Craig M Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 It's a pretty poor effort not to see Flash Forward in HD on Channel 70. We've only been given SD upconverted. Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymy01 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Oh you are kidding? Grrr.... I mean, ditching the breakaway is one thing (but most of the breakaway stuff lately has been 4:3/SD upscaled) but I thought the ditching of breakaway would mean all the good stuff I love on SD would be HD if they source it as that.. At least it was on the HD channel, as that is the one I recorded (haven't had a chance to watch it yet)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyllip Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Was wondering why it didn't look as flawless as LOST. In fact, it looked like absolute bologna! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigg Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Was wondering why it didn't look as flawless as LOST. In fact, it looked like absolute bologna! +1, and Foxtel HD certainly spoils us HD watchers! Bring on HD movies Foxtel, can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMan Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I assumed >>this<< was the reason ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scratchycat Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I might be talking crazy here but I thought it started out in HD then went back to U/C SD a few minutes into it. Could this be possible? It was probably me seeing/hearing things tho cause I was tired and fell asleep halfway through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymy01 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I assumed >>this<< was the reason ?That thread doesn't say anything about 7HD gone, just that the bitrate has gone down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurora8 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 (edited) It was always scheduled as widescreen only aka not in HD. Same for Mercy, was that not shown in HD also? Does anyone know if these two were filmed in HD or were they both actually SD only? If not in HD, then that is really poor form from ABC (US). Edited September 28, 2009 by cpandilo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymy01 Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 From what I remember, anything widescreen in the US (in television/cable) is HD. They didn't have a 16:9 SD standard like the rest of the world did, apart from DVD..... Of course, this is probably very wrong, but I read it on dtvforum, so it must be fact :-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topdog Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 (edited) Very poor quality PQ ,found the SD channel was better than the HD..and all they did was spoil all the commercials they jammed in...and all those f@#$ing banners..I have to agree with one of the posters here that HD, the way it seems to be heading, is looking like it will be one of the biggest cons ever perpetrated on the Australian public... Edited September 29, 2009 by Topdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig M Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 Very poor quality PQ ,found the SD channel was better than the HD..and all they did was spoil all the commercials they jammed in...and all those f@#$ing banners..I have to agree with one of the posters here that HD, the way it seems to be heading, is looking like it will be one of the biggest cons ever perpetrated on the Australian public... As more and more 1080 x 1920p HDTV sets get sold in Australia, there are fewer and fewer hours of actual native HD being transmitted. A very sad state of affairs. First it was watered down to 1080 x 1440i. What's the bet that it will degrade to 720p (poorly deinterlaced from 1080i internally at the networks), then right down to 576p 'ED' in order to fit all the proposed low bitrate SD channels in. Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dork(original) Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 (edited) HD TV in Australia is going to prove to be the biggest CON ever perpetrated on the Australian Public.Retailers telling us you must have "True HD" gear, then the only stuff that's transmitted is pretend HD or 720 at best. What crap! Write to the bozo's that are in charge of communication in Canberra!. Here is Bozo's email address.It just makes me mad the way this is going,down the shitter. minister@dbcde.gov.au Paul. Edited September 29, 2009 by Paul_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwd Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 (edited) No 7HD logo here it was the same logo as the SD channel and the same PQ as the SD channel. Seems to be broadcast here at the same time as the on in the USA not three weeks behind. Edited September 29, 2009 by mwd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterca Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Seems to be broadcast here at the same time as the on in the USA not three weeks behind. I believe it was shown in the US last Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMB Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Channel 7 really are stupid Last night, Packed to the Rafters was on 7HD All Saints, which immediately follows it, wasn't By the time you realise that the show you were expecting to be on isn't You've already missed the beginning of the show on the SD channel Some consistency would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckent Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 OK, consistency? Fasttrack vs HD. Pick one. CK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunnas Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) OK, consistency?Fasttrack vs HD. Pick one. CK. Why pick one? They're certainly not mutually exclusive. Live sport can be broadcast in HD around the world. That pretty much ends any argument about Fasttrack or HD right there. Edited September 30, 2009 by dunnas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDL Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Yes a choice of fast track vs HD doesn't need to be made. HD can arrive in Australia and anywhere else for that matter in plenty of time so I don't see the point in that statement. I also don't see the point in 7 paying rights to something and then showing an SD upscaled version? Surely they don't get it cheaper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debruis Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Yes a choice of fast track vs HD doesn't need to be made. HD can arrive in Australia and anywhere else for that matter in plenty of time so I don't see the point in that statement. I also don't see the point in 7 paying rights to something and then showing an SD upscaled version? Surely they don't get it cheaper? I think you have might have hit the nail on the head with the SD version being cheaper for them to purchase and then upscale. I think most people who are getting upset with FTA HD have bought TVs with 1920X1080 native resolution and the TV is not scaling the 1440X1080 as well as they expect it too. Foxtel picture quality is good but crap programing and repeats is still crap programing and repeats even if broadcast in HD. Regards Debruis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubaisport Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Yes a choice of fast track vs HD doesn't need to be made. HD can arrive in Australia and anywhere else for that matter in plenty of time so I don't see the point in that statement. I also don't see the point in 7 paying rights to something and then showing an SD upscaled version? Surely they don't get it cheaper? I've had a question stuck in my head for a while. How is the content delivered to the networks in Australia from the US? Is it via satellites like live sport and the network records it or do they download it via the internet from the producers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang3 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I ended up acquiring this in MKV format in HD and it had fantastic PQ ! made some of the special effects look a bit average tho haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyllip Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I've had a question stuck in my head for a while. How is the content delivered to the networks in Australia from the US? Is it via satellites like live sport and the network records it or do they download it via the internet from the producers. I wonder this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig M Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 I wonder this too. It's still tape in most cases. HD-CAM or HD-CAM SR for HD delivery, Digital Betacam for SD delivery, but there are increasing moves to have file-based delivery of programmes, both HD & SD. The 'Fast Tracked' programmes are played in LA on a HD (or SD) tape machine, encoded to MPEG 2 at around 30 M/Bits/sec (or whatever codec the station prefers), then fed via optical fiber into Australia, decoded and recorded back to HD tape (or maybe into a server). It's real-time. Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emibel Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 It's still tape in most cases. HD-CAM or HD-CAM SR for HD delivery, Digital Betacam for SD delivery, but there are increasing moves to have file-based delivery of programmes, both HD & SD.The 'Fast Tracked' programmes are played in LA on a HD (or SD) tape machine, encoded to MPEG 2 at around 30 M/Bits/sec (or whatever codec the station prefers), then fed via optical fiber into Australia, decoded and recorded back to HD tape (or maybe into a server). It's real-time. Craig. So they use optical fibre links from the US. Since they're usually several days behind the US, wouldn't it be cheaper to fly the tapes out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig M Posted October 2, 2009 Author Share Posted October 2, 2009 So they use optical fibre links from the US. Since they're usually several days behind the US, wouldn't it be cheaper to fly the tapes out? Too risky. What if the tape gets lost, or delayed in Customs? The tape still gets sent over to Australia, but only after the HD fibre playout from LA. Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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