emh101 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Just a quick link to the latest article regarding the new Pioneer tvs. No doubt there will be more detail soon on the dedicated AV sites. http://news.smh.com.au/pioneer-develops-th...80107-1ki8.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elisiX Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Interesting read. Looks like we wont see this until sometime next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockel Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I'll take the thin one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STiScott Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 "the display is so black that even when it is on with no image displayed, the television is invisible when you walk into a completely dark room". I love concept sound of this screen. Although the 127cm, 19mm thick LCD sounds sweet also. Regarding the Plasma though. If it's "THAT" black how will hold up in watching something like that during daylight hours. WOuld it be able to emit enough light to be viewable in well lit room (just thinking out loud here). All the same i want one. I'm already getting used to my 58" Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgierogie Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I love concept sound of this screen. Although the 127cm, 19mm thick LCD sounds sweet also.Regarding the Plasma though. If it's "THAT" black how will hold up in watching something like that during daylight hours. WOuld it be able to emit enough light to be viewable in well lit room (just thinking out loud here). All the same i want one. I'm already getting used to my 58" Cheers all new panasonic plasmas http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/store...atGroupId=30531 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djOS Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Nice, long live plasma!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redav Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 all new panasonic plasmashttp://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/store...atGroupId=30531 Interesting... they don't mention 24p though... wonder if they've included it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STiScott Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Interesting... they don't mention 24p though... wonder if they've included it. I do find that a bit strange myself. Although arnt there some panels out there that do 1080/24p playback, but advertise it, as it's seen as part and parcel (though i wouldnt have thought so). They advertise there Blu-ray players as such though . Those new 2008 plasmas do look nice though from teh basic specs listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djOS Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Interesting... they don't mention 24p though... wonder if they've included it. my Pio 50MXE20 Plasma supports 24p now. No mention of it in the manual tho but my BD player sends 24p perfectly and the display agrees that it is receiving and displaying 24p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gino Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Regarding the Plasma though. If it's "THAT" black how will hold up in watching something like that during daylight hours. WOuld it be able to emit enough light to be viewable in well lit room (just thinking out loud here). That plasma sounds like my next television for sure. Looks like my 60" 1080p Kuro will only be around for another 18 months. I'd say that definitely they would have addressed day time viewing, otherwise what's the point? I believe they mentioned the bat cave viewing to illustrate just how black, anything lighter will wash out the superb black level cabapility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I must be one of only a few people who want a 70” plus screen, 58”-60” just does not cut it. I remember when a 60” Plasma cost $40k, so a 70”-80” for the same or less is not too much to ask for these days. What ever happened to “high end” products? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STiScott Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I must be one of only a few people who want a 70" plus screen, 58"-60" just does not cut it.I remember when a 60" Plasma cost $40k, so a 70"-80" for the same or less is not too much to ask for these days. What ever happened to "high end" products? I would love a 70"-80" plasma. It would be perfect for filling out the cabinet (left->right). I remeber when the first 40-42" were going for close to $30k. You do have that insane 103" Pana , what is something like $120k isnt it. Now there is a premium for you. Who knows maybe in another 3yrs the 80" will be the price of the 58-63" segment is now. Similar trend to what 42" screens were, what 3-4yrs ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emh101 Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 I love concept sound of this screen. Although the 127cm, 19mm thick LCD sounds sweet also.Regarding the Plasma though. If it's "THAT" black how will hold up in watching something like that during daylight hours. WOuld it be able to emit enough light to be viewable in well lit room (just thinking out loud here). All the same i want one. I'm already getting used to my 58" Cheers During daylight the new screen is so black that it is able to replicate the effect of a black hole and sucks in all surround light and sound. Now what about that for a marketing pitch :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emh101 Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 (edited) I must be one of only a few people who want a 70†plus screen, 58â€-60†just does not cut it.I remember when a 60†Plasma cost $40k, so a 70â€-80†for the same or less is not too much to ask for these days. What ever happened to “high end†products? Owen if you can afford a 70" screen can you please shout me a Pioneer 50" please. Any one of the two new ones please. I'm not fussy :-) Edited January 7, 2008 by emh101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajax9000 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 (edited) Who knows maybe in another 3yrs the 80" will be the price of the 58-63" segment is now. Similar trend to what 42" screens were, what 3-4yrs ago. Back in may there was an announcement that Hitachi and Panasonic had agreed to cross-supply each other with v.large plasmas -- Panasonic to supply Hitachi with 103-inch PDPs in fiscal 2007 & Hitachi to supply Panasonic with 85-inch PDPs in fiscal 2008. So hopefully late 2008 or early 2009 will see 85" screens become fairly widely available ... unless they make it to market in tiny quantities like the 71" screens did. Edited January 7, 2008 by Ajax9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eazy Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Oh My. http://gizmodo.com/341199/pioneer-unveils-...rast-super-thin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danere Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 And this for a comparison of now-KURO vs tomorrow-KURO: http://gizmodo.com/341434/battlemodo-pione...v-ever-and-wins Strangely though it seems they've chosen to compare the lower-end current KURO (which I believe has a 15000:1 ratio vs 20000:1 of the LX series) against the prototype with "unlimited" contrast. I suppose they were really going for the 'wow' factor here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypnotoad1503559952 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 More pics of the 9mm concept panel: http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/hands-o...ck-kuro-plasma/ Looks more like a picture in a frame than a TV And more press on the extreme contrast model: http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/07/hands-o...concept-plasma/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perdition Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I want one. *nods* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glider Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Back in may there was an announcement that Hitachi and Panasonic had agreed to cross-supply each other with v.large plasmas -- Panasonic to supply Hitachi with 103-inch PDPs in fiscal 2007 & Hitachi to supply Panasonic with 85-inch PDPs in fiscal 2008. So hopefully late 2008 or early 2009 will see 85" screens become fairly widely available ... unless they make it to market in tiny quantities like the 71" screens did. Actually, no. 103 divided by two = 2 x 50 inch panels. 85 divided by two = 2 x 42 inch panels. This way Panasonic can close down 42 inch panel production lines which are decreasing in sales volume and replace them with full HD production lines which are increasing in sales. Hitachi gets to sell more of its ALIS panels which have a vertical line resolution of 1080, better than Panasonic's 768 line panels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 And this for a comparison of now-KURO vs tomorrow-KURO:http://gizmodo.com/341434/battlemodo-pione...v-ever-and-wins Strangely though it seems they've chosen to compare the lower-end current KURO (which I believe has a 15000:1 ratio vs 20000:1 of the LX series) against the prototype with "unlimited" contrast. I suppose they were really going for the 'wow' factor here. The LX Pioneer is better then the XDA but blacks are definitely not black. People got all excited about the Kuro because it was the first flat panel to even get close to black, everything else is just worse. My old CRT RPTV was really black, just like the prototype Pioneer, none of that glow that continues to plague digital TV’s. If Pioneer can provide a display with blacks as good as the prototype without sacrificing performance in other areas they really will have a fine product. Next thing is to make them in big sizes like 80”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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