Does anyone know where I can buy an interconnect with a single male RCA at one end, going to two male RCA's at the other end?

I am aware that there are single female ended to double ended male leads available, but thats not what I want.

I currently use an adaptor to achieve the same thing, but I want to eliminate that link in the chain.

Prefered length is anywhere between 30cm to 1 met.

Any help will be appreciated

LuckDog

Does anyone know where I can buy an interconnect with a single male RCA at one end, going to two male RCA's at the other end?

I am aware that there are single female ended to double ended male leads available, but thats not what I want.

I currently use an adaptor to achieve the same thing, but I want to eliminate that link in the chain.

Prefered length is anywhere between 30cm to 1 met.

Any help will be appreciated

LuckDog

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How about making one? The quality will be equal or better to the purchased one and you can make it to your needs/taste.

HTH, Cheers

How about making one? The quality will be equal or better to the purchased one and you can make it to your needs/taste.

HTH, Cheers

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Thanks for the reply. Having never made interconnects before, if I make it what cable should I get? and where from? I can easily get the plugs. Should I solder or simply screw the plugs to the cable?

Cheers

Thanks for the reply. Having never made interconnects before, if I make it what cable should I get? and where from? I can easily get the plugs. Should I solder or simply screw the plugs to the cable?

Cheers

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Hello Luckydog,

1. What cable- Depends on whether it is for video or audio. For example for video it is better to use a well shielded 75Ohm coax. For audio you can use may things (and everyone has a different flavour they prefer or profess). You could try Dick Smith, Jaycar Electronics, Altronics, etc.. for some of the cable and connectors. You could also go more high end in cable type and use a teflon coax, clamping RCA plugs, Eichmann Bullet Plugs........ (it never ends)

2. You should always solder not screw. Of course you need to get the soldering iron and experience soldering. (You could try the WBT crimp system, but this would be expensive)

HTH

Cheers

Hello Luckydog,

1. What cable- Depends on whether it is for video or audio. For example for video it is better to use a well shielded 75Ohm coax. For audio you can use may things (and everyone has a different flavour they prefer or profess). You could try Dick Smith, Jaycar Electronics, Altronics, etc.. for some of the cable and connectors. You could also go more high end in cable type and use a teflon coax, clamping RCA plugs, Eichmann Bullet Plugs........ (it never ends)

2. You should always solder not screw. Of course you need to get the soldering iron and experience soldering. (You could try the WBT crimp system, but this would be expensive)

HTH

Cheers

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Thanks JA, I appreciate your help. I need the cable for Bi-amping my centre speaker (which I am currently doing with the use of an adaptor). Ultimately I want to have two speakers handling the centre's info, so I need to split the signal coming from the processor to the power amp.

I don't have a soldering iron, but I am warming to the idea of making one, but I don't want to undo the benefit and expense of getting a pair of speakers for the centre channel, only to have it affected by a dodgy connection.

Thanks Again.

You should be able to buy some cables from the likes of Jaycar, Dick Smith etc, or order one from HTCustomcables.

Thanks JA, I appreciate your help. I need the cable for Bi-amping my centre speaker (which I am currently doing with the use of an adaptor). Ultimately I want to have two speakers handling the centre's info, so I need to split the signal coming from the processor to the power amp.

I don't have a soldering iron, but I am warming to the idea of making one, but I don't want to undo the benefit and expense of getting a pair of speakers for the centre channel, only to have it affected by a dodgy connection.

Thanks Again.

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Hello Luckydog-

How are you going to Bi-amp? Sounds like you are considering doing it without active crossovers. Am I right? The reason I say that is because using an active crossover you would not need they Y adaptor. Since one signal would go into the active crossover and 2 or 3 would come out already frequency split for you, ready for your power amps.

In any event if making a Y adapter is your chosen path, I could help you make one.

Best

JA

You should be able to buy some cables from the likes of Jaycar, Dick Smith etc, or order one from HTCustomcables.

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Thanks Spearmint, the cable from HTCustomcables is perfect. I'll get one of them.

Cheers

LuckyDog

Hello Luckydog-

How are you going to Bi-amp? Sounds like you are considering doing it without active crossovers. Am I right? The reason I say that is because using an active crossover you would not need they Y adaptor. Since one signal would go into the active crossover and 2 or 3 would come out already frequency split for you, ready for your power amps.

In any event if making a Y adapter is your chosen path, I could help you make one.

Best

JA

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Hey JA, I guess what I am wanting to do is "shotgun" from the signal from the surround processor to two available channels I have in my 5 ch amp. Then I have separate speaker cable from both amp channels running to the twin binding posts on my current centre speaker. In this format, I'm sure it's adding bugger-all, but I want to get two speakers to take the centre ch info.

This may sound like a waste of time, but I prefer to listen to music DVD's in surround and I find at times the volume/info coming from the centre would be handled better with two identical speakers! Just a thought at this stage. But I reckon a pair of something like Interludes for a centre channel would be pretty cool!

Again, thanks for your advice.

LuckyDog

This may sound like a waste of time, but I prefer to listen to music DVD's in surround and I find at times the volume/info coming from the centre would be handled better with two identical speakers! Just a thought at this stage. But I reckon a pair of something like Interludes for a centre channel would be pretty cool!

Again, thanks for your advice.

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The old owner of secher runs two bookshelves as a centre... think it was two elac's the bookshelves made of metal with ribon tweeters.

Two interludes as a centre would be kewl

The old owner of secher runs two bookshelves as a centre... think it was two elac's the bookshelves made of metal with ribon tweeters.

Two interludes as a centre would be kewl

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Hi Drizt, he was the man who put the idea in my head some time back! Small world.

Thanks Spearmint, the cable from HTCustomcables is perfect. I'll get one of them.

Cheers

LuckyDog

Hey JA, I guess what I am wanting to do is "shotgun" from the signal from the surround processor to two available channels I have in my 5 ch amp. Then I have separate speaker cable from both amp channels running to the twin binding posts on my current centre speaker. In this format, I'm sure it's adding bugger-all, but I want to get two speakers to take the centre ch info.

This may sound like a waste of time, but I prefer to listen to music DVD's in surround and I find at times the volume/info coming from the centre would be handled better with two identical speakers! Just a thought at this stage. But I reckon a pair of something like Interludes for a centre channel would be pretty cool!

Again, thanks for your advice.

LuckyDog

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Hello Luckydog, you will certainly get more volume and this is an obvious benefit, since the load is shared between the 2 centre channels, BUT the high frequency response may be compromised. Having:

2 or more tweeters (particularly identical ones),

operating in the same frequency band and

in close proximity to each other

can (will) result in a comb filtered effect in the high frequency response from the speaker. The effect will vary with tweeter spacing and frequency and result in peaks and dips in the high frequencey response as the sound waves from the two tweeters add and cancel one another. As a result it will change the High frequency dispersion pattern.

If it were me and I wanted more clean SPL I would select a single higher efficeincy centre channel based on drivers from manufacturers such as Scanspeak, Focal, Seas, JBL, vIFA, Peerless... and other quality manufacturers, using only one tweeter. This effect is nowhere near as pronounced at lower frequencies so multiple drivers are OK there, ala MTM (D"Apollito) arrangement. Some purists would not agree though and say that even one bass is always better.

Please consider.

HTH

Best

JA

Hello Luckydog, you will certainly get more volume and this is an obvious benefit, since the load is shared between the 2 centre channels, BUT the high frequency response may be compromised. Having:

2 or more tweeters (particularly identical ones),

operating in the same frequency band and

in close proximity to each other

can (will) result in a comb filtered effect in the high frequency response from the speaker. The effect will vary with tweeter spacing and frequency and result in peaks and dips in the high frequencey response as the sound waves from the two tweeters add and cancel one another. As a result it will change the High frequency dispersion pattern.

If it were me and I wanted more clean SPL I would select a single higher efficeincy centre channel based on drivers from manufacturers such as Scanspeak, Focal, Seas, JBL, vIFA, Peerless... and other quality manufacturers, using only one tweeter. This effect is nowhere near as pronounced at lower frequencies so multiple drivers are OK there, ala MTM (D"Apollito) arrangement. Some purists would not agree though and say that even one bass is always better.

Please consider.

HTH

Best

JA

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Thanks JA, I guess I was planning on having the two speakers separated by a minimum of a meter or so (dependant on what works best), in-order to maintain expected localisation, while guarding against any cancellation of frequencies. But maybe I would be better off getting a single floorstander of better quality!

As I use a projector, the centre does not need to be mag shielded.

This is something that would require a home audition to see what works best and by the sounds, Greg from Osborne can/may accomodate.

I guess my logic is that 2 speakers sound superior to 1. But I could be fooling myself......and not for the first time!!

Cheers

LuckyDog

Jaycar on nepean hwy Frankston has those Y connectors for only a couple of bucks.If they work you could upgrade then if you wanted.

Thanks JA, I guess I was planning on having the two speakers separated by a minimum of a meter or so (dependant on what works best), in-order to maintain expected localisation, while guarding against any cancellation of frequencies. But maybe I would be better off getting a single floorstander of better quality!

As I use a projector, the centre does not need to be mag shielded.

This is something that would require a home audition to see what works best and by the sounds, Greg from Osborne can/may accomodate.

I guess my logic is that 2 speakers sound superior to 1. But I could be fooling myself......and not for the first time!!

Cheers

LuckyDog

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Thanks JA, I guess I was planning on having the two speakers separated by a minimum of a meter or so (dependant on what works best), in-order to maintain expected localisation, while guarding against any cancellation of frequencies. But maybe I would be better off getting a single floorstander of better quality!

As I use a projector, the centre does not need to be mag shielded.

This is something that would require a home audition to see what works best and by the sounds, Greg from Osborne can/may accomodate.

I guess my logic is that 2 speakers sound superior to 1. But I could be fooling myself......and not for the first time!!

Cheers

LuckyDog

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Hello Luckydog,

That raises another issue: If you separate your proposed 2 centre channels by a metre or so then they may appear as 2 distinct mono sound sources. This will create a more diffuse centre image (not the design intent of DD or DTS). Whilst the image(s) may appear to broaden, this may or may not result in a coherent centre image.(the degree to which they do will depend on distance and frequency).

Also if your left right speakers remain in their current positions these will then be closer to the either of the 2 centre channels and when an image steers from say the centre channel to the left channel, the perceived distance the sound has tracked may appear to be less. Of course it depends on how close your speakers are in the first place.

2 Centre channels? I could be wrong, but wasn't this at some stage suggested in one of Suraya's (hope I spelt that correctly if he is out there) systems from "Absolute High End?" in Hawthorn.

Take it all with a grain of salt- If you try it and it sounds good- do it.

Hello Luckydog,

That raises another issue: If you separate your proposed 2 centre channels by a metre or so then they may appear as 2 distinct mono sound sources. This will create a more diffuse centre image (not the design intent of DD or DTS). Whilst the image(s) may appear to broaden, this may or may not result in a coherent centre image.(the degree to which they do will depend on distance and frequency).

Also if your left right speakers remain in their current positions these will then be closer to the either of the 2 centre channels and when an image steers from say the centre channel to the left channel, the perceived distance the sound has tracked may appear to be less. Of course it depends on how close your speakers are in the first place.

2 Centre channels? I could be wrong, but wasn't this at some stage suggested in one of Suraya's (hope I spelt that correctly if he is out there) systems from "Absolute High End?" in Hawthorn.

Take it all with a grain of salt- If you try it and it sounds good- do it.

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Hey JA, lookin forward to meeting you all tomorrow night. Thanks for continuing to consider my proposed idea of 2 centre spkrs. I need to do a demo to work out what works and what does not. I may find that a well matched full-range single speaker is the way to go. All the points you make, make perfect sense and it may well not be worth the trouble. If I can get a single speaker from someone like Osborn it will certainly be cheaper than getting 2!

I was a customer of Suraya for a while and at the time he was against any centre at all with his 4 ch (plus subs) TASS pre. He seemed to dissappear very quickly.

Cheers

LuckyDog

Anyway, I could be just dreaming, but I think I will try.

If I can get a single speaker from someone like Osborn it will certainly be cheaper than getting 2!

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Thats something that I have toy'ed with in my head.

In the future I was thinking of Eclipse References' as mains and a C5 in reference spec, but now im leaning towards 3 Eclipse References (L, R & C) which would also work out a tiny bit cheaper.

Eclipse Reference are $5100 a set.

So a single used as a centre would be $2550

And 3 would be $7650

Compared to a $2760 for a reference version of the C5 (Normal C5 is $1960)

Edit: Lucky as the resident osborn junky , if you do end up auditioning some of greg osborn's gear, i'd be interest in having a listen to what it sounds like in your system.

ps. out of curiousity have you thought of using a third I-93 as a centre or would it be to big ??

Hey JA, lookin forward to meeting you all tomorrow night. Thanks for continuing to consider my proposed idea of 2 centre spkrs. I need to do a demo to work out what works and what does not. I may find that a well matched full-range single speaker is the way to go. All the points you make, make perfect sense and it may well not be worth the trouble. If I can get a single speaker from someone like Osborn it will certainly be cheaper than getting 2!

I was a customer of Suraya for a while and at the time he was against any centre at all with his 4 ch (plus subs) TASS pre. He seemed to dissappear very quickly.

Cheers

LuckyDog

Anyway, I could be just dreaming, but I think I will try.

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I was a customer of Suraya for a while and at the time he was against any centre at all with his 4 ch (plus subs) TASS pre. He seemed to dissappear very quickly.

Cheers

LuckyDog

Anyway, I could be just dreaming, but I think I will try.

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You are absolutely right about Suraya's dislike for the centre channel, now that I think of it he wrote a white paper entitled " That Pesky Centre Channel". He was a very nice helpful guy and ran a wonderful botique business in high end. I dont know what he is doing now.

JA

Thats something that I have toy'ed with in my head.

In the future I was thinking of Eclipse References' as mains and a C5 in reference spec, but now im leaning towards 3 Eclipse References (L, R & C) which would also work out a tiny bit cheaper.

Eclipse Reference are $5100 a set.

So a single used as a centre would be $2550

And 3 would be $7650

Compared to a $2760 for a reference version of the C5 (Normal C5 is $1960)

Edit: Lucky as the resident osborn junky , if you do end up auditioning some of greg osborn's gear, i'd be interest in having a listen to what it sounds like in your system.

ps. out of curiousity have you thought of using a third I-93 as a centre or would it be to big ??

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Hey Drizt

I am limited with the height of the cntr spkr to the botton of the projector screen, which is a max of about 1080mm. The screen is as close to the ceiling as I can get the big bugger. Even an I-66 is too tall. I have the I-91 centre now and at volume with music DVD's it can struggle. If I went for a lower model Vaf, I'm sure I would have voice matching issues as I would with non-Vaf speakers. As many of the Osborns are quite stumpy compared to some, they appear a solid choice. And I like Aussie made hifi gear!

When I get around to proceeding with this half brained experiment, I will happily let you know and if you feel like coming to sunny Mornington, you are most welcome, as is Jen for that matter. I hope her grazes are healing. Sounds like she may have been riding/crashing like some of the dudes in the Sun Tour!!

Cheers

LuckyDog

Hey Drizt

I am limited with the height of the cntr spkr to the botton of the projector screen, which is a max of about 1080mm. The screen is as close to the ceiling as I can get the big bugger. Even an I-66 is too tall. I have the I-91 centre now and at volume with music DVD's it can struggle. If I went for a lower model Vaf, I'm sure I would have voice matching issues as I would with non-Vaf speakers. As many of the Osborns are quite stumpy compared to some, they appear a solid choice. And I like Aussie made hifi gear!

When I get around to proceeding with this half brained experiment, I will happily let you know and if you feel like coming to sunny Mornington, you are most welcome, as is Jen for that matter. I hope her grazes are healing. Sounds like she may have been riding/crashing like some of the dudes in the Sun Tour!!

Cheers

LuckyDog

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The interludes are 855mm and the Eclipses are 1100mm in height, so the eclipses would be pushing it, would be interesting none the less. Maybe we could also grab a C5 just for comparisons sake if you were interested.

Definately, Jen would be interested. Shes starting healing quite well now, its about a week since she had her fall (taken a while to heal).