry no more photos.  Everything I have is already shown above.

 

As well as the 50mm thick Perfsorber that I got from Acoustic Vision, the panels also used 25mm thick fibreglass in 24kg and 48kg density.  This can be purchased from any commercial insulation supplier.

 

Whilst the making of the panels is relatively easy DIY, the hard part is the acoustic design to figure out what panels types are required and where to put them.

 

If you go to the AVS forum there are relatively inexpensive design services available specifically tailed to DIY builders.

 

Cheers,

Peter

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Do you know Sketchup at all ?

 

Happy to send you my 3D model if you can send me a PM with your email.

 

Cheers,

Peter

Meh, not bad, you do seem to have taken quite a few shortcuts though.....:wub::wub::wub: :lol::lol::lol:

 

Beautiful stuff, nice work with the door isolation too, did a job for a guy who set up a music room in an inner city apartment, same principle with the inner doors being isolated from the outer ones in separate frames. Worked really well.

 

  • 1 month later...

Peter that room is Amazing.  I have had water damage in my Home Theater room which is inspiring me to redo the room as it is a bit dated.  I am contacting Shawn for his DIY service.   The problem is I'm using an existing room (smallish) which has a solid concrete slab ceiling with only 1 lighting fixture. 

 

For your lighting how many lighting points did you need?   I assume you can't branch of the 1 ceiling light I have and then branch of to create different zones?  IE pelmet downlights, soffit (bulkhead) rope lights, etc?

 

Also does Shawn give you the complete plans and you can just follow them?  Are they indepth enough to show what dimensions everything needs to be within the room ie. bulkheads etc?

 

Thanks,

Spero

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Hi Spero,

 

I have 7 different lighting circuits in the room - front / centre 1 / centre 2/ centre 3 / rear / side / rope.

 

If you have one circuit in the room and want multiple zones, it can probably be done with something like this - wireless light bulb

 

I dealt with Dennis direct for my design and it was done before the lower cost DIY service was available, so I'm not sure what documentation you would receive.  I certainly got very detailed plans and heaps of email support.

 

Cheers,

Peter

  • 2 weeks later...
On 3/31/2018 at 9:08 PM, Spizz said:

Peter that room is Amazing.  I have had water damage in my Home Theater room which is inspiring me to redo the room as it is a bit dated.  I am contacting Shawn for his DIY service.   The problem is I'm using an existing room (smallish) which has a solid concrete slab ceiling with only 1 lighting fixture. 

 

For your lighting how many lighting points did you need?   I assume you can't branch of the 1 ceiling light I have and then branch of to create different zones?  IE pelmet downlights, soffit (bulkhead) rope lights, etc?

 

Also does Shawn give you the complete plans and you can just follow them?  Are they indepth enough to show what dimensions everything needs to be within the room ie. bulkheads etc?

 

Thanks,

Spero

I solved this issue by using an array of kitchen cabinet lights, 25mm thick, which went in 50mm thick acoustic panels on the ceiling.

 

Shawn's plans are good. You'll get the full AT plan and if you ask nicely he'll give you drawings for riser and stage.

 

If you want / need bulkheads he'll specify them. But be warned, each additional drawing comes at a cost, which is fair enough given the time involved. So you might start at $x,000, but I'd budget for some contingency. Shawn doesn't hold your hand though (unless you pay him) so don't expect loads of free email support.

 

Like Dennis, he's a little bit "my way of the highway" but this is for good reason in most instances. Both are particularly sensitive around equipment recommendations, which I found frustrating, but if you accept some responsibility for changing what they suggest then that's ok. Several instances on AVS where people have not taken the advice (knowingly) and then pointed fingers when it has blown up

 

I solved this issue by using an array of kitchen cabinet lights, 25mm thick, which went in 50mm thick acoustic panels on the ceiling.
 
Shawn's plans are good. You'll get the full AT plan and if you ask nicely he'll give you drawings for riser and stage.
 
If you want / need bulkheads he'll specify them. But be warned, each additional drawing comes at a cost, which is fair enough given the time involved. So you might start at $x,000, but I'd budget for some contingency. Shawn doesn't hold your hand though (unless you pay him) so don't expect loads of free email support.
 
Like Dennis, he's a little bit "my way of the highway" but this is for good reason in most instances. Both are particularly sensitive around equipment recommendations, which I found frustrating, but if you accept some responsibility for changing what they suggest then that's ok. Several instances on AVS where people have not taken the advice (knowingly) and then pointed fingers when it has blown up
 
hi Peter the greek, or peter number 2 :D

who did you use for your design? I have been reading your build thread on avs for the past few weeks now, when i manage to get 5mins to myself lol but i have yet come across on who you chose to design your room.

I also wanted to say thank you for documenting your build in such detail, just have to skip all the glacial speed sledging :D

I myself am considering to use dennis for my design, but im probably going to go with his "basic" design due to budget reasons.
12 hours ago, solman said:

hi Peter the greek, or peter number 2 :D

who did you use for your design? I have been reading your build thread on avs for the past few weeks now, when i manage to get 5mins to myself lol but i have yet come across on who you chose to design your room.

I also wanted to say thank you for documenting your build in such detail, just have to skip all the glacial speed sledging :D

I myself am considering to use dennis for my design, but im probably going to go with his "basic" design due to budget reasons.

Thanks! I need to go back through either AVS or add the build process pics to my SNA thread as photobucket has ruined it all....

 

I used Shawn and would likely do so again if I was on a budget. I changed a few things and made some of the treatments "my own" e.g. the columns, but I did that with a pretty reasonable knowledge base so I was fairly confident I'd be happy with the end result, and I was. I only say I'd use Shawn again because if I was building from scratch again, it'd be Atmos, which I have zero knowledge of. Otherwise I'd likely just DIY.....having been in PeterM's room, seen his build process, gone through it myself, and been involved in 3 other builds I'm reasonably confident in my ability to get it right

 

If we had the coin I'd bypass Dennis and use Keith.....but that's sort of like "need to win powerball" scenario.....I  have rather grandiose dreams of building a stand alone pavilion on our place in the same spec as Rob Hahn's room - just with DIY speakers (LOL, I can imagine that conversation with Keith....it'd last all of 5 seconds I imagine)

 

At the end of the day, you can read my AVS thread, read Sound Reproduction, read Absorbers and Diffusers, read Ted's soundproofing website, and I reckon you'd get a pretty good result. But the good thing about using Shawn is its a cheap way to "double check" all that. Considering it might cost say $20-40k to build and treat such a room (equipment on top of that), I reckon a few thousand tossed at Shawn is money well spent. Remember, he's Dennis' protege 

Thanks! I need to go back through either AVS or add the build process pics to my SNA thread as photobucket has ruined it all....
 
I used Shawn and would likely do so again if I was on a budget. I changed a few things and made some of the treatments "my own" e.g. the columns, but I did that with a pretty reasonable knowledge base so I was fairly confident I'd be happy with the end result, and I was. I only say I'd use Shawn again because if I was building from scratch again, it'd be Atmos, which I have zero knowledge of. Otherwise I'd likely just DIY.....having been in PeterM's room, seen his build process, gone through it myself, and been involved in 3 other builds I'm reasonably confident in my ability to get it right
 
If we had the coin I'd bypass Dennis and use Keith.....but that's sort of like "need to win powerball" scenario.....I  have rather grandiose dreams of building a stand alone pavilion on our place in the same spec as Rob Hahn's room - just with DIY speakers (LOL, I can imagine that conversation with Keith....it'd last all of 5 seconds I imagine)
 
At the end of the day, you can read my AVS thread, read Sound Reproduction, read Absorbers and Diffusers, read Ted's soundproofing website, and I reckon you'd get a pretty good result. But the good thing about using Shawn is its a cheap way to "double check" all that. Considering it might cost say $20-40k to build and treat such a room (equipment on top of that), I reckon a few thousand tossed at Shawn is money well spent. Remember, he's Dennis' protege 
Yeah photo bucket did ruin it, i would have gotten through your entire thread by now if i didnt have to fight off the thousands of adds [emoji19]

Yeah i have been reading up a fair bit and even though i feel pretty confident, im sure i would miss something, hence why im going to get someone to look over it.

"Remember, he's Dennis' protege "

Ahhh i knew that Shawn worked for him i didn't know that he went on his own. Do you have a contact or a website of his? I have no idea who is Keith or Rob Hahn [emoji23] but ill do a search
28 minutes ago, solman said:

Ahhh i knew that Shawn worked for him i didn't know that he went on his own. Do you have a contact or a website of his? I have no idea who is Keith or Rob Hahn emoji23.png but ill do a search

Just PM Shawn on AVS.

 

....oh dear, you've not seem this? (Keith as in Yates)

Just PM Shawn on AVS.
 
....oh dear, you've not seem this? (Keith as in Yates)
Thanks

And wow!! His projector room is bigger then most people's actual media/theater room!!

I dont think powerball is gonna be enough to build that [emoji23]
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Decided I should resurrect my old thread and add some updates.  Over the past 12 months or so I've slowly (almost) completed the upgrade to Atmos and 4K. 

 

New processor is the Marantz 7704, blu-ray is the Sony X800, and projector is the Epson 9300.  Also added another Xilica EQ and Powersoft amp for the Atmos speakers.  Speaker wiring is in - the only thing left to do is to install the 4 new Procella P5iW speakers.  The ceiling baffle is going to make this quite a challenge !

 

I've also finally automated on/off for all the amps using this IP controlled relay board -

 

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which I mounted like this -

 

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I ditched the Popcorn Hour A-400 that I used for watching concert rips and listening to multi-channel music rips, and replaced it with an Intel NUC and JRiver MC.

 

Also added an Amazon FireTV Stick.

 

And of course having moved from iRule over to Demopad for control the previous year, much reprogramming was required for all the changes !!

 

Cheers,

Peter

 

 

Hi Peter - I've only been on SNA for a short time and definitely must've missed your build thread until you added this post today.

 

I was blown away by your build! It is the stuff of dreams. 

 

Thanks for sharing ?

How did I miss this, beautiful room!

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Wow, sensational room.

  • 4 months later...

Hi Peter

 

Would you mind telling us where you got the optical projector porthole please?

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Thanks

 

4 hours ago, Peter WM said:

I made the porthole out of some MDF and glass from Edmund Optics -

 

        https://www.edmundoptics.com.au/f/anti-reflection-ar-coated-high-efficiency-windows/12261/

 

Cheers,

Peter

Cool. A few more questions if I may:

 

Is it like an MDF window frame that is the same width as the wall with 1 pane of that glass slotted into it?

Is the glass slotted into the frame aligned vertically with the wall (straight) or at an angle?

Did you make it so that the frame can slide out of the wall or seal it in place?

 

Thanks

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A couple of snapshots from the Sketchup model -

 

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The top has a slot through which the glass is inserted.  The sides and bottom have routed grooves.  The whole porthole slides in and out of the wall opening and isn't sealed in place.

 

Cheers,

Peter

16 hours ago, Peter WM said:

A couple of snapshots from the Sketchup model -

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The top has a slot through which the glass is inserted.  The sides and bottom have routed grooves.  The whole porthole slides in and out of the wall opening and isn't sealed in place.

 

Cheers,

Peter

Awesome. Thanks heaps.

 

I really need to learn Sketchup.

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  • 1 month later...

How did I miss this thread. Makes me want to start again with my room!

Congratulations on a stunning room, and thanks for sharing.

On 13/12/2019 at 7:51 AM, Peter WM said:

Decided I should resurrect my old thread and add some updates.....

Sensational project. What would you suggest for a complete budget to replicate your dedicated build, with all equipment and full install all done professionally?

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That's incredibly hard to answer as I did so much of it myself.

 

Assuming the space was existing, and built with normal residential construction, then I'd not expect much left from $200k.

 

Cheers,

Peter

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