pugs Posted January 16, 2005 Posted January 16, 2005 Craig mentioned that he listened to Kasey Chambers when trying out his Krell: Craig F's Krell Thread Casey Chambers writes some wonderful songs (Nullarbor Song from Barricades and Brickwalls is simply stunning) but hell the voice and recordings grate. The didn't grate any less through the Krell but the quality of the music was more obvious. I agree about her writing but it appears that I enjoy her voice more than Craig does. She's more 'raw' than most female vocalists and seems to put her honesty and emotion into her singing. There are plenty of great vocalists who don't 'sing' well While searching for Craig's comment, I found this older thread: lissp In this, I discovered that some recordings of Chambers & Bic Runga, both of whom I very much enjoy, are considered to be nigh on unlistenable because of sibilance :eek:. And I have all of Bic's albums so I must have the guilty recordings. Well, I was aware of the sibilance and I understood that it was partly in the recording. However, I also thought that it was partly due to my system. And I've been trying to tame it, with some success! So, I must have succeeded in making my system less neutral. Oh no! (Actually, test tones did show that my system was bright around 3 kHz, so maybe I have a genuine case of system sibilance... or maybe I'm just feeling I need justify my audiophoolishness). Anyway, it's all good listening. I was just amused to find that I seem to have been attracting this sibilance on both system and music fronts! Now, did I mention that I have a load of trumpet jazz which is also bright in that region .... :rolleyes:
Ayn Marx Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 Originally posted by pugs Large Snip<............. Now, did I mention that I have a load of trumpet jazz which is also bright in that region .... :rolleyes: That may just be the room talking back. Listening rooms that aren't sufficiently damped are often the ones that make trumpets unlistenable in the playback. To test this get a real live trumeter to play in your room . Bet you'll run screaming out of there very fast.
craig f Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 Originally posted by pugs Craig mentioned that he listened to Kasey Chambers when trying out his Krell: I agree about her writing but it appears that I enjoy her voice more than Craig does. She's more 'raw' than most female vocalists and seems to put her honesty and emotion into her singing. There are plenty of great vocalists who don't 'sing' well G'day Pugs, I can't tell you how many times I listened to and been moved by Nullarbor Song. Actually that entire album gets lots of play. I agree totally that she communicates emotion with great ease. BUT . . . that doesn't mean that I like the pure sonics of her voice. I'm sure with a more sympathetic mic and recording technique they could retain the emotion yet improve the sonics. I have a big collection of Tom Waits and Willie Nelson, both of whos music I enjoy greatly but I'm not going to say that they sound great. Cheers, Craig.
otisredding Posted January 23, 2005 Posted January 23, 2005 Originally posted by Ayn Marx That may just be the room talking back. Listening rooms that aren't sufficiently damped are often the ones that make trumpets unlistenable in the playback. To test this get a real live trumeter to play in your room . Bet you'll run screaming out of there very fast. NB folks. It is ALWAYS advisable to run away from live trumpet players! They always have the worst jokes too. BTW, I have nicknamed the entire brass and woodwind fraternity 'plumbers'. In my experience they arrive just in time to get the job done, p*** around loudly with pieces of pipe for an hour or two and then charge far too much! Whoops thread doo doo........
pugs Posted January 24, 2005 Author Posted January 24, 2005 How do you do that Ayn? You been watching? Yes, a live trumpeter plays in my listening room most nights. Well - I should say a "try to be a trumpeter". Now, nobody other than the kids listen to me, and they do run away or laugh. I'm sure its the playing though rather than the subtlety of acoustics. My room may be quite lively - and for practicing that can help. If you play toward a corner it can help you to hear yourself. Improve your tone ... And Darren, I won't tell any jokes and I don't suppose I'll ever get paid, so I'm clearly not a real trumpeter. Actually I may owe Darren some thanks. I think I've followed some of his previous experience, on getting more from budget floorstanders. Most recently added 5 kg on top of each and toed them back out, to straight, which seemed to tame a little brightness. Also have them clear of side and rear walls, spiked onto paving slabs and biwired. Always difficult to say which steps really helped, but each seemd good. Overall I seem to have reduced the upper/mid brightness and added some low end balance and tonality. Lets me enjoy Bic, Kasey, Miles, Tomas, Clifford, Lee ... (oh and James Morrison - for those from Oz )
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