bluedog Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Selling my Perreaux Vaf combination if anyone is intereasted http://www.trademe.co.nz/electronics-photography/home-audio/full-systems/auction-502689925.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marantz Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Upgraditus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedog Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 Yep going to try a different path just for the hell of it i think if they sell, maybe valves or something along those lines getting older i guess ;-) looking at different options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marantz Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Good luck with the sale, looks like a lovely combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedog Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 Yea not sure i am doing the right thing really but will give it a shot and then play if they sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electra Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Ah BD, you need to buy something like my system if your after the uncompressed dynamics and bass slam Not sure where you will find something like that for semi reasonable money though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
got tinnitus Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 too_tall;169897 wrote: Ah BD, you need to buy something like my system if your after the uncompressed dynamics and bass slam Not sure where you will find something like that for semi reasonable money though. Come on T_T.... Flop it out mate! Show us what u got :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernie1553552694 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 too_tall;169897 wrote: Ah BD, you need to buy something like my system if your after the uncompressed dynamics and bass slam Not sure where you will find something like that for semi reasonable money though. A decent headphone setup will leave you with money to pass onto your kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electra Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 got tinnitus;169898 wrote: Come on T_T.... Flop it out mate! Show us what u got :eek: Don't want to embarrass you GT... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electra Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Ernie;169900 wrote: A decent headphone setup will leave you with money to pass onto your kids. Not something you can share with your friends and family easily. Specially with kids coming home with head lice!. And whilst HP's can give detail and full range reproduction, I have never gelled with the lack of room integration they offer, nor with the lack of the ability to "hear with your body" in the lower octaves. Good for lower cost hifi reproduction or in situations you have to be quiet, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
got tinnitus Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 too_tall;169901 wrote: Don't want to embarrass you GT... Modest, much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedog Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 Not sure if many are familiar with Vaf research in NZ had a heap of people looking though :-) it will be interesting to see if they sell, not the easiest of times to be trying i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeman Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 could be interested in a trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedog Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 beeman;170025 wrote: could be interested in a trade? Hi beeman what did you have in mind ? i think i have already decided on my next move whole sale changes but need to have a listen first ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeman Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 amp & speaker swap? though if you are after smaller 200 watts of valves & K2's may not do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedog Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 beeman;170033 wrote: amp & speaker swap? though if you are after smaller 200 watts of valves & K2's may not do it? What size room have you got ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedog Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Pm me and i can call you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedog Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Intereasting day must say a good audiofile m8 of mine sugested i changed my room around for a play well sh%t what a huge differance increadable if only i could leave it like this my room has been doubling the bass output from these monsters and turning them around has just made them sound so so so much better but sadly her indoors wont give the green light to this setup so someone is going to score an increadable set of speakers. I have heard them in a big room and they were amazing and with this set up they are sounding almost as good as in that room. Attached files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryNZ Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Certainly a great looking speaker - maybe you should keep them and sell her indoors instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedog Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Maybe :rolleyes: but i have set up the room for my home theater as well so not really practacal to move better i think to get something smaller that wont pick the room up so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedog Posted August 15, 2012 Author Share Posted August 15, 2012 Maybe :rolleyes: but i have set up the room for my home theater as well so not really practacal to move better i think to get something smaller that wont pick the room up so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotokan Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 That looks much more like it! You will need to get the eqpt on racks and sorted before you can refine the position etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electra Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Bluedog, have you tried different amplification? That could clean up the bass department significantly. Regarding the triamping, your still getting the amplifiers to send out full range signals ( although the load is not the same ), the amplifier channel driving the tweeters is still outputting the same sort of voltage swings that the woofer channel is outputting, and still drawing on the same power supply which has been loaded by the woofer channels... Also your still getting the signal molested with via the crossovers just as much. There can be benefit to triamping, but in my experience, the only time you get significant benefit is to get rid of all those inductors, capacitors and resistors between the amplifier and the speaker driver itself. You also get far better efficiency of the system as a whole. Remember that often what is actually really making the load difficult for an amplifier is not the speaker driver/cabinet interaction, but the crossover points causing all sorts of funny loadings on top of the driver/cabinet load. Whilst I am a fan of Perreaux amplifiers, I would not personally have the 6160 driving my main speakers, but thats a subjective thing. What I would suggest to you is that if you do love your VAF's so much, you could well regret the sale in a few months time, and then where will you be? What alternate amplification have you tried? And have you considered bypassing all the crossover circuitry and running active crossovers with your 6160? All options which you should consider at least. Doing this will allow you to tune each drivers range to suit your room, so you can tap the bass back a little to help balance things out. Or maybe bring the midrange a little further forward in the mix - its simple, and can make a significant difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedog Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 webbed;170090 wrote: That looks much more like it! You will need to get the eqpt on racks and sorted before you can refine the position etc. Hi webbed yes it is much much better they can now breath a bit better thats for sure, but it can't stay this way doors pool projector etc etc but it was worth a play never the less :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedog Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 too_tall;170092 wrote: Bluedog, have you tried different amplification? That could clean up the bass department significantly. Regarding the triamping, your still getting the amplifiers to send out full range signals ( although the load is not the same ), the amplifier channel driving the tweeters is still outputting the same sort of voltage swings that the woofer channel is outputting, and still drawing on the same power supply which has been loaded by the woofer channels... Also your still getting the signal molested with via the crossovers just as much. There can be benefit to triamping, but in my experience, the only time you get significant benefit is to get rid of all those inductors, capacitors and resistors between the amplifier and the speaker driver itself. You also get far better efficiency of the system as a whole. Remember that often what is actually really making the load difficult for an amplifier is not the speaker driver/cabinet interaction, but the crossover points causing all sorts of funny loadings on top of the driver/cabinet load. Whilst I am a fan of Perreaux amplifiers, I would not personally have the 6160 driving my main speakers, but thats a subjective thing. What I would suggest to you is that if you do love your VAF's so much, you could well regret the sale in a few months time, and then where will you be? What alternate amplification have you tried? And have you considered bypassing all the crossover circuitry and running active crossovers with your 6160? All options which you should consider at least. Doing this will allow you to tune each drivers range to suit your room, so you can tap the bass back a little to help balance things out. Or maybe bring the midrange a little further forward in the mix - its simple, and can make a significant difference. Hi Too tall no i haven't played with alternative amps as yet no spare money to spend after marriage split so down sizing was my best option i thought at the moment. probably live to regret it but such is life. I would love to have tried a 350 perreaux on them but just can't go there at the moment:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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