Thomas Magnum Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Yeah dude, channel 10 can get fracked! I just noticed the re-arrival of BSG as well but it is too late for Ch 10 now, when they pulled it off the air those couple of months ago I upped and joined Quickflix and have been enjoying season 2 of BSG at my convenience, not Ch frackin 10's. One more viewer lost to FTA and for no reason other than their slackness. It's not that they don't have the right to alter their schedule, of course they do, it's their station. But it's the total lack of communication before, during and after the event that bugs the hell out of me. OK, BSG was not averaging 1.7M viewers a week but still there are many thousands of people actually watching and these people were treated like prize chumps by Ten. There was no announcement that the show would go into hiatus for 2 months, no short 10 second on-screen notice at the scheduled time the first Wed night it was pulled, and no notification that it is back on, except if you happen to be scanning the program guide for post-midnight fare on Sunday. There is still no news of this on Ten's website, BSG isn't even listed as one of their programs. On one of these earlier posts someone had to go to the trouble of calling these cretins at Ten to even get an answer as to what had happened to BSG. It's like tracking down a forensic lead on a murder, with a similar effort level, just to find out what should be easily available. Memo to Ch Ten tosspots: THAT'S WHAT YOUR WEBSITE IS FOR, COMMUNICATION!!!! How many people out there, good-hearted citizens like myself, programmed their PVR/PC/VCR to record BSG those few months ago, only to awaken the next day to the idiotic ramblings of a bunch of D-grade celebrities on Joker Poker. And gee, hasn't that rated well for them??!! The only pokers doing the rounds at Ch 10 should be the ones that get rammed up the dates of management. It amazes me, in the increasingly firece battle FTA stations are fighting against piracy, the internet etc, you would think they would treat those still watching with a bit of concern, trying to keep them happy and watching those sponsor's ads. Instead, it's like they are trying to deliberately cast them off. Maybe they'll get a tax break if they become a not-for-profit ... And who the hell is gunna be watching TV at that god-forsaken hour of Monday morning? To quote Homer Simpson from the snow plough episode: "Alcoholics. The unemployed. Angry loners." Channel 10 - get f***ed! There, I feel better now ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyestrain Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 .How many people out there, good-hearted citizens like myself, programmed their PVR/PC/VCR to record BSG those few months ago, only to awaken the next day to the idiotic ramblings of a bunch of D-grade celebrities on Joker Poker. Now I know there were at least two of us! Valid points about TEN's lack of use of its website and the almost 'nod-nod/wink-wink' approach to folk who use other methods to see the remainder of a series. But maybe if TEN can get its program airings up to date with United States program schedules we may have a better chance that shows will get longer runs. Of course on again/off again shows like The 4400 make this highly questionable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j0hn Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Thanks Bishop. I would have missed that had I not read it here. Hey, Seven aren't much better. They did the same deal with Atlantis, running three episodes into Season 2 then pulling it off without warning. I rang them and they had no idea when it was coming back. All they would say was sometime in 2007, duh! I hate TV programmers. Bit of goss here about a possible Battlestar Movie direct to DVD http://www.yourtv.com.au/news/index.cfm?i=112654 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sulimo Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 The commercial tv networks really treat scifi fans with contempt.Perhaps they are presuming we've already downloaded all the eps. Self fulfilling expectation? Nope they just look at the piss poor ratings and realise its not worth showing SF at a reasonable hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Magnum Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Maybe, but not many sf shows have ever had a good run at a reasonable viewing hour, so it's difficult to say how a show like BSG would rate. It is well known that if you shuffle any show around the schedule too much it will lose viewer support. If a show is quality (and BSG is, most critics agree), is supported by a network in terms of promotion and scheduling, and is given a decent run at building an audience then it will usually reap rewards in terms of solid and consistent ratings. How many viewers like me, Bishop and eyestrain have now switched off from the FTA BSG, and if this is reflected in the ratings then the network may feel justified in saying "Look, the ratings are down, it's not a good show." However, us three and more may still be there watching if it would have been aired at the same time slot and straight through, not pulled for 2 months. The other point, and I welcome input from anyone who knows more than me, is that I am unsure if the OZTAM rating system picks up on programs that are recorded and watched at a later time, as opposed to being watched 'live'. If it is true that it doesn't, then shows on at post 11pm timeslots will suffer as not many are up watching them live. It's why there is a 'prime time', when advertising rates are at a premium, as this is when the most sets of eyeballs are pointed at the screen. So a program like BSG may not show as having many viewers when in fact many of us are recording it for off-air watching. I don't think repeats of Sex and the City or Kenneth Copeland are attracting big ratings, only to have a slump as BSG comes on. Nothing rates in the 1M - 2M viewer range post-midnight (live sport aside), otherwise the network would shift it to 8:30pm to get even more viewers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j0hn Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 How many viewers like me, Bishop and eyestrain have now switched off from the FTA BSG, Me, about two years back, add to that most sf programs that have hit our screens. However I still like to watch the broadcasts with higher PQ. Don't know about OZTAM but I agree with your other points. Edit: Like I still watch them but not so much FTA anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexF Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Yeah dude, channel 10 can get fracked! I just noticed the re-arrival of BSG as well but it is too late for Ch 10 now, when they pulled it off the air those couple of months ago I upped and joined Quickflix and have been enjoying season 2 of BSG at my convenience, not Ch frackin 10's. One more viewer lost to FTA and for no reason other than their slackness.It's not that they don't have the right to alter their schedule, of course they do, it's their station. But it's the total lack of communication before, during and after the event that bugs the hell out of me. OK, BSG was not averaging 1.7M viewers a week but still there are many thousands of people actually watching and these people were treated like prize chumps by Ten. There was no announcement that the show would go into hiatus for 2 months, no short 10 second on-screen notice at the scheduled time the first Wed night it was pulled, and no notification that it is back on, except if you happen to be scanning the program guide for post-midnight fare on Sunday. There is still no news of this on Ten's website, BSG isn't even listed as one of their programs. On one of these earlier posts someone had to go to the trouble of calling these cretins at Ten to even get an answer as to what had happened to BSG. It's like tracking down a forensic lead on a murder, with a similar effort level, just to find out what should be easily available. Memo to Ch Ten tosspots: THAT'S WHAT YOUR WEBSITE IS FOR, COMMUNICATION!!!! How many people out there, good-hearted citizens like myself, programmed their PVR/PC/VCR to record BSG those few months ago, only to awaken the next day to the idiotic ramblings of a bunch of D-grade celebrities on Joker Poker. And gee, hasn't that rated well for them??!! The only pokers doing the rounds at Ch 10 should be the ones that get rammed up the dates of management. It amazes me, in the increasingly firece battle FTA stations are fighting against piracy, the internet etc, you would think they would treat those still watching with a bit of concern, trying to keep them happy and watching those sponsor's ads. Instead, it's like they are trying to deliberately cast them off. Maybe they'll get a tax break if they become a not-for-profit ... And who the hell is gunna be watching TV at that god-forsaken hour of Monday morning? To quote Homer Simpson from the snow plough episode: "Alcoholics. The unemployed. Angry loners." Channel 10 - get f***ed! There, I feel better now ... I don't.... I hate you TEN! Just by accident today I learnt that you returned BSG yersterday (techincally, this morning) without even any kind of advertising. That's the only frakin' show I watch on your channel and still you managed to pi*s me off. Good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozdoc Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 BG is getting a bit complicated in the Ozdoc household. We're currently watching: Series 1 ep 6 - Scifi on Fox. Series 2 ep 12 - Channel 10 Series 3 ep 11 - c/o iprimus.. ...Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nimrod77 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 so has BSG been removed from our screens all together or is it only on Cable now???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthdury Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I don't....I hate you TEN! Just by accident today I learnt that you returned BSG yersterday (techincally, this morning) without even any kind of advertising. That's the only frakin' show I watch on your channel and still you managed to pi*s me off. Good one. In TV guide from the Herald yesterday it was listed as starting after the 4400...at 12:45am!! I mean really who is up at 12:45 on a Sunday night, this kind of programing just forces people to obtain their dose of Sci Fi from other (not to be named) sources...come on Channel 10 have you recently hired the channel 9 programmer?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozdoc Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 In TV guide from the Herald yesterday it was listed as starting after the 4400...at 12:45am!! I mean really who is up at 12:45 on a Sunday night, this kind of programing just forces people to obtain their dose of Sci Fi from other (not to be named) sources...come on Channel 10 have you recently hired the channel 9 programmer?? I guess one of current problems facing 10 with season 2 is how to run a show that is already widespread on the net, is available for rent, and can be bought at BigW. In my view, a flow of logic would suggest that a large percentage of BG viewers have already seen season 2... Therefore these viewers are watching it again on FTA to catch the High Def version... Given that most 'High Def' viewers are tech savy enough to own a PVR... Having a PVR means that it doesn't matter what time channel 10 show it. (and there's no point wasting prime time adds for PVR viewers ...) Hey I should get a job at 10. Personally, having a PVR, I don't mind it being on so late. At least it means less likelihood for timer clashes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthdury Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I guess one of current problems facing 10 with season 2 is how to run a show that is already widespread on the net, is available for rent, and can be bought at BigW. In my view, a flow of logic would suggest that a large percentage of BG viewers have already seen season 2... Therefore these viewers are watching it again on FTA to catch the High Def version... Given that most 'High Def' viewers are tech savy enough to own a PVR... Having a PVR means that it doesn't matter what time channel 10 show it. (and there's no point wasting prime time adds for PVR viewers ...) Hey I should get a job at 10. Personally, having a PVR, I don't mind it being on so late. At least it means less likelihood for timer clashes! Unless they decide to take it off for say Joker Poker or the uplate gameshow..or move it to 1:30 because some other show has run late then you are probably right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boric Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I guess one of current problems facing 10 with season 2 is how to run a show that is already widespread on the net, is available for rent, and can be bought at BigW. A problem of their own making. If they had bothered to show it a little earlier viewers like me would have watched it on ten and not rented/bought it. I expect I'll have no choice for season 3, I wonder if ten even bought the rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milorad Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I've begun to wonder, with networks only half-finishing shows, whether they have a stake in the DVD sales, LOL. Without a doubt, I've bought DVDs of shows I'd never have known about if the networks didn't put them on for a while, then axe them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phase5 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I don't....I hate you TEN! Just by accident today I learnt that you returned BSG yersterday (techincally, this morning) without even any kind of advertising. That's the only frakin' show I watch on your channel and still you managed to pi*s me off. Good one. I knew BSG was back on because I got my daily email from: http://www.yourtv.com.au/ warning me on the saturday and on the sunday. I still couldn't work up the energy to programme the Toppy to record it. "Ok, it says 12:45am, but that could mean 12:30am or 1:30am or they might just drop it ....:" Frack'em. I'll wait until i can afford the DVDs and then sit down and watch it all back to back. FTA. Is it redundant yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordvader1503559690 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Are you ****ing serious ? Letterman is on now instead of BSG !!! WTF !!! (in Melbourne BTW) Edit: OK, it MIGHT be at 12:45, according the 10's program guide, but it also says that home shopping is "next" This sucks. Final edit: So it was on last night then ? Crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJY Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I also noticed that it was in the tv guide... but when I flicked it over - nothing... Letterman?!?!?! sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozdoc Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Are you ****ing serious ?Letterman is on now instead of BSG !!! WTF !!! (in Melbourne BTW) Edit: OK, it MIGHT be at 12:45, according the 10's program guide, but it also says that home shopping is "next" This sucks. Final edit: So it was on last night then ? Crap I also noticed that it was in the tv guide... but when I flicked it over - nothing...Letterman?!?!?! sigh. Lads. 12.45 am Monday Jan 8th means 45 minutes past Sunday midnight. You can't blame 10 for that one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordvader1503559690 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I know .... but it's easier to blame 10 It turned out I had my recorder set up wrong. When I first found out BSG was back on, all the online tv guides for the 8th of January showed nothing on for 10 (literally), and then the guide on citysearch did the usual 2 shows on at the same time. Still, crap !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJY Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I was going off yourTV's guide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthdury Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 OK Everyone....BSG is on tonight (Sunday...not Monday) at 12:50am after The 4400!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyestrain Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 OK Everyone....BSG is on tonight (Sunday...not Monday) at 12:50am after The 4400!! Ta for that! Maybe due to the regular screening of The Late Show With David Letterman Monday to Friday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j0hn Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Two episodes this week starting on Sunday 21st Jan at 11:35pm to 1:30am Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordvader1503559690 Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Two episodes this week starting on Sunday 21st Jan at 11:35pm to 1:30am Monday I can see this in any guides ...... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyestrain Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 I can see this in any guides ...... ? The yourtv guide there is only 1 episode down as to be broadcast tonight. But to be on the safe side I've set the pvr for the extra hour. Better be safe than sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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