ptey Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 On 14/10/2009 at 11:09 PM, desray said: I set my Monitor output resolution to 'Source'. Depending on YOUR SOURCE, some of the players or media player (NMT) already output 1080p/24 hence when you used the on-board 1080p/24 from your AVR, it may 'conflict' and cause frequent image stutter. So set it to 'Through' in this instance...unless of course you believed that HQV Reon VX video processing capability is better than your SOURCE, then ensure that you disable the 1080p/24 on your source and set the AVR resolution under respective source to 1080p/24...it should remove the image judder/stutter now. Try it and let me know how it goes. Always remember that both source and destination (whenever possible) should not have the same 1080p/24 resolution as different manufacturers may utilize the resolution differently at different frame rate which may cause frame drop-outs. Continue to experiment it is the keyword... ps: To see the image quality on-the-fly, you can go to the source settings and 'adjust picture' - scroll down to the resolution option and press the 'OK' button on the remote controller to see the actual image quality. Yes, I have the same thought as yours but thinking of adjusting the resolution manually is kind of backward to me. ;D I like auto all the way... ;D
desray Posted October 15, 2009 Author Posted October 15, 2009 Actually there's nothing 'backward' about this...in fact you should send out interlace signal and allow HQV to do de-interlace for you and you will notice it actually better.
ptey Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 On 15/10/2009 at 7:17 AM, desray said: Actually there's nothing 'backward' about this...in fact you should send out interlace signal and allow HQV to do de-interlace for you and you will notice it actually better. Wow, a bit deep for me. can tech?? :-[
Avonez Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 The current Integra 9.9 has the flexibility to allow the main video output setup to force an output resolution for all input signals, as well as the ability to apply independent video settings to each input source. This lets you apply video processing to only the inputs you want and have a passthrough for the others. Hence, I think it would be highly possible for the Onkyo to have this feature as well. Set your main Resolution setting to Source, try tinkering with the Picture Adjust setting under the Source Setup. There is another Resolution setting there as well, I think it should work.
Avonez Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 On 15/10/2009 at 10:08 AM, in1voice said: Is Integra available in Singapore? I don't think so. It's a re-badge Onkyo for niche marketing, looks less refine though.
wizardofoz Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 I checked out the Itegra's in the USA last week and all seemed to be fixed US voltage - 120VAC in case anyone is having MO aspirations
ptey Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 Thanks to kiki-chew for coming to my house to help me setting up the Audyssey on my NR5007. I didn't know I has been listening to "noise" since my 875, 606, 706, 906 and 5007. First time I felt I am enjoying my Onkyo even it is still not fully calibrated. ;D
ptey Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 On 17/10/2009 at 10:36 AM, ralfale said: Hi What do you mean? Care to share? I thought the calibartion is very simple by placing the Audyssey mic in various position and I was always no sure whether I have done it right till today. I felt the power of the amp. and also the 9.1 effect first time after kiki-chew help me to calibrate my speakers and SW. And that is a long process of trail and error of about 2 hours. But it is still not fully calibrated as it is late for me. But I am very happy for the sound now. I will try to finish the calibartion using his advise when I have the time. So now I compare the sound effect again the setting I have done to my 875, 906, 5007 etc before I realise I am listening to very poor sound in the past. :-[
desray Posted October 17, 2009 Author Posted October 17, 2009 Who's kiki-chew? :P Anyway...care to share how kiki-chew did the calibration for you? Maybe something *new*? ;D
Avonez Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 Besides finetuning the speaker level and cross over settings, I am also curious to know what else can be done after running Audyssey setup, which is quite accurate. Adjust EQ settings from scratch? One main grouse is that you can't view the Audyssey EQ settings and hence unable to make finer adjustments there.
ptey Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 On 17/10/2009 at 12:58 PM, desray said: Who's kiki-chew? :P Anyway...care to share how kiki-chew did the calibration for you? Maybe something *new*? ;D He is a buyer who bought my HDX1000 and Elec 606, and happen he has a 806 and he spent times reading the setting of Audyssey. He is one our forumer here... I can't really explaint how he do it but to me it is a lot of different from the my past experiences with Onkyo. Kiki-chew if you happen to read this you may want to explain to them what is my mistake and how you correct my system.. ;D ;D
ptey Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 On 17/10/2009 at 1:23 PM, Avonez said: Besides finetuning the speaker level and cross over settings, I am also curious to know what else can be done after running Audyssey setup, which is quite accurate. Adjust EQ settings from scratch? One main grouse is that you can't view the Audyssey EQ settings and hence unable to make finer adjustments there. I think that it is no how he calibrate my speakers but maybe the wrong method I used on the Audyssey and he correct it. So I may have sounded too strong perhard it is somehing simple to you guys. ;D And the sound I am listening now is much much better compare to the past. ;D
ralfale Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 I am really curious if i am doing the wrong steps as well. All along i thought Audyssey is pretty automatic. I mearly let it run, and the cross over level and speaker distance are pretty accurate i feel. Next i will just use SPL meter to fine tune the speaker volume. Is there something that i miss?
ptey Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 On 17/10/2009 at 2:34 PM, ralfale said: I am really curious if i am doing the wrong steps as well. All along i thought Audyssey is pretty automatic. I mearly let it run, and the cross over level and speaker distance are pretty accurate i feel. Next i will just use SPL meter to fine tune the speaker volume. Is there something that i miss? I was told after the Audyssey calibration. The speakers level should be within +/-6 and SW should be +/- 3, if not the SW sould has to be adjusted accordingly and re-calibrate Audyssey again. Is this the same as yours? And it does make a lot of different for me after this. ;D
kiki-chew Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 On 17/10/2009 at 3:00 PM, ptey said: I was told after the Audyssey calibration. The speakers level should be within +/-6 and SW should be +/- 3, if not the SW sould has to be adjusted accordingly and re-calibrate Audyssey again. Is this the same as yours? And it does make a lot of different for me after this. ;D That is according to audyssey's set-up tips from AVS forum. ;) Quote I think that it is no how he calibrate my speakers but maybe the wrong method I used on the Audyssey and he correct it. So I may have sounded too strong perhard it is somehing simple to you guys. ;D And the sound I am listening now is much much better compare to the past. ;D Thx bro Ptey of letting me set-up his 5007, IIz and DSX are quite cool indeed. ;D
desray Posted October 17, 2009 Author Posted October 17, 2009 Actually there's no magic or any other way to improve 5.1/7.1 speaker setups except to ensure that the golden rule and fundamentals are correctly implemented. Meaning all the speakers reads the same SPL reading (75 - 80db)...Both Audyssey and YPAO's internal pink noise emits test tones at 80db and it is pretty accurate AFAIK - you can use a digital or analog SPL meter to measure the after-calibration reading for your all speakers and it should stay within a std dev of +/-3db which is considered acceptable. The hardest part which is also the most important part of all is actually getting the correct cross-over and phase control settings right in order to get the loudest and tightest sounding mid-bass - and this requires really some effort to play with the subwoofer placement as well as treating the room modes - for many of us, we do not own a secondary piece of equipment to tame the boominess of our bass which is actually the cause of you not enjoying your HT experience to the fullest. Not loud but tight and one-beat bass is what makes your HT sound system 'shine'... For those w/o a BFD or EQ to tame the subwoofer, you will need to rely on your AVR to 'tame' it for you and Audyssey Multi XT EQ coupled with Dynamic EQ in the latest NR1007/3007/5007 models have helped to make your existing HT sound system 'sound' even better even w/o a dedicated subwoofer EQ IMO. Another thing to note is proper speaker placement...and as far as possible, try to set the LCR at equidistant and toe-in towards your listening position whenever possible. Same goes for Surround and Surround Back speakers too. So ptey, did you follow all the abovementioned rules I've mentioned earlier?
ptey Posted October 17, 2009 Posted October 17, 2009 On 17/10/2009 at 3:40 PM, desray said: Actually there's no magic or any other way to improve 5.1/7.1 speaker setups except to ensure that the golden rule and fundamentals are correctly implemented. Meaning all the speakers reads the same SPL reading (75 - 80db)...Both Audyssey and YPAO's internal pink noise emits test tones at 80db and it is pretty accurate AFAIK - you can use a digital or analog SPL meter to measure the after-calibration reading for your all speakers and it should stay within a std dev of +/-3db which is considered acceptable. The hardest part which is also the most important part of all is actually getting the correct cross-over and phase control settings right in order to get the loudest and tightest sounding mid-bass - and this requires really some effort to play with the subwoofer placement as well as treating the room modes - for many of us, we do not own a secondary piece of equipment to tame the boominess of our bass which is actually the cause of you not enjoying your HT experience to the fullest. Not loud but tight and one-beat bass is what makes your HT sound system 'shine'... For those w/o a BFD or EQ to tame the subwoofer, you will need to rely on your AVR to 'tame' it for you and Audyssey Multi XT EQ coupled with Dynamic EQ in the latest NR1007/3007/5007 models have helped to make your existing HT sound system 'sound' even better even w/o a dedicated subwoofer EQ IMO. Another thing to note is proper speaker placement...and as far as possible, try to set the LCR at equidistant and toe-in towards your listening position whenever possible. Same goes for Surround and Surround Back speakers too. So ptey, did you follow all the abovementioned rules I've mentioned earlier? A bit catch no ball lie.. OK, I think my speakers placement is quite close to those diagram as I have quite a big and square room that help. But my SW may not be in the optima position and the setting according to KiKi-Chew is also not correct. So I have to reposition my SW to the corner. ;D
desray Posted October 18, 2009 Author Posted October 18, 2009 On 17/10/2009 at 4:06 PM, ptey said: A bit catch no ball lie.. OK, I think my speakers placement is quite close to those diagram as I have quite a big and square room that help. But my SW may not be in the optima position and the setting according to KiKi-Chew is also not correct. So I have to reposition my SW to the corner. ;D LoL...there's still alot to learn bro.
n3wk1d Posted October 18, 2009 Posted October 18, 2009 This is quite correct I might say. Having to play around my ex-Marantz 5003 with my Diamond 9.1 and 10" MJ-Acuastic sub. I've spend quite some times looking at placing the speakers, calibrate and recalibrate, changing speaker cables. Lot's of works and I must say it does works for me. I can feel my subs are working fine, the cross over are set to what I desire at, throwing the low to the sub when it's required. My 9.1 aren't so bad after all, just misses the mid to high. On the treatment side, I strongly believe in room treatment. But due to our house or room are shared with our family member, we have to do with what we can do. The Audessy and YPAO are both quite accurate I might say, even thought the YPAO only take in I possition and a lot simpler then Audessy. It did a good job, I just need some minor adjustment on the sub after the YPAO calibration. I might not fully understand what's Audessy PLIIx or DSX all about but I only know how my HT wanna sound like, hearing what I supposed to hear when I play my BDs and stereo. With my limited resources and "mulah", I have to adjust to what I have and max out what my toys can do. On 17/10/2009 at 3:40 PM, desray said: Actually there's no magic or any other way to improve 5.1/7.1 speaker setups except to ensure that the golden rule and fundamentals are correctly implemented. Meaning all the speakers reads the same SPL reading (75 - 80db)...Both Audyssey and YPAO's internal pink noise emits test tones at 80db and it is pretty accurate AFAIK - you can use a digital or analog SPL meter to measure the after-calibration reading for your all speakers and it should stay within a std dev of +/-3db which is considered acceptable. The hardest part which is also the most important part of all is actually getting the correct cross-over and phase control settings right in order to get the loudest and tightest sounding mid-bass - and this requires really some effort to play with the subwoofer placement as well as treating the room modes - for many of us, we do not own a secondary piece of equipment to tame the boominess of our bass which is actually the cause of you not enjoying your HT experience to the fullest. Not loud but tight and one-beat bass is what makes your HT sound system 'shine'... For those w/o a BFD or EQ to tame the subwoofer, you will need to rely on your AVR to 'tame' it for you and Audyssey Multi XT EQ coupled with Dynamic EQ in the latest NR1007/3007/5007 models have helped to make your existing HT sound system 'sound' even better even w/o a dedicated subwoofer EQ IMO. Another thing to note is proper speaker placement...and as far as possible, try to set the LCR at equidistant and toe-in towards your listening position whenever possible. Same goes for Surround and Surround Back speakers too. So ptey, did you follow all the above mentioned rules I've mentioned earlier?
ptey Posted October 18, 2009 Posted October 18, 2009 On 18/10/2009 at 12:58 AM, desray said: LoL...there's still alot to learn bro. :-[ :-[ :-[
kiki-chew Posted October 18, 2009 Posted October 18, 2009 On 18/10/2009 at 2:37 AM, n3wk1d said: On the treatment side, I strongly believe in room treatment. But due to our house or room are shared with our family member, we have to do with what we can do. Agreed, passive treatment + correct positioning are the gospel truth, alas, same dilemma i have. (i only have one spot for my sub placement, crawling on floor for ideal sub location is a no-no) :( Quote I might not fully understand what's Audessy PLIIx or DSX all about but I only know how my HT wanna sound like, hearing what I supposed to hear when I play my BDs and stereo. With my limited resources and "mulah", I have to adjust to what I have and max out what my toys can do. Where is the $$$$ when we need them most? ??? As long as we are happy within ours means... Having said that, i am a sucker for auto set-up tech, they have come a long way since MCACC, and we have paid for it, might as well use it. And may be most of u will have had read it, here is the step by step guide, updated to cover Denon AVR-4310 even: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14456895#post14456895
Avonez Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 New firmware update available for all x007 AVR and pre/pro. Some AVS forumers have problems updating from the network connections, try USB will be safer. Released 28 October 2009 A firmware update for the PR-SC5507 network controller is now available through the unit’s network connection or USB input. The update concerns the following: Improves picture quality for iPod/iPhone through the UP-A1 Dock for the iPod; Improves operability of internet radio. http://www.intl.onkyo.com/support/firmware/index.html
ptey Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Updated my NR5007 using Net and no problem for me. Very fast too. ;D
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