37in Lcds - Whats Out There?

[Struggo]

Bought Philips 37PF9631 for $1900 from Myers a couple of weeks ago and I'm very pleased with the PQ.

This is the link where they do comparisons for 37" LCD. http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/UAN/1038/v/1/sp/

Oh btw.... Avoid DSE LCD if you can. I used to own 1 for 2 days...then I exchanged it for LG 37LC2D...I was still unhappy with the SD quality of LG as I mainly watchig Foxtel. I then returned the LG for a refund and got Philips from Myers . Nothing beats DSE 14 days exchange/refund policy

Hi bajaiman,

How is the Philips going. Great looking set I reckon. I want to get this set or an Hitachi 37".

How does Fox look on your Philips? Are you running component?

Cheers

Struggo

[dobbo]

Yeah I like the look of the Philips but unfortunately I'm in the same situation as oak with a maximum width of 960mm which makes the Philips too wide.

I'm waiting for a decent unit to get to the $1300 mark. The Acer and Viewsonic are at about that range now so I'd appreciate feedback from any owners of these. I've ruled out the DSE and Pyrod based on feedback on these forums.

[bajaiman]

Hi bajaiman,

How is the Philips going. Great looking set I reckon. I want to get this set or an Hitachi 37".

How does Fox look on your Philips? Are you running component?

Cheers

Struggo

Oi Struggo... the Philips has been going great. I looked at hitachi ($1699 from binglee) and I think it was only hooked up with just anologue tuner so that just put me off from buying it. I also had a chance to look at hitachi 8800 series, that one was significantly better than the one I saw at binglee. I'm not quite sure how this compare to Philips as I didn't see them side by side.

I really like Philips digital natural motion. It makes the picture more 'life like' and as if its been filmed by expensive DV Cam. I don't know how to explain this any better but if you look at the philips long enough you'd know what I mean by more 'life like' compared to other LCDs. Foxtel on the philips looks good coz of the digital natural motion, still not as good as the FTA PQ tho ... damn Foxtel ...

I'm running SCART to SCART from my foxtel as Philips has only 1 component input and I'm reserving that for my component switcher (Wii and Xbox 360)

[CAP1]

bought sharp about 1 week ago for $ 1850 @ Myer.

check all the shop in sydney best price they give was $2000 - $2100 + shiping cost to your place about $45

so far TV serve me well. Although I Have not play alot with all the color setting etc.

[Peterap]

bought sharp about 1 week ago for $ 1850 @ Myer.

check all the shop in sydney best price they give was $2000 - $2100 + shiping cost to your place about $45

so far TV serve me well. Although I Have not play alot with all the color setting etc.

Hi, I've just joined tonight, so am new to this game!

I, too, am in the market for a true HD (1920 X 1080P) 94cm LCD TV. From my research, the Philips 37PF9731/69 with 3ms response time is a fantastic set according to CNet, but it apparently lacks 1080P input for Blu-ray. The Hitachi 37LD9800TA supports 1080P and has a wonderful picture and a motorised swivel base, but only has native resolution of 1366 X 768 and a response time of 8ms. I'm not fussed about having an inbuilt HD tuner, as I plan to add a HD 250Mb PVR to it. I am also limited in width to about 1100mm, so units with permanent side speakers, such as the Acer AT 3705-DTV are out.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should be looking for, please, as far as the TV and the PVR are concerned?

[PanaSung]

Hi, I've just joined tonight, so am new to this game!

I, too, am in the market for a true HD (1920 X 1080P) 94cm LCD TV.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should be looking for, please, as far as the TV and the PVR are concerned?

I don't think Australia sell any True HD panels@37inches.

1080 is over-rated on such a small screen anyway.

Don't forget that Bray will cost you 25% of your viewable screen{stupid aspect ratio}, so you might not get the WOW factor on such a modest screen size{Bray will still look better than other HD because it has a higher bitrate}

[Peterap]

I don't think Australia sell any True HD panels@37inches.

1080 is over-rated on such a small screen anyway.

Don't forget that Bray will cost you 25% of your viewable screen{stupid aspect ratio}, so you might not get the WOW factor on such a modest screen size{Bray will still look better than other HD because it has a higher bitrate}

Thanks for the reply, PanaSung. Please pardon my ignorance, but is the Bray aspect ratio fixed at say, 2.35:1 or 1.85:1 as per movies, or is it selectable, depending upon the brand of player? Also, sorry about my typo! I meant of course 250Gb for the PVR. 250Mb wouldn't go far! I currently have a Wintal SD X10A PVR which I find works very well, but am looking to upgrade that, too. I also have a Teac and a Tevion SD STB, neither of which have given me any problems.

[PanaSung]

Thanks for the reply, PanaSung. Please pardon my ignorance, but is the Bray aspect ratio fixed at say, 2.35:1 or 1.85:1 as per movies, or is it selectable, depending upon the brand of player? .

Unfortunately I think it's generally 2.35......you'll have options to zoom/fill, but it will probably cock up the image to some degree, IOW, where possible always watch stuff in it's OAR{original aspect ratio}......trouble is, you have a space limitation, cause generally speaking, anyone who just wants to watch HDTV, DVD, HD-DVD can grab 50inch plasma's for less than 3k and live happily ever after{or 3 yr 4months, which ever comes first}.

LCD's have their place and their advantages, but unless you want a small and mobile TV that you'll also use as a PC desktop, you want 50in Plasma....but how are we gonna fit a 50 into 1100mm?

So a 40inch 720p LCD or a 1080 M81 with it's very high contrast ratio might do the trick.....that said, M81 is having a problem fixed and also has a temporary "Movie plus" drama.

My advice is to have a read and resist the urge to rush out and buy a HDTV just yet.

I record HDTV to my PC, so I know nothing about standalone PVR's sorry.

[Peterap]

Unfortunately I think it's generally 2.35......you'll have options to zoom/fill, but it will probably cock up the image to some degree, IOW, where possible always watch stuff in it's OAR{original aspect ratio}......trouble is, you have a space limitation, cause generally speaking, anyone who just wants to watch HDTV, DVD, HD-DVD can grab 50inch plasma's for less than 3k and live happily ever after{or 3 yr 4months, which ever comes first}.

LCD's have their place and their advantages, but unless you want a small and mobile TV that you'll also use as a PC desktop, you want 50in Plasma....but how are we gonna fit a 50 into 1100mm?

So a 40inch 720p LCD or a 1080 M81 with it's very high contrast ratio might do the trick.....that said, M81 is having a problem fixed and also has a temporary "Movie plus" drama.

My advice is to have a read and resist the urge to rush out and buy a HDTV just yet.

I record HDTV to my PC, so I know nothing about standalone PVR's sorry.

I think I'll take your advice thank you, and just sit back to see what happens over the next few months, as there may be further developments with both Bray and HD DVD.

[BribieG]

BENQ did a 37 inch full HD but it was a bit exxie. I looked at it last year but ended up buying a 768 panel instead because I didn't see much difference in the SD and there wasn't a lot I watched in HD at that time (70 and 20 were still 576 at the time and 70 still is in Bris here).

http://www.cnet.com.au/tvs/lcd/0,239035307,240058605,00.htm

Harvey Norman are official dealers, you might check with them to see if there's still a 37 incher from BENQ, and who knows they might even have old full HD models on clearance but whether the earlier models would support Bray I don't know. Also HD looks excellent on a 37 LCD panel. Currently 9am with boofhead and kim are on, and just flicking between SD and HD there's simply no comparison. Also 20 looks (and sounds) excellent in upconverted 720p. We live in a smallish duplex so a 40 would be upper limit, 50 would be total overkill so I can see where your'e coming from re screen sizes.

Overseas (e.g. UK) where lounge rooms are smaller 32 and 37 are more popular with 37 touted as the 'default' CRT replacement over there, so 37s are still made in quantity, the problem being getting a full HD one in Aus.

cheers

Michael

[Bluedog1503561024]

Hi Peterap, just a simple correction, the Acer 37 inch At 3705 DTV model does have detachable speakers, I have one and they do detach.

[Doug1503559538]

I don't think Australia sell any True HD panels@37inches.

1080 is over-rated on such a small screen anyway.

Don't forget that Bray will cost you 25% of your viewable screen{stupid aspect ratio}, so you might not get the WOW factor on such a modest screen size{Bray will still look better than other HD because it has a higher bitrate}

1080p is not over-rated for a 37" screen. It just does not look any different than SD does.

It is a Sony marketing ploy (FULL HD) that will suck enough people in to spend too much money for no difference.

[PanaSung]

1080p is not over-rated for a 37" screen. It just does not look any different than SD does.

It is a Sony marketing ploy (FULL HD) that will suck enough people in to spend too much money for no difference.

Huh????????

[BribieG]

Dear Doug:

Listen d***head I'm sitting looking at a 37 inch screen and HD looks miles better than SD. I own one. You obviously don't so you don't have a clue what you are talking about, as most people on this forum realise by now. You are a troll and unwelcome on this forum. Moderators please note.

[Peterap]

Hi Peterap, just a simple correction, the Acer 37 inch At 3705 DTV model does have detachable speakers, I have one and they do detach.

Hi Bluedog, Thanks for clarifying that for me. Is that model 1080i or p, and does it support 1080p input, please?

Regards,

Peterap

[Peterap]

BENQ did a 37 inch full HD but it was a bit exxie. I looked at it last year but ended up buying a 768 panel instead because I didn't see much difference in the SD and there wasn't a lot I watched in HD at that time (70 and 20 were still 576 at the time and 70 still is in Bris here).

http://www.cnet.com.au/tvs/lcd/0,239035307,240058605,00.htm

Harvey Norman are official dealers, you might check with them to see if there's still a 37 incher from BENQ, and who knows they might even have old full HD models on clearance but whether the earlier models would support Bray I don't know. Also HD looks excellent on a 37 LCD panel. Currently 9am with boofhead and kim are on, and just flicking between SD and HD there's simply no comparison. Also 20 looks (and sounds) excellent in upconverted 720p. We live in a smallish duplex so a 40 would be upper limit, 50 would be total overkill so I can see where your'e coming from re screen sizes.

Overseas (e.g. UK) where lounge rooms are smaller 32 and 37 are more popular with 37 touted as the 'default' CRT replacement over there, so 37s are still made in quantity, the problem being getting a full HD one in Aus.

cheers

Michael

Hi Michael, Thanks for the comments and link. Looks like a very nice unit with a great picture. According to the Benq website, their current model VA371 is a 1366 X 768 one. I think the earlier ones supported 1080i, but not p, but I could be wrong.

When I was in Myer recently, I just happened to overhear a salesman telling a prospective purchaser not to go for anything bigger than a 32" lcd tv, because of blurring of movement at the edges. If they wanted anything larger, they should go for plasma. Have you heard this one before?

Regards,

Peterap

[johnnysocco]

Hi,

There is a new ACER just released, AT3730B ,which at 944 x 692 x 261mm should do the trick and i can't see the picture quality being

any less great than the model before.

I don't think it is true 1080 but judging by comments previously made it probably isn't necessary on a screen this size and

in the size room which you say it would be placed.

Regards,

Johnnysocco

[Bluedog1503561024]

The AT3730B is 1366 x 768 and therefore cannot by definition be a 1080 definition TV. The 3705 on the other hand is 1920 x 1080.

Hi Peterap, the 3705 is said to be 1080p but does this only in a limited way. I think that you would be best to read the dedicated thread(s) on this model. Do a search for "acer" or "3705" and you should find the information. Be aware that there is some controversy over this TV. It can be driven at 1080p through a computer. I have set it up this way. Some say that the PS3 cannot be used on this set but others say it can. I am very happy using it as a straight out true high definition TV. Just for the record you can see the difference between SD and HD on this set. Keep in mind that because of this TV being native 1920 x 1080 it can cleverly upscale material. It should be said that when proper HD material is shown you can tell the difference. For example watching AFL on 7 vs HD AFL on 10 the difference is obvious. Details are plain to see after all there are many more pixels on a 1080 TV.

[Peterap]

Hi,

There is a new ACER just released, AT3730B ,which at 944 x 692 x 261mm should do the trick and i can't see the picture quality being

any less great than the model before.

I don't think it is true 1080 but judging by comments previously made it probably isn't necessary on a screen this size and

in the size room which you say it would be placed.

Regards,

Johnnysocco

Hi johnnysocco,

Thanks for the comments. With the speakers underneath, the size is much better.

Regards,

Peterap

[Peterap]

The AT3730B is 1366 x 768 and therefore cannot by definition be a 1080 definition TV. The 3705 on the other hand is 1920 x 1080.

Hi Peterap, the 3705 is said to be 1080p but does this only in a limited way. I think that you would be best to read the dedicated thread(s) on this model. Do a search for "acer" or "3705" and you should find the information. Be aware that there is some controversy over this TV. It can be driven at 1080p through a computer. I have set it up this way. Some say that the PS3 cannot be used on this set but others say it can. I am very happy using it as a straight out true high definition TV. Just for the record you can see the difference between SD and HD on this set. Keep in mind that because of this TV being native 1920 x 1080 it can cleverly upscale material. It should be said that when proper HD material is shown you can tell the difference. For example watching AFL on 7 vs HD AFL on 10 the difference is obvious. Details are plain to see after all there are many more pixels on a 1080 TV.

Hi Bluedog,

Thanks for the info. I will look for the thread on the 3705.

Regards,

Peterap