JandG Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I will forward this poll onto the relevant channels after 7 days from now. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoG Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I don't mean to bias the poll.. but they're more likely to listen if everyone votes to make it transparent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I was about to say the same thing. Sadly transparent is the best you could hope to get out of them I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion1503560145 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Rather that they all take them off of everything, but don't care really what they do with sport broadcasts - the fewer the better IMO.. fusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murcod Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 You forgot the "I don't care because I own an LCD" response option! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalpel Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 (edited) You forgot the "I don't care because I own an LCD" response option! I am sitting at work where we have both CRT and LCD monitors (mind you, none of them are expensive, and none of them are particularly new). The hospital logo (Screen saver) is burnt into both types of screens. So I would suggest that CRT and LCD are more difficult to burn an image, but not impossible. Edit : See below post. What I am seeing is (very) persistent image retention, and not true 'burn in'. J. Edited January 20, 2006 by Scalpel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoG Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I am sitting at work where we have both CRT and LCD monitors (mind you, none of them are expensive, and none of them are particularly new).The hospital logo (Screen saver) is burnt into both types of screens. So I would suggest that CRT and LCD are more difficult to burn an image, but not impossible. J. I've definately heard of CRT burn-in, but LCD? To me thats unheard of.. Are you sure you're describing the right defect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalpel Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 (edited) I've definately heard of CRT burn-in, but LCD? To me thats unheard of.. Are you sure you're describing the right defect? What - that the logo is visible as a faint image on the screen whatever is displayed (when the backgound is light enough to see it). As the computers are on 24/24 365 days a year, I haven't bothered to turn one off for a day, nor have I left it on a white screen or noise for a day to see how 'temporary" this is. But I guess it could be just image retention that is lasting longer than I could be bothered sitting at a computer for. Certainly there after 3-4 hours use without the screensaver reactivating. J. (Link) Did a quick look - this link suggests that what I am seeing may be just temporary. But then, to be fair, I suspect that what a lot of people are talking about on Plasmas is of similar duration. ie not permanent IF you very actively do something to remove it. Here is another - (Dell advice about their own monitors) Reversal of Image RetentionRetained images can be removed by "exercising" the LCD pixels to bleed-off the residual electrical charge in the affected pixels. This can most easily be accomplished by using a random pattern screen saver that changes the screen image repeatedly. The time required to clear the stuck image can vary widely (minutes, hours, days) depending on the panel technology and the severity of the image retention. NOTE: Turning the LCD monitor off for an extended period of time does not clear the image. The charge must be bled off by exercising the pixels with random images. Edited January 20, 2006 by Scalpel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoG Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 What - that the logo is visible as a faint image on the screen whatever is displayed (when the backgound is light enough to see it). As the computers are on 24/24 365 days a year, I haven't bothered to turn one off for a day, nor have I left it on a white screen or noise for a day to see how 'temporary" this is. But I guess it could be just image retention that is lasting longer than I could be bothered sitting at a computer for. Certainly there after 3-4 hours use without the screensaver reactivating. J. (Link) Did a quick look - this link suggests that what I am seeing may be just temporary. But then, to be fair, I suspect that what a lot of people are talking about on Plasmas is of similar duration. ie not permanent IF you very actively do something to remove it. Here is another - (Dell advice about their own monitors) Wow that is a first for me.. I had honsetly never heard of LCD screens burning in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejm Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Wow that is a first for me.. I had honsetly never heard of LCD screens burning in I had heard that they can get stuck pixels from having a solid colour on them for *ages* but it goes away after a few minutes of use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JandG Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 Bumped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1503559511 Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I'm sure that all the stations are aware that every viewer hates logos. The reason for them is content protection. This is particularly important for sporting events where other stations are permitted to show a portion of the sporting event in their news coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I'm sure that all the stations are aware that every viewer hates logos. The reason for them is content protection. This is particularly important for sporting events where other stations are permitted to show a portion of the sporting event in their news coverage. the networks themselves have no regard for content protection and watermarks. How many times have you seen the likes of ch fuzz over another netowrks watermark and put theirs right over it. I don't mind watermarks as long as theyre subtle and transparent transluscent so as not to draw away from the onscreen program itself. ch 2 were reasonably cooperative on the water mark side of things we all jumped up and down and lodged compaints when they plonked their large hard to miss watermark on our screens. they reduced the size and made it pretty transluscent. probably the best compramise we could have got. with ch9 thats probably the best we could get as well. that said watched the whole cricket match yesterday and theres no watermark burnt onto my plasma screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PersianImmortal Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 They really don't care what the viewer thinks about the watermark. If they did, they would know that any sane person does not want any additional mark or obscuring graphic over films, TV shows etc. It's dead obvious. So with all due respect, a poll showing that viewers don't like it is like a poll showing that people don't like paying for parking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murcod Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Wow that is a first for me.. I had honsetly never heard of LCD screens burning in We had an LCD monitor at work with a similar situation- ie. a logo appearing on faint backgrounds. I went back to check on the same monitor recently and the "burnt" image could no longer be seen. The above explanations on pixels needing excercise would tend to agree with what I've seen. The bad thing about plasmas is that you are effectively ageing the whole screen to get rid of the retention or burn in; whereas an LCD doesn't age from doing the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JandG Posted January 21, 2006 Author Share Posted January 21, 2006 Bumped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JandG Posted January 21, 2006 Author Share Posted January 21, 2006 Bumped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wires Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 how about just moving the logo to the corner of the screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betty boop Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 how about just moving the logo to the corner of the screen? unfortunately all the tv stations very frustatingly have the logo displayed in the 4:3 area of the screen as presuably to ensure the bulk of majority that still have 4:3 screens out there do not miss out on the experience of of its onscreen presence. Hopefully as more and more people get widescreen tvs eventually the networks will move the logo off in the corner rather than right in the middle section as it is now with a widescreen picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JandG Posted January 22, 2006 Author Share Posted January 22, 2006 Bumped 6 days to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JandG Posted January 22, 2006 Author Share Posted January 22, 2006 Bumped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wires Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 hey Bumped whilst youre at it tell C9 to get rid of that irritating progress score at about 10 o' clock hi during the cricket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JandG Posted January 22, 2006 Author Share Posted January 22, 2006 hey Bumped whilst youre at it tell C9 to get rid of that irritating progress score at about 10 o' clock hi during the cricket. Got Ya. Will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JandG Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Bumped 5 days to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejm Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 What are you doing with the poll in 5 days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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