SunRise74 Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 The mockingjay part 2 - and I have not brought to Oppo's attention yet. I will have to monitor it a bit more though
betty boop Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, SunRise74 said: The mockingjay part 2 - and I have not brought to Oppo's attention yet. I will have to monitor it a bit more though definitely let them know and let me know about when it freezes too. a movie i will watch so can look out if happens with mine too
SunRise74 Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 Al, will do. Other blurays are flawless so far and the planet earth II and Mad Max in 4k are so spectacular with HDR 1
JohnL Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 5 hours ago, bzr said: What about a 205 & a Soulution 560 dac, will that do? ^^^ What a needless waste of huge $$.......... Everyone knows that an OPPO 205 would be complete overkill....... as a 203 is all that's needed here!!!!........ 2
scobb Posted June 14, 2017 Posted June 14, 2017 8 hours ago, JohnL said: What a needless waste of huge $$.......... Everyone knows that an OPPO 205 would be complete overkill....... as a 203 is all that's needed here!!!!........ Do we know this is the case? I remember that Oppo have always said that if you are using HDMI or digital out then the 93/103 were just as good as the higher end players. This time they haven't said that (as far as I know), they have made a point of saying that the 205 has a special jitter reduction for HDMI and they don't make it clear that this is also on the 203. If this jitter reduction is not on the 203 then it could well be that the 205 IS the better player, even via HDMI??
scobb Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, Sime said: The 203 doesn't have jitter reduction. So this time around are Oppo recommending the 205 over the 203 even when HDMI is used audio (stereo/multi channel)? Have you/anyone compared the sound over HDMI between the two players?
Guest Sime Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2017/06/upgrade-your-oppo-udp-203-with-clones-audios-psupd/
JohnL Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, scobb said: Do we know this is the case? I remember that Oppo have always said that if you are using HDMI or digital out then the 93/103 were just as good as the higher end players. This time they haven't said that (as far as I know), they have made a point of saying that the 205 has a special jitter reduction for HDMI and they don't make it clear that this is also on the 203. If this jitter reduction is not on the 203 then it could well be that the 205 IS the better player, even via HDMI?? My post was just a bit of a joke regarding bothering with the more expensive 205's DAC when the external one mentioned cost more than $30K!!!!!! On a serious note........ As far as jitter reduction goes.........it's not exactly "new" tech!!! Any decent Pre/Pro or quality AVR has their own jitter reduction circuitry inbuilt anyway. My Integra DHC 80.3 calls it............ •PLL (Phase Locked Loop) Jitter-Cleaning Circuit Technology And then there's the "Ultralock 2" jitter attenuation in my Benchmark DAC2..... They both sound great. Anyway......I can't see it worth paying DOUBLE the price of a OPPO 203 for!!!.......even allowing for the fact that I haven't actually heard it yet........LOL. If you DON'T plan on adding an external DAC ( be it $30K's worth or otherwise) then by all means grab a 205 and be happy. Edited June 15, 2017 by JohnL
TP1 Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Has anyone compared the 205 to 203 for picture quality? I have digital audio covered so I am only interested in PQ as it will only be used for Home Theatre duties.
betty boop Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 100% identical in video stage. benefit of 205 is in analog audio and its jitter proofing over hymn for pcm and dsd.
TP1 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 2 hours ago, al said: 100% identical in video stage. benefit of 205 is in analog audio and its jitter proofing over hymn for pcm and dsd. Thanks Al!
Thunder_Snake Posted December 27, 2017 Posted December 27, 2017 I'm interested in possibly using either the 203 or 205 as a Roon endpoint to my Audio Note DAC via spdif. Anyone feel there would be much difference between the 2 for this application? Will it also be able to stream SoundCloud, and internet videos over my network if I'm using my Mac Mini as a core/server? thanks for the help.
Shmockolovitch Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 Hi folks, I already have an Opp103D that I use for Bluray AND digital music, mainly CD, SACD and DVD-audio. I think it sounds great.. I plug my 103 via RCA into my Prima Luna Dialogue premium amp.. I was wondering if I upgrade to a 205, I won't we able to exploit the balanced XLR, but it has discreet RCA stereo outs, with there be that much audio improvement between say the 203 and the 205 using RCA strereo outs?
JSmith Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 On 05/05/2017 at 5:20 PM, TerryO said: Anyway has anyone else had a chance to compare these two Oppo players? Audioholics did; https://www.audioholics.com/blu-ray-and-dvd-player-reviews/oppo-udp-203-udp-205 "We continued the listening comparison cuing up 192kHz/24 bit recordings streaming from my network HDD to both players and the results were pretty consistent in what we both heard. In brass instruments in jazz music, the UDP-205 sounded a tad smoother and less forward while the UDP-203 at times almost sounded like it had a hotter top end to it. We are literally splitting hairs here because both players have excellent analog outputs. I could easily live with either player as a dedicated two-channel player. Is the UDP-205's slight level of refinement worth over 2X the cost? I will leave that up to you to decide." JSmith 1
TerryO Posted May 21, 2018 Author Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, JSmith said: Audioholics did; https://www.audioholics.com/blu-ray-and-dvd-player-reviews/oppo-udp-203-udp-205 "We continued the listening comparison cuing up 192kHz/24 bit recordings streaming from my network HDD to both players and the results were pretty consistent in what we both heard. In brass instruments in jazz music, the UDP-205 sounded a tad smoother and less forward while the UDP-203 at times almost sounded like it had a hotter top end to it. We are literally splitting hairs here because both players have excellent analog outputs. I could easily live with either player as a dedicated two-channel player. Is the UDP-205's slight level of refinement worth over 2X the cost? I will leave that up to you to decide." JSmith Given my original post was over a year ago it was interesting to reread it and then the above quote by someone at Audioholics. While my terminology more than likely left a little bit to be desired it still isn't that far away from what they found except I am still of the opinion the differences between the two players is large enough that I am of the opinion that the 205 is a much better option for 2-channel. Maybe a 203 with a reasonable DAC fitted inline might see the 203 best the 205, but who knows, not I. cheers Terry Edited May 21, 2018 by TerryO
Guest Posted May 21, 2018 Posted May 21, 2018 Does anyone know how Oppo's announcement affected sales and pricing of the 203 and 205?
1224 Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 On 21/05/2018 at 3:52 PM, TerryO said: Given my original post was over a year ago it was interesting to reread it and then the above quote by someone at Audioholics. While my terminology more than likely left a little bit to be desired it still isn't that far away from what they found except I am still of the opinion the differences between the two players is large enough that I am of the opinion that the 205 is a much better option for 2-channel. Maybe a 203 with a reasonable DAC fitted inline might see the 203 best the 205, but who knows, not I. cheers Terry I am also interested in how the 203 will perform as a transport. I might try tomorrow to connect my 2qute up and see how it performs as a CDP. I wonder how a good CDP player will perform, or outperform, a ROON/usbridge digital streaming setup?
jamesrc Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 On 05/08/2018 at 10:18 PM, 1224 said: I am also interested in how the 203 will perform as a transport. I might try tomorrow to connect my 2qute up and see how it performs as a CDP. I wonder how a good CDP player will perform, or outperform, a ROON/usbridge digital streaming setup? I have my 203 running both with a Mytek Brooklyn Dac and also using the internal DAC into a Prima Luna Dialogue Premium. The output from the Mytek is much hotter than the on board DAC. When taking this into account there is a moderate improvement in SQ with the Mytek. Crisper bass, more dynamic. Nonetheless I think the Oppo would be perfectly adequate as a standalone disc player and if I didn’t have the external DAc would likely be very happy
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