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Been harboring thoughts about getting a coffee machine again.

 

Whilst it's hard to resist the convenience lure of the nespresso way (isn't that patent running out next yr?), I think I'd like to learn how to do the barista bit.

 

Good beans aside, can anyone explain the finer art of coffee making in simple English?

 

The size of the grind, tampering, water pressure, special cups (=round bottomed??).

 

I've already got a ceramic Gaggia grinder with variable grind- is that good enough?

 

Any recommendations for a good value machine (pref under a grand), cappuccino ability would be good, but not essential.

Are though stove top espresso makers any good?

Give phil a call at highlandercoffee.com they had a rancillio Silvia going quite cheap

 

The grinder you have should be fine if it's a burr grinder. phil will be able to steer you right on finer points too

 

 

Been harboring thoughts about getting a coffee machine again.

 

Whilst it's hard to resist the convenience lure of the nespresso way (isn't that patent running out next yr?), I think I'd like to learn how to do the barista bit.

 

Good beans aside, can anyone explain the finer art of coffee making in simple English?

 

The size of the grind, tampering, water pressure, special cups (=round bottomed??).

 

I've already got a ceramic Gaggia grinder with variable grind- is that good enough?

 

Any recommendations for a good value machine (pref under a grand), cappuccino ability would be good, but not essential.

Are though stove top espresso makers any good?

I think the stovetop espresso is how the italians used to make it so it should work fine. :)

 

Making the foamy milk is a bit harder. But I guess you can always buy the Nespresso frother for about 99 bucks.

 

I had a Braun espresso and cappuccino maker years ago. Making the coffee was easy. I just hated the cleaning up. I ended up bringing it to the office and had the office cleaner help me clean it up :P I also ended up leaving it behind in the office when I left the company years ago :P

 

 

Wah lau... my Mrs would kill me hahahahaha ....

Saw this in Coffee exhibition at the HKC&EC on Tuesday.  Made in Korea. Cost S$2000.

Get one to do your own roasting at home !  Have a coffee beans roasting shoot-out ..  ;D

 

 

Ha ha! Pretty cool.

 

Maybe I can use the land at the back of my place to grow the beans ;)

Nice but wonder if home roasting will trigger another curry-fiasco from the aroma/smell/stench generated (depending on how the neighbours like coffee).

Just found an Aussie brand:

http://www.baybeans.com.au/

 

Might try some when I am back in Oz...

 

Wiz:

How's the Kopi Luak I gave you :)

The other bag not Luak  :(

 

Another new place open a couple of months only in Kandahar Street ... Maison Ikkoku, but havent tried it yet.

 

http://www.maison-ikkoku.net/

 

 

 

I hope you kept some from the other bag...

 

Anyhow, I will be in Sydney in feb, pm me if you want some kopi... I might get from a place near my church at Milson's point.

The first bag all used up at yr gig :)

 

If you gan get a bag of Espresso beans from cafe called Crema then its good...otherwise whatever you can find with a roasting date less than 5 days before you leave. Older than that and its gonna be past the use by for my liking :P

I doubt it... church is on Sunday, and I won't fly back for a few days after...

 

BTW, still have your ladder, and I have a HDMI cable for you, cheers.

I like papa palhelta.

 

They have really special beans. Direct from farm.

 

Colombina bella compa or something. Really special and now and then they bring in and roasted reowned coffee beans.

 

 

Ahhh coffee.

 

Favourite method of brewing is the pourover. little cone shape thingy, put filter, put coffee, put hot water. have coffee!

Heh! I also do the pour over. Was told that it was a good way of really tasting the character of the coffee. Also can try any coffee beans, v little equipment needed and of course it's v cheap too. But I think I need a better grinder, my old Gaggia makes an awful racket and takes ages.

 

Cannot do expresso though- was thinking of buying one I those Italian stove top things. Anyone with any experience of these.

Heh! I also do the pour over. Was told that it was a good way of really tasting the character of the coffee. Also can try any coffee beans, v little equipment needed and of course it's v cheap too. But I think I need a better grinder, my old Gaggia makes an awful racket and takes ages.

 

Cannot do expresso though- was thinking of buying one I those Italian stove top things. Anyone with any experience of these.

 

Called a moka pot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moka_pot

 

Not expensive and very common in almost every Italian home. I have 2-3 and I'm not even Italian  :o

 

But I prefer an espresso shot with milk - cafe latte, as does my wife and many of our friends too, or an americano. Purists may settle for espresso most of the time.

 

 

Called a moka pot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moka_pot

 

Not expensive and very common in almost every Italian home. I have 2-3 and I'm not even Italian  :o

 

But I prefer an espresso shot with milk - cafe latte, as does my wife and many of our friends too, or an americano. Purists may settle for espresso most of the time.

 

 

 

Tks Paul. Didn't realize it was called a Moka pot.

 

So the extraction is at a lower bar than for true expresso? Does that mean a less concentrated extraction and a more dilute drink? I thought that one can also get a fairly concentrated "expresso" from these pots?

 

Any recommendation for a brand/model and where to buy locally?

 

 

Have u tried this design?

 

Brikka is a modified moka pot manufactured by Bialetti. It incorporates a weighted valve as a pressure regulator on top of the nozzle that allows pressure to build up inside the water tank in a manner similar to a pressure cooker. This increases the pressure of the water flowing through the coffee grounds, and increases the extraction temperature beyond the boiling point of water at atmospheric pressure.

Tks Paul. Didn't realize it was called a Moka pot.

 

So the extraction is at a lower bar than for true expresso? Does that mean a less concentrated extraction and a more dilute drink? I thought that one can also get a fairly concentrated "expresso" from these pots?

 

Any recommendation for a brand/model and where to buy locally?

 

 

Have u tried this design?

I have seen the moka pots at Yahava at upper thompson near Austrich's place. Alessi also make one maybe can get at ParkMall or parco...maybe also at smitten opp gallery hotel, and other places too.

 

I have another stove top with a pressure valve and a steaming arm too

 

 

but not the Brikka...but mine is a perhaps similar to the Brikka if you dont use the steam wand.

That's pretty cool stuff. I still dun really understand the difference between the output of these compared to a typical coffee machine- can elaborate.

 

Maybe it's cheaper to buy in UK? Will be going there later in the year.

 

 

Basically amounts to pressure available (bar) and consistancy plus temperature stability. Water and grind also come into it...can nev make like in Italy as the water is not the same.

Heh! Can try with Italian mineral water :P

 

 

Heh! Can try with Italian mineral water :P

 

Also won't work...need the impurities from the old pipes underground...so I'm told.

Also won't work...need the impurities from the old pipes underground...so I'm told.

 

How curious.  Whereas the claim that NYC pizza is the best is tied to the fact that its water supply is apparently completely untreated with anything.

Moka pot was my first coffee making machine.

 

Ikea has those. Uber cheap. Ikea also has french pressiess.

 

Moka pot can make good coffee. Depends on technique and coffee bean too.

 

Wizardofoz, really nice moka pot. I was looking for 1 with the steam valve to steam milk! Avaliable in singapore?

 

everywhere can get moka pot. Taka has the bialiatte with cow print somemore.

 

 

As for grinder, I am mostly using hand grinder now.

 

 

water i think is secondary effect. might affect a bit but if the basics are not right, wont have good coffee.

 

 

At the end of the day coffee is coffee. Espresso more thick, moka pot can make thick thick, and other methods will have its own unique twist to the coffee being brewed. it all depends on what you prefer.

Bro zenesh, what's the secret to good moka coffee?

lol. not too sure.

 

Back then was anything goes. I used the cheapest and quite nasty pre-ground coffee powder.

 

Well fresh beans as usual

 

and from what I read.

pour hot water in and take off the moka pot from the stove the minute coffee starts coming out.

 

 

Hmmm I should try the moka pot again.