ATMOS / DTS-X and Ceiling mounted speakers discussion thread

[petetherock]

That depends on where your overhead speakers are sited - very close to your MLP or to the front/back. If you are using very wide dispersion ones, then straight down is fine.

If you are using AG A'Divas for example, you can always tilt/swivel them a little when you adjust your MLP..

[petetherock]

Just a link to a chap who has a nice idea on mounting those ceiling speakers:

http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php/topic/213893-atmos-and-3d-audio-adventures/?p=2062298

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We have a few bros here who are good with their hands too, and will be able to do just as pro a job..

http://www.amazon.com/Dynamat-50306-DynaBox-Enclosure-Speakers/dp/B002DS3P40

http://www.dynamat.com/architectural-home/architectural-home-dynabox/

[petetherock]

DTS-X speaker arrangement:

[petetherock]

This works for both Atmos & DTS-X:

[desray]

Personally I will just simply follow Dolby atmos speaker layout. DTS X is more forgiving in their layout, so long there is speakers on the ceiling or even the use reflective spks like the AE modules.

 

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[bluepill193]

Has anyone got experience with mounting speakers onto concrete ceiling (no false ceiling)? Any issues with drilling into the ceiling, especially structural integrity issues?

Considering doing this with AG A'diva speakers

[mutant1624706088]

No issue. Coz drilling small ~5mm holes only.

 

Be happy always ☺

 

 

[mutant1624706088]

Personally I will just simply follow Dolby atmos speaker layout. DTS X is more forgiving in their layout, so long there is speakers on the ceiling or even the use reflective spks like the AE modules.

 

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Mine more of a hybrid mix halfway between height & top positions.

 

Be happy always ☺

 

 

[ALTK]

I drilled mine directly on concrete ceiling. It's harder than normal wall n I took quite sometimes to get it done cos don't dare to force too hard due to small drill bit size.

[petetherock]

Just a little personal perspective, and I would say that speaker placement is so important, so you create the right ambience.

Right placement, and good manual adjustment of levels to make the transition of sound from speaker to speaker is vital.

 

 

One can't just leave it to Audyssey to fix. You have to do some work, and the reward can be a very involving experience.

[Jag]

I drilled my speakers and projector directly into the ceiling. No big issue.

 

I use special Tapcon masonry screws that screw directly into the concrete. No need for wall plugs or anchor bolts. Very strong pull strength.

[bluepill193]

Thanks for the inputs on drilling into ceiling. Bro Jag these tapcon screws are available in any hardware shops?

[petetherock]

A quick word on using a ceiling position / close to ceiling position for the REAR speaker:

 

 

Not the Atmos speaker, but a rear or rear back speaker.

Due to WAF or other constraints, we can see some bros using a position that is just off the ceiling or cove for their rear speaker. Then angling this down to face the MLP.

 

 

Then the question is posed - ( often after the position is actually selected and the speaker is actually in place! ), whether or not this is ok :)

Well as what I told a bro an hour ago..

 

 

We live by our decisions, and make a choice based on the compromise between sound and WAF - wife acceptance factor. Put simply, a wrongly or less than ideally placed speaker won't allow the directional place and sound transition required. Say a bullet flies from back to front, it won't give that illusion if the sound emanates from up high and rear, then has to transit to the side surrounds or front speakers. It will appear disjointed, or there will be a gap in the sound.

 

 

The best position for a rear or rear back speaker is always around the ear level or just slightly higher, i.e. at most a foot or two higher than your sitting position.

 

 

One way if you are able to, is to get your contractor to cut into the concrete wall and lay the cable, then plaster back the cavity. That gives you the WAF you are looking for, and still allowing a better speaker position.

 

 

 

 

[petetherock]

Bros

Any idea where I can get my hands on a demo disc with test tones?

Either for DTS-X or Atmos?

Thanks

[petetherock]

Saw someone on AVS post that one should use the "Heights" for the ceiling speakers instead of the "Top" so one can use the same configuration for Atmos and DTS-X?

Does anyone do that?

I have been using Top Front and Rear, and it sounds pretty fine.

[Guest CASH]

If u parallel them, like what bro Jag n me have done, I think its no problem..

Jag is the guru that I followed after visiting his man cave.

[Highonthehog]

If u parallel them, like what bro Jag n me have done, I think its no problem..

Jag is the guru that I followed after visiting his man cave.

 

Hi Bro Cash.

 

Can advise how to parallel the front heights?

 

Thought of moving my front wides to front height but already have 4 overheads.

 

 

 

Cheers.

[Guest CASH]

See my pics I posted bro..

I jus reconnect them with extra speaker wires!!

Desray saw those pics and said its madness!!

Hehehe!!

WAF factor does not come into play with my route I choose!!

Bro Jags house setup definately much neater n WAF approved!

[Highonthehog]

See my pics I posted bro..

I jus reconnect them with extra speaker wires!!

Desray saw those pics and said its madness!!

Hehehe!!

WAF factor does not come into play with my route I choose!!

Bro Jags house setup definately much neater n WAF approved!

See my pics I posted bro..

I jus reconnect them with extra speaker wires!!

Desray saw those pics and said its madness!!

Hehehe!!

WAF factor does not come into play with my route I choose!!

Bro Jags house setup definately much neater n WAF approved!

 

Cheers.

 

Did you connect the speakers through the same binding post on the avr? or daisy chaining from post -> wire -> speaker -> wire -> speaker?

[Guest CASH]

I am reachin nirvana now.. 3 bots of tiger..

I cant find the post I posted the pic...

Damn!!! ;D

[Guest CASH]

It was from speaker to speaker..

[Guest CASH]

Not from the avr side...

[petetherock]

I don't quite understand how to wire up in parallel and I am not sure I want to?

More importantly:

Do you use Top or Heights?

[Guest CASH]

Thats y i have 8 deftech pros 800 on ceiling plus top walls...

Hehehehe!!

In all I have 10 deftech pros 800, plus 2 more deftech pros 1000 for surrounds..

;D

[Guest CASH]

Pete, it doesnt matter to me if top or height..

I heard the sound from Jag's man cave, n it was nice n great!!

Hehehehe!!

Me approching the nirvana stage here guys!!

;D