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Hi, in switzerland we have: O I CHF. 6500.- + stand CHF. 1200.- O II CHF. 9900.- O III CHF. 13500.- -> Cremona M brouchure price is CHF. 10900.- but are available new as "last piece availabe, and other description = dealer will sell a.s.a.p. the Cremona M and replace the M with the Olympica --> CHF. 6200.- !!!! Maybe a Cremona M new for CHF. 6200.- can be a bargain vs the monitor Olymica I!!! OR?

Hallo, @ mitkey: the C1 look better with a "single tube stand" for you? and the sound ? is the same with the version single tube? the C1 signature = in Moka is much better as the vesion C1 II. the xover, the tweeter too (i think this last too) and the extra cost for a C1 Sig. is the same like a C1 II in "special color" but this last dont have the same performance..... Personaly a C1 Sig. sound very fine for me (and as second speaker is one of my more agreed - I have B&W802Di now. the double tube stand looks very good. (imho) How much is C1 sig. in yor country? --> in Switzerland is priced CHF. 7300.- without Stand. (USD. 7937.- ca.) thx Style

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Hi, well raidho 3.1 are be sold. now I have purchased another pair of B&W802di: for me , imho, I prefer the B&W. I have a Bryston Bda1 with cd player from Cambridge851c and a audiolab8200: I will a cd_Dac "all in one" . all the cd that I have at home wiil be played without other cd transporter. (and I dont have any interess to the Sacd = cd 2 channel is more as enough) Ma2 sound fine is true but I dont like the "slot" like a pc as cd player. Meitner dont can 384 and Dsd (fur the next? future!) Playback Mps 3 is the least expensive BUT I will a good gear. if the "right" dac_cd player is more expensive (well not a double price) is not important. Mps3 sound faster as the Meitner and have more soundstage. (listen with Dartzeel cth8550 and Evoulution speaker -> too a good speaker) Esoteric K03 has the best construction (the shipping, all metal) .... nothing to say.but Playback for me is better. the sound is not do only from a good transport piece...the fuly system, the software (algorithms are well much important) I dont will a "only" Dac" like Meitner Ma1 or the Playback Mpd 3..... AND a MA2 or MPS3 is better as the Ma1 or Mpd3: ex.: the building, the part of the electricity is higher than the version "only" Dac ...= Ma1 /Mpd3. a combo K05 and Mpd3 is not at the sound level from the Mps3. The Mps 5 is sure better but have a 2x the price from the Mps3 and if the multichanel, sacd is not a priority dont make sense invest this money and not use this function. Moon: well Meitner have a lot of technologie from Moon copied! Mcintosh is not a good gear for ME. please let me know. thx style

Meitner MA2 vs. PlaybackMPS3 or Moon 650Dac?? Hallo, I will replace my source. at fist the MA from Meitner Ma2 was my target. after searchin the web the Mps3 (always from Arenas Kock ex Meitner) have a better cd transport system, a dsd, 384kHz, ecc... well a more "new" gear"...... Moon is without any doubt a great product and is from a lot of years in the world of the high end. any piece inside the product made in canada from Monn are "made in Moon"... Now the Mps3 is my favorit but the Moon is a great alternative,... what do you think? Thank you in advance, Style

hi guys, and what do you think Meitner Ma2 or Playback Mps3? Meitner is a great brand, Emmlabs school and sound amazing. the almost track today available are 24bit/96 sometime 192 khzand the more "power delivered from the Playbak is ot very necessary... what do you think? thank you. --> of course with a budget for a xds1 v2 and dac emmlabs I dont have problem to purchase emmlabs... Style

Hi, yes the Cremona in Europa as "stock of stores" is sold with around 40% discount.... the Cremona M is def. at end of life.....but is a good speaker. style

At the End...: the D Raidho speakers are really sooo much better vs the C serie? You changet a C3.1 with a D1? :P

?!?! is a lego ??? speaker to be assembled, nice!

Hi, sorry back to the Meitner.... I search a cd player and dac: I go sell the Bryston Bda. the player Camdbrige 851c I think keep you..... Invest into the Meiner Ma2 or Ma1? (I will a good cd player but a Dac too) --> you thing ok, go with the MA2: good Dac and player with the Meitner name all in ohne (better at the combo Ma1 and 851c!) or go with a Esoteric K03. ----------------- I will have a extra amplifier at the side from the Passlab combo Xp20-X250.5: a X350.5 (make not much Sense...is the same at the X250.5 that sound very fine for much people better at the 350.5..) - electrocompaniet 250r or a Gryphon Diablo? Thank you Style

well, I agree....in the 2010 I was at the TopAudio in Milaan : I had in hand the transport part from the Esoteric!! amazing!! all metal, a jewel!!! K03 or Ma2 / Ma1 with a player like the cdsa se? I search a cd player not firsr a sacd....(the Sacd are very rare in my "collection"..the Hybrid Sacd are 10???) a Esoteric like the K05 or K07 Esoteric have the Ko07 (now is too the Dac 07 in the Esoteric brouchure) or K05! and are not a K03/K01 but great products. The Marants SA11S3 is at the level from the K05??? The point is that I "muss" choice into the Audiorefence products!!! (here I have a very very great price) (Emmlabs,Meitner,Passlab,Gryphon,Bryston,Wyred 4 Sound, ProAc, Kimber,....) A Esoteric K03 here is in euro. 11500.- ca. no discount or max. 10%.. with this price I can buy the Ma2 and I save 3-4k. euro!!!!

that's my idea too....I have 2 player...are not high end bu the play fine: a Cambrigde 851c and a Marantz sa11s2. with a Ma1 and maybe in a second time a emmlabs cdsa se I will be happy. with this otpion I go buy another ampli too: a integrated from gryphon Daiblo or a a Accuphase 460 _ 560..... have a 350.5 make no sense: the 250.5 sound much better....other solution the XA100.5. any way the 250.5 stay in my room. the Pass XA in sommer are very killer -> too hot!!!!!

Thakn you. well the AMR is a very good Dac (my friend have a unit) compared with the Dcs puccuni: AMR wins hands down... I use the cd......a Ma1 with a cd player will give the same sound like the MA2 or is this last (all Ed Meitner?!?) that sound better? I go invest my money in Meitner or Emmlabs becouse here I have a very nice price! A esoteric K01 is a very great maschine! Listen at home from ma friend with Magico Q5, Spectral 360s2 - pre D30ss: well is a very Player.... The "combo" Ma1 with a cdsa se can be a option.... the ONLY new XDS1 v.2 in Europa is priced around Euro. 31000.- and with this money are available a lot of other option... in the meitner/emmlabs brouchure too!!!! Use the Pass combo xp20-x250.5 alternately at the xa100.5 with a Ma1 (in place of my Bryson bda1) & Apple Macbookpro retina Plus cd player transporteur or the "only" MA2 can give me sadisfaction... ::)

Hallo, I will change my cd player/Dac....and - i'm in Swtizerland - the more apprecied is sure Esoteric or dcs.... I have the Meinter Ma1 or the Ma2 in my mind..... (we dont have Sacd in the store, for this reason the Emm Dac2x with a price x2 the Ma1 dont is in my wishlist..) Friend say me that a Esoteric k03 is mich better vs the Ma1 and a emmlabs player.....or go with a Msb IV! electronics are Passlabs pre (xp20) and ampli (x250.5) ... here I go have a couple of XA100.5 or another X serie: X350.5 (but people say that the 250 play much better vs the 350...?!?) -> I will have another amplifier Pass for me play fine other? a Gryphon Diablo.. at the end: a Meitner Ma1 (with a player Esoteric entry level K07 or X05) or Ma2 with the player inside...... (i use 2 Apple Macbookpro retina for the liquid music..) another ampli: X350.5 or XA100.5 other side a Gryphon Diablo thank you for your opinion. style

Raidho D1 vs Magico Q1 -> D1 Raidho D2 vs Magico Q3 -> Q3 Magico Q3 vs Magico S5 -> S5 !! Magico Q5 is a hard speaker to drive....are really only 80dB!!!!( not the 87dB? declared) the Q3 is more "drivable" but the S5 is really without any problem, play with much more pleasure, more punch, more.....enjoy!!! Q series sound too controlled, very "prissy", perfect S5 very addictive......truly engaging!!! Style

Hallo, For the Sonus Faber Fans on July will be consigned the "new" CREMONA M. The Cremona M wil be erplace from a new model or well from a restyling :P in Singapore you dont have any news? style

Hi, Audiolab is a very good brand. but imho for cd player , dac ,... but for amplifier is not "the top" ....expecially to drive speakers they need not watt but "ampere-electricity"!!! the Marantz, whith the new 11s3 is sure better.... other solution can be the Bryston B135: integrated and very apprecied gear.... I dont know is Audionet and Accutic Arts are available in Singapore ...this 2 are very amazing..... style

wow, a 3.7 here is start from Singapore dollars 26k ca...... a B&W802d2 official price is CHF. 16900.- / in Italy,Germany,France,... 14000 EURO. = 22700 Singapore dollars but you can hae a street price (in Switzerland ) with a 10% discount...in Italy with a 20/25% !!!!! :o Is really strange like the same product is so different priced in the differente country.... You have a Thiel?

Hi bro, the mmMicroOne is a very good monitor speaker (the same dealer from DarTZeel Switzerland) : price in Switzerland from the MicroOne with stand = CHF. 3720.- (ca. €. 3050.-) the sonus Faber Venere 1.5 are priced a half from the Evolution Acoustics MM Micro One! and not for the price but this last is not at the same level from the Evolution Acoustics MM Micro One! at francis wu: you use the MicroOne as "second speaker"? what is your "main speaker? amplifier? I think that the Micro1 need a lot more "power...sorry electricy" ....the same track with a SonusFaber will be listen at 50dB., with the Micor1 at 60dB!! (well this from a B&W speaker vs Evolution Acoustics... how much is priced the Evolution in Singapore? Thx style

Hi watchdog, thank you for the reply. how much are the 3.7 in Singapore ? (official & street price) in Europa the Thiel 3.7 are more expensive at the B&W802D2!! (official price and street price too!) Thiel is without discount! ( Nothing 0 ZERO %) style

thx DJQ, I had B&W for 15 years?!?! and now I have a Raidho 3.1 but they are not like a woofer from B&W!!! I use Passlab. A x250.5 will be enough for the Thiel 3.7? What do you think from the Brand Accustic Arts? (preTube and AMP II or III mk2)??? cheers Style

Hallo, sorry a question from a new Thiel fans: the Thiel (2.7 or 3.7 NEVER listen before!!) are like a B&W802di or the sound is sooo different? around in the same price liga (B&W802d2 - Thiel 2.7-3.7 well in europa) are 2 products similar or very differemt? isf you like a fast & fdirect sound, "punched"....the 3.7 need much ampere vs the Watt or? (the ampli will be better with more ampere/electricity vs power in watt)?? thank you for any reply with info from this 2 brands with plus & minus from the two.... cheer style

http://www.coda-continuum.com/product/index.php Hi, never listen this one? Coda CSi. sure for the 5k. new available!! and much better from a lot of others.... The Gryphon Diablo is well fully balanced and sound amazing: of course is out of the 5k.$$$.. :'( style

Hallo, well I have see great rack, nice pictures,.... ;) at first: wood or glas? For me Wood!! anyway for a wood is the more perfoming... how much space you have? and for a 2 channel or HT system? have a "good", the right Rack is sure a "good point for the sound. imho: 2 channel highEnd. Finite Elemente Pagode is the top. 2 x E12 (3 floor....) is a very great rack. http://www.finite-elemente.de/en/racks/pagode_signature The other amazing rack is the HRS.....but is very expensive....http://www.avisolation.com/sxraudio_stands.html This italian Brand is too a good job: http://www.bassocontinuo.it/e_accordeon.html a lot of setup are available and with the "modular-system" will be always actuall, a new "piece" a upgrade" is possible without problem. materials of first choice, studies for the construction and looks good! Another not expensive but is very nice: Gregitek http://www.gregitek.com/eng/index.html greetings Style