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So Gspot, you've got until Monday to decide. The GB finishes today, but the order won't be placed until the retailer has obtained all the deposits from those that have said yes. There's still time to jump on board my friend!!! :ph34r:

Monday is a public holiday in W.A.

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Agree Neill. I would rather be told via PM, that way, if there are better local prices available, it give me (or whoever the organiser is) the opportunity to put more pressure on the retailer to come to the party, which would help everyone out in the end.

By the way, we have 11 confirmed, so the PB is going ahead.

Hopefully the 13 or so people I haven't heard back from will let me know their intentions. We have the potential to crack the 20 mark, but if we don't it's no big deal.

I would like to hear back from those that haven't answered either way, just as a common courtesy.

Cheers,

Chris

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Nah, I probably won't Gspot. I run group buys on items I want to add to my collection. :rolleyes: Selfish eh? :P Once this GB is done, I'll have my AVR, so won't need to do buy any other processor.

Selfish? Nah not at all. But you know that upgraditis knows no bounds. You'll be replacing the AVR with a pre-pro at the first opportunity. :P At least that's what Im telling myself.' :D

So Gspot, you've got until Monday to decide. The GB finishes today, but the order won't be placed until the retailer has obtained all the deposits from those that have said yes. There's still time to jump on board my friend!!! :ph34r:

Cheers,

Chris

Stop it stop it! Too many bills. Not much will power left. :unsure:

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Well, for those that haven't jumped on board yet, there's not long left!!

Some that have been in contact will give me an answer by Monday.

C'mon Gspot! You know you want it! Think about how much you're SAVING, rather than how much it COSTS. You only live once, and you can't take your money with you when you die! So you may as well spend it now, and pay for it later!!!

And besides, what's a Pre going to give you that an AVR won't? They're not pricing them cheap enough to make them a "throw away" item when new technology comes along.

And when new technology DOES come along, and you want to sell your amp, you're limiting your market SOOOOO much if it's a Pre! Anyone that has a pre/pro combo will be someone who has their finger on the pulse, and won't want "old" technology, and that's the only market you can sell too, whereas if you buy an AVR, the secondhand market, WHEN you sell, is much broader.

Need any more convincing? :lol:

Cheers,

Chris

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Nah, I probably won't Gspot. I run group buys on items I want to add to my collection. :rolleyes: Selfish eh? :P Once this GB is done, I'll have my AVR, so won't need to do buy any other processor.

The next GB on the list will be projectors, but not until the next generation hits the market. I'm not upgrading until I can get a 1080p that with do vertical stretch over HDMI and has high lumen output.

Agree, but seeing as our prices ARE better than that, it doesn't really hurt.. B)

Thanks Psycho. I push the retailers very hard, but then again, they come to the party agree to run the PB's, so in turn I thank them! :)

So Gspot, you've got until Monday to decide. The GB finishes today, but the order won't be placed until the retailer has obtained all the deposits from those that have said yes. There's still time to jump on board my friend!!! :ph34r:

Another reason I won't be doing a PB on a Pre/pro is because I haven't seen one that offers exceptional value for money. I'd be wanting one for around the $1500 mark to justify it. Besides, with a few "left over" amp stages in an AVR, you can power more speakers and zones!! B)

Cheers,

Chris

Chris

Did not mean to offend in any way. I was trying to actually point out how good your prices are. IE by showing what sort of 'best price' is available out there. When I said great value, I was referring to your GB.

If that hurt your sales in anyway or is considered poor form, then I apologise.

cheers

James

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+1 to the group buy

Email sent Prior

My wife is going to kill me...

if she ever finds out ;)

If you do manage to keep it from her could you please let me know how....for future reference of course. :P

By the way, we have 11 confirmed, so the PB is going ahead.

Cheers,

Chris

You bewty. :D

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Just my 0.02c worth re jimmmy's post.

I followed the link, saw the price and realised that I could get a decent discount off RRP any time I wanted it. But just to be sure I sent Chris an email. Result:

+1 8002 :D (Check your email Chris!)

So, not much damage done to the GB - bank balance is another thing! :o

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No worries Gone_bush.

I'll check my mail in the morning.

I understand where you were coming from Jimmmy, but my heart was in my throat until I saw the prices. For future reference, probably better if you didn't do that though...

Cheers,

Chris

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No worries Gone_bush.

I'll check my mail in the morning.

I understand where you were coming from Jimmmy, but my heart was in my throat until I saw the prices. For future reference, probably better if you didn't do that though...

Cheers,

Chris

NW mate.

By the way interested in the 7002 in black if still possible. :)

cheers

James

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Chris sent you an email earlier this morning for the 7002, so hopefully you've got it! Was enquiring you bout the krix stuff too :)

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Chris sent you an email earlier this morning for the 7002, so hopefully you've got it! Was enquiring you bout the krix stuff too :)

kay?

Krix stuff???? I own KRIX stuff, is that what you mean???

I replied and have emailed him twice. No joy.

cheers

James

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kay?

Krix stuff???? I own KRIX stuff, is that what you mean???

I replied and have emailed him twice. No joy.

cheers

James

Oh the wonders of leaving out a comma. That post was directed at Chris :)

Posted (edited)

Ok, I've checked my mail, and I don't think I have your emails guys. They're not in my junk folder either.

Make sure when you email me you include your forum username, as well as your real name, otherwise I can't correlate them

Cheers,

Chris

edit: I have Yee harn's mail, but not yours Jimmmy. I really need usernames when you email me, otherwise I spend too much time figuring out who's who.

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Hey guys I need some insite and more information about the differences between the 7002 and 8002.

I have commited to the following speaker setup:

Krix Neuphonix fronts

Krix Epicentrix centre

Krix Equinox rears

Krix Seismix 5

I have also put a deposit down for the 7002 but now I am starting to think about wether I should be going the 8002, is it worth it? will I regret getting the 7002 with these speakers? what will I be missing? will the sound of the speakers suffer?

There is a pretty decent price diff between the two models...

I could only get a demo of the 7002, the 8002 wasnt in.

Adam.

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Hey guys I need some insite and more information about the differences between the 7002 and 8002.

I have commited to the following speaker setup:

Krix Neuphonix fronts

Krix Epicentrix centre

Krix Equinox rears

Krix Seismix 5

I have also put a deposit down for the 7002 but now I am starting to think about wether I should be going the 8002, is it worth it? will I regret getting the 7002 with these speakers? what will I be missing? will the sound of the speakers suffer?

There is a pretty decent price diff between the two models...

I could only get a demo of the 7002, the 8002 wasnt in.

Adam.

Mate I reckon if you were going to get a power amp down the track then the 7002 is plenty. But if you were hoping to get by with just and AVR I would go the 8002 for its better power supply, specs and little bit extra grunt it has to offer.

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Mate I reckon if you were going to get a power amp down the track then the 7002 is plenty. But if you were hoping to get by with just and AVR I would go the 8002 for its better power supply, specs and little bit extra grunt it has to offer.

^^ agreed. basically the 8002 adds toroidal power, copper chassis, a third zone and IR input. i suspect for most people that means the key difference is the better amp side, which is obviously of no major significance if you are planning to use a separate power amp.

that said, i can confirm the 7002 is no slouch when it comes to power and if you use its consumption as a guide, its ahead of the competition (denon, yamaha, pioneer etc etc)

Posted

as the other have said the 8002 is overkill if you are going to add a power amp later on.

But if you are not, I'd seriously consider the 8002.

The speakers you have chosen are top end products from Krix and you will get the benefit of the 8002 when paired with them.

Everyone says the extra benefit is only the toroidal transformer, but the thing that needs to be pointed out is that it is not merely some small benefit.

Toroidal transformers are expensive, but they are exactly what the best amps will use as they produce efficient clean power with minimal side effects.

Probably only a really critical ear will hear a difference anyway, but for someone who is willing to fork out for the neuphonix and epicentrix, it would be a shame to skimp on what is probably the most important part of the amplifier.

Sorry to take this too far off topic, but it also should be considered that the speakers will probably outlast the amplifier in your setup, as some new HD audio format will render the 7002 and 8002 obselete next year. ;)

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should be considered that the speakers will probably outlast the amplifier in your setup, as some new HD audio format will render the 7002 and 8002 obselete next year. ;)

That is one of the main things I was taking into consideration. In a couple of years I will most likely be feeling like upgrading. Do I spend the extra money now or keep it in the bank as I will most likely have more financial freedom down the track and I can always look at adding a power amp. The 7002 didnt seem to have any trouble driving the speakers during my demos. The extra money will be handy as I want to have a look at a projector next year - Hopefully chris has good timing on a PB there too :lol:

I think I will stick to the 7002, as this is my first setup I think it is already a big, big jump compared to my plasma speakers :P . Plus my budget did start in the $5-6k range and now I am looking down the barrel of $8k, really shouldnt be pushing it towards $9k :o

Thanks for the feedback,

Adam.

Posted

Adam,

if you think you may upgrade your amp in a year or 2, I'd stick with the 7002. At that stage, there may be a reasonably priced Pre available, and you can match it with a kick arse Power amp like the Elektra.

I'm just using Trebor's old Yammy amp at the moment, and it can drive the Neuphonix with no problem, so a 7002 will do it standing on it's head.

My 2c.

Cheers,

Chris

Posted (edited)
Adam,

if you think you may upgrade your amp in a year or 2, I'd stick with the 7002. At that stage, there may be a reasonably priced Pre available, and you can match it with a kick arse Power amp like the Elektra.

I started out thinking I didnt want to go down the power amp route; but know have thoughts that this may be a possibility at some stage in the future. :blush:

Even so, I thought that when comparing the price of the group buy 8002 to the rrp of the 7002 that I would go for the 8002 and see if it copes with what it will be driving to my satisfaction.

As for the 8002/7002 becoming outdated, it doesnt matter what we buy; that is going to happen.New audio codecs; (remember that DD5.1 and DTs started out as 5.1 and added extra channels such as Dolby Digital ex) ; and probably new versions of hdmi, it is something that is unavoidable.In this regard the fact that the Marantz will accept the audio stream via hdmi is more important imo and wether it will decode it is another matter.

edit; there is a link of the 8002 earlier in this thread so to show I'm not biased check out the 7002 :P

(the review is dated april 2008 :blink: )

7002 review

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Posted (edited)

Hi Chris,

Could you please send me a PM with the powerbuy prices for the 7002 and the 8002.

I was hoping the AV8003 pre/pro was going to be around the $3K mark here but it appears it will be $3K in the US or thereabouts, most probably close to $5K here, ouch!

I'm using an Elektra for front stage duties and a 2 channel Benchmark Audio amp to drive the rears. From a very quick read of the posts in the thread it seems the 7002 is the way to go for anyone with external amplification, yes?

Thanks for all the work you've put into the powerbuy thus far. I'm sure all the lads currently commited to a purchase appreciate it, I helped out with a DLA-HD1 powerbuy a while back and it was a lot of work.

Lastly if I want to jump on board what is the cut off time for the powerbuy?

Cheers,

Justin.

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