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Can any one confirm that with this model that one you edit ads out of a recording or top and tail that you can no longer FF or RW the recording?

Yes, that is correct. There are options though:

1. (the easiest) don't edit :) - seriously, disks are big enough these days that people don't tend to edit out stuff anymore. Unless you want to burn stuff to DVD then it's best to edit on a PC as it is much finer grained.

2. Run a rebuild TAP. This TAP will run in the background and rebuild you nav file for you.

3. Don't FFWD, just skip. You can still skip through the file.

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Yes, that is correct. There are options though:

1. (the easiest) don't edit :) - seriously, disks are big enough these days that people don't tend to edit out stuff anymore. Unless you want to burn stuff to DVD then it's best to edit on a PC as it is much finer grained.

2. Run a rebuild TAP. This TAP will run in the background and rebuild you nav file for you.

3. Don't FFWD, just skip. You can still skip through the file.

Thanks for the info. I do tend to do a lot of edited programs for the kids which they tend to watch over and over again which results in a build up of pograms where with mine I just watch and delete. However the advantages of the toppy do seem to be way more than toher PVRs with the only other one coming close to my requirement being the Strong 5495A. Would have also consodered a beyonwiz put from all reports I am told that the FF is not very smooth and useless for watching stuff like motor racing at fast speed.

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Would have also consodered a beyonwiz put from all reports I am told that the FF is not very smooth and useless for watching stuff like motor racing at fast speed.
4x speed is fine, sometimes I do that for the MotoGP qualy for example.

And you don't have to jump thru hoops to do file edits on the Wiz, they are a breeze, with edit options of "remove selected, keep selected, copy selected to a new file" etc (and rapid, a typical selection of the show to top/tail takes about 5 or 10secs to select and edit out).

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Ended up getting the 7160 and the picture quality (was ptretty poor with my mediastar 920 with lots of red saturation), FF, ease of use etc is great. As expected after an edit I cannot FF which I can live with. Also a bit disappointed with edit out ads function which I do for shows like the simpsons for the kids. My other PVR allows cut increments of 5 sec plus a standard 30 sec ad skip function. This one seems to be tied to the value you set the skip value to (in my case 30sec) which means I can only edit to an accuracy of 30 sec unless I change it. Will do some more redaing and look at TAPs that may help when I get some free time.

Sent my wife out to do the buying as she is better looking than me! Got a good deal with PVR for $398, 2 x $35 HDMI cables for $50, and an external 1TB drive for $89. JB at forest hill. Also got the Panansonic P50V at same place for $1300. Amazing value when I think that back in 2004 I spent $2300 on a SD STB and a 32" widescreen CRT!.

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Hi all I am new here,

I Got this product about two weeks ago from JB-HI-FI ...

I have a question about this product.

Is it possible if I can connect the Topfield TRF 7160 PVR to my DVD Recorder? So I Can recorded my shows that are on my PVR To my DVD Disc?

Or is there a way to copy my files recorded on the PVR To my USB?

If someone can reply this question that would be much appreciated thank you :D

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I think Peter was referring to automatic padding if the show is running overtime, rather than having a standard padding setting.

Is $510 a good deal for the Topfield 2400??? It is tempting.

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Is $510 a good deal for the Topfield 2400??? It is tempting.

Not bad, but not a great deal. I got mine last year for $499 from Good Guys and you would normally expect things to get cheaper over time - especially with the Aussie $ so strong. Still, if that's the best current price available and you want one then I don't think you'll be disappointed.

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Is $510 a good deal for the Topfield 2400??? It is tempting.

Yes.

Anything around the $500 mark or just over is a fantastic price for them, if you don't want to hover and haggle.

Just got one for $520 from Harvey Norman at Bundall, shelf price. Got them to throw in the extra 4 year warranty at the same money.

Edited by Bazzaa
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Just picked up one of these today for $379 from Myer.

Question, does that blue light around the central button on the front glow the whole time the thing has power to it from the wall socket? Even in standby mode?

Ta!

  • 1 month later...
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In the latest Harvey Norman catalog there is an ad for this Toppy.

I'm still running an SD model (TRF4400). Reliable and so on but limited in functionality.

I had a quick look at the details of the 7160. It has a network connection but I'm not sure what it is supposed to do for you, other than perhaps use the ICE TV EPG service, maybe.

Am I correct in thinking that it won't play media files off the local network?

Are there any Topfield models that do this? My son in law bought a Beyonwiz recently for around $400 which does have this network capability. I would hope that the Toppys do as well given that this one is more expensive.

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In the latest Harvey Norman catalog there is an ad for this Toppy.

I'm still running an SD model (TRF4400). Reliable and so on but limited in functionality.

I had a quick look at the details of the 7160. It has a network connection but I'm not sure what it is supposed to do for you, other than perhaps use the ICE TV EPG service, maybe.

Am I correct in thinking that it won't play media files off the local network?

Are there any Topfield models that do this? My son in law bought a Beyonwiz recently for around $400 which does have this network capability. I would hope that the Toppys do as well given that this one is more expensive.

The current Topfield HD models (7100+, 7160, 2400, 2460) all have network capability. The high end 2400/2460 have DLNA which means you can stream content from/to other devices on the network that support DLNA or UPnP, even to your mobile (if you have the right codec on it). All of them can play "media" from their local devices.

The main difference between the other models is that the 7100+ doesn't have DLNA but does support icetv. The 7160 does not support icetv nor DLNA.

However, all these boxes support TAPs. These are user written apps for the PVR - think of iphone apps and you get the idea. There are TAPs that allow you to mount a NAS disk as though it was a local disk and you can play directly from it. These TAPs are supported on all the HD PVRs listed above. So in effect they can play network media content because it looks like a local device.

Now, I won't say that these boxes will play all of your media but it does play mp4, avi, divx, vob, mpg2, etc. There are certain variations which it doesn't support. I've never used a Beyonwiz but some have said it plays a greater variety of media but if you have control over how the media is created then you can obviously create them in a playable format.

Additionally these boxes support USB attached disks, from which you can play the media. The high end boxes can use eSata attached devices as well.

  • 2 weeks later...
Guest metalrules
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just posted in the pinned "Topfield FAQ" topic, but here's probably better - bought a 7160 @ HN for $359 on the weekend (on a 20% storewide sale). Seems a good price to me ? (didn't bother to haggle or anything)

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For what it's worth ... just picked one up from DSE to replace a 10 yr old VCR that played it's last tape last night - sad.

The best I could do was $415 - as we needed something up and running this evening before going to dinner.

Paid Amex to take advantage of the $50 rebate promo and got a few Qantas points as well.

Picked DSE for their 14 day refund policy.

So far it seems like a nice unit. Two pet hates so far ... yes that blue light - I have a feeling some black tape will fix that.

And secondly, it seems 'slow' to power up vs our 7 year old LG LST-4100P HD set top box (which still works perfectly).

The PVR display reads "Loading", then eventually displays a picture. From hitting the on button on the remote to a picture on screen is approx 10 - 12 secs. This could be a deal breaker.

If anyone knows how to kick this sucker up quicker, I'd appreciate it.

I think I've disabled all the "slow" stuff that I can think of ...

Settings if this helps:

* Time shifting: Disabled

* AV output: set to 1080 (have disabled "auto")

* System status: "last updated 10 Feb 2011"

* Loader: V1.03

* Device version: V1.0.1

* Application version: TF-BCPF 1.06.00

Can anyone with the TRF-7160 advise how long it takes their unit from remote button ON to a picture on the tube ?

Edited by Big W

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Two pet hates so far ... yes that blue light - I have a feeling some black tape will fix that.

I found a small, black washer in my garage - probably off a hose connection - which hangs quite nicely on the centre on/off button. Result is just a tiny crescent of blue below the washer. Perfect. Just don't lose the washer when your wife does some dusting!

Jim.

Guest tccp123
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You might like to check out Toppy tips

  • Red always skips forward for 1 min
  • Yellow skips forward by the amount you specify in the setup Menu
  • Blue always skips backwards 10 sec.
  • These keys also work when you are Time Shifting or Chase Playing.

Regards

Peter Gillespie

Hi. I have these keys mapped onto a Harmony remote and generally they do exactly what you'd expect. However every now and again (for no APPARENT reason) the blue key changes its behaviour and skips forward instead of backward. I haven't done enough testing to say when it reverts to its intended behaviour but it does within a short space of time. I've also noticed that if there are bookmarks set in the program the yellow key also changes its behaviour and skips from bookmark to bookmark (I only discovered this while playing around with the Toppy remote today). I'm assuming this is by design but the intermittent change in behaviour of the blue key has me stumped. Anyone else experienced this or can hazard a suggestion why?

Thanks,

Tony

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So far it seems like a nice unit. Two pet hates so far ... yes that blue light - I have a feeling some black tape will fix that.

And secondly, it seems 'slow' to power up vs our 7 year old LG LST-4100P HD set top box (which still works perfectly).

The PVR display reads "Loading", then eventually displays a picture. From hitting the on button on the remote to a picture on screen is approx 10 - 12 secs. This could be a deal breaker.

Can anyone with the TRF-7160 advise how long it takes their unit from remote button ON to a picture on the tube ?

Hi. Two things:

You get used to the blue light :-)

My 7160 took 19 secs to boot just a minute ago. Again, you get used to it. I have a Harmony remote so I just press "Play TV" then go to the fridge. When I get back the TV has been turned on and changed to the correct input, the Toppy has been turned on, and the amp has been turned on and changed to the correct input. No problem...

Cheers,

Tony

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Hi. Two things:

You get used to the blue light :-)

My 7160 took 19 secs to boot just a minute ago. Again, you get used to it.

Cheers,

Tony

I would expect it to be almost instant. Firing up the tuner part of the unit should be very quick, and to spin up a drive is only a few secs. 12 - 19 secs is way long in my book. May be my expectations are unrealistic.

It still goes to show that these devices have a long way to go IMHO.

And for what they are, the hardware should cost <$150, not these crazy $400-ish points.

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I would expect it to be almost instant. Firing up the tuner part of the unit should be very quick, and to spin up a drive is only a few secs. 12 - 19 secs is way long in my book. May be my expectations are unrealistic.

...

In many PVRs, Beyonwiz and Topfields included, "Standby" is much more like "Powered Off" on a PC, than a PC's Standby (or Hibernate) mode.

When a Beyonwiz or Topfield (and many other brands, too) comes out of its standby mode, it has to load its operating system and load the application programs that run it, as well as spinning up the disk and turn on the tuner.

In PVRs that come out of standby very quickly (TiVo is one, but there are others), "standby" simply means little more than "turn off the video and audio outputs and run everything else, possibly spin down the HDD". They consume considerably more power in standby than PVRs like the Topfields or Beyonwizes that power off everything except their front panel when in standby.

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