FMB Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Some time ago, my subwoofer died. I told my wife I wanted to replace it and she said "You can replace all the speakers". Now some would see this as a fantastic opportunity. Wrong! When she said replace the speakers, she meant with little ones because the ones there now are too big. So we go looking for a set of small speakers and end up picking up these JBL ones for a bargain price. Not exactly those ones, but they look the same. I spend most of Sunday mounting the speakers on the wall and running new speaker cable. Now of course I'm in trouble because removing the old speakers has left big gaps (can't have that). But that's not really the point of this post. I have been unable to listen to movies etc in true DD or DTS through my Pioneer VSX-D811S AVR so I decide to do some experimenting while everything was in pieces. My new PS3 is connected to my LG LCD via HDMI. The TV is connected to the AVR via optical. After reading an obscure section of the Pioneer manual for the 10th time, I realise that the amp will only decode DD and DTS when the input is DVD/LD. I swap the optical inputs and update my Harmony remote accordingly. I then play a DVD on the PS3 and it only shows up as Prologic. I swap the cable back and test playing the DVD through the DVD player and sure enough, its DD. The question is, where is it falling down? Is the PS3 not outputting DD or DTS to the TV via HDMI or is the TV not passing DD/DTS out to the amp via the optical? Should I re-adjust everything so I send audio out of the PS3 to the Pioneer using an optical cable plugged in to the DVD/LD port on the Pioneer and send the video only to the TV via HDMI? As a side note, the JBL speakers actually sound better than the DTX brand speakers I had there. I left the two Wharfedale rears in place and added one of the spare JBL's as a surround back speaker for 6.1. The JBL's were $841 at DSE but I got them for $740 from Clive Anthony's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewW Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Should I re-adjust everything so I send audio out of the PS3 to the Pioneer using an optical cable plugged in to the DVD/LD port on the Pioneer and send the video only to the TV via HDMI? That would be the first thing I would try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Kazz Posted October 22, 2007 Volunteer Share Posted October 22, 2007 That would be the first thing I would try. I have to agree, my Pana 42" plasma will send dd etc from the inbuilt tuner to the avr via optical but not send it out to the avr from anything plugged into the plasma. Cheers, Karen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMB Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 I guess my starting point is to rip the optical cable from the TV, plug it into the PS3, re-configure it to output audio via optical and test it. If it works, then I'll have to go through the painful process of re-arranging everything and updating the remote. That's something to look forward to...not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMB Posted October 22, 2007 Author Share Posted October 22, 2007 I guess my starting point is to rip the optical cable from the TV, plug it into the PS3, re-configure it to output audio via optical and test it.If it works, then I'll have to go through the painful process of re-arranging everything and updating the remote. That's something to look forward to...not. It worked. I think it was the first time I've actually seen the words DOLBY DIGITAL scroll across the screen of the Pioneer. Before heading to bed last night, a movie started on the new 7 HD channel so I switched the amp back to Standard and sure enough, Dolby Digital. Kazz was right. The HDMI input doesn't pass DD out through the optical to the AVR but does output DD from the HD tuner. Now for the painful process of re-configuring everything. What fun that will be. Wish me luck folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fawlty99 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Some time ago, my subwoofer died. I told my wife I wanted to replace it and she said "You can replace all the speakers". Now some would see this as a fantastic opportunity. Wrong! When she said replace the speakers, she meant with little ones because the ones there now are too big. I was about to comment on the luck you have on the wife-front until reading the second line! What is it with some women (including mine to a lesser extent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewW Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 glad to hear you got it working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMB Posted October 23, 2007 Author Share Posted October 23, 2007 I was about to comment on the luck you have on the wife-front until reading the second line! What is it with some women (including mine to a lesser extent). Yes, well. I mounted the JBL's up high on the wall either side of a window and now they're (apparently) a bit 'in your face'. When I got home yesterday, the wall had been rearranged and all available gaps filled with side tables etc. The PS3 had been laid flat on the bottom shelf which is OK because the remote is bluetooth. The subwoofer had been moved to the other side and lifted off the floor onto a small side table. Not sure how effective that will be. What annoys me the most is that my HT gear occupies very little space while her collection of over 100 collectible bears, countless novels (including the entire set of Danielle Steele novels), hundreds of craft magazines and two entire bedrooms full of sewing machines, craft stuff etc. isn't even a consideration. Worse still, there was an Ikea catalogue and paper on the coffee table. This is gonna get expensive. All I wanted was a new sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curious Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Yes, well. I mounted the JBL's up high on the wall either side of a window and now they're (apparently) a bit 'in your face'. When I got home yesterday, the wall had been rearranged and all available gaps filled with side tables etc. The PS3 had been laid flat on the bottom shelf which is OK because the remote is bluetooth. The subwoofer had been moved to the other side and lifted off the floor onto a small side table. Not sure how effective that will be.What annoys me the most is that my HT gear occupies very little space while her collection of over 100 collectible bears, countless novels (including the entire set of Danielle Steele novels), hundreds of craft magazines and two entire bedrooms full of sewing machines, craft stuff etc. isn't even a consideration. Worse still, there was an Ikea catalogue and paper on the coffee table. This is gonna get expensive. All I wanted was a new sub. Time to take your Cohones from the jar on the mantle piece and claw back your share of the house matey Cheers, Curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutty Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Yes, well. I mounted the JBL's up high on the wall either side of a window and now they're (apparently) a bit 'in your face'. When I got home yesterday, the wall had been rearranged and all available gaps filled with side tables etc. The PS3 had been laid flat on the bottom shelf which is OK because the remote is bluetooth. The subwoofer had been moved to the other side and lifted off the floor onto a small side table. Not sure how effective that will be. You gotta get some hand dude ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Kazz Posted October 23, 2007 Volunteer Share Posted October 23, 2007 Time to take your Cohones from the jar on the mantle piece and claw back your share of the house matey Cheers, Curious Couldn't agree more and I'm a girl. The sub is not gonna sound good on the table Cheers, Karen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BugPowderDust Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I told my wife she can buy whatever she wants but gets no say in the cars we buy or the stereo / AV gear we install. That's dude's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Kazz Posted October 23, 2007 Volunteer Share Posted October 23, 2007 no say in the cars we buy or the stereo / AV gear we install.That's dude's work. Oi I resemble that remark! :ph34r: Cheers, Karen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewW Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Oi I resemble that remark! :ph34r: Stop nicking my lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer Kazz Posted October 23, 2007 Volunteer Share Posted October 23, 2007 Stop nicking my lines But it's such a good one. Cheers, Karen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMB Posted October 23, 2007 Author Share Posted October 23, 2007 Time to take your Cohones from the jar on the mantle piece and claw back your share of the house matey Cheers, Curious That jar got buried behind her stuff 28 years ago. Wouldn't even know where to start looking for it. Still, I no complain. It's all about negotiation and I'm an expert negotiator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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