hw Posted September 7, 2003 Posted September 7, 2003 hey bro.. no doubt sometimes we may have to spend to "learn", (pay "school fees"), try to get a component that you think that you can last for awhile (or at least until u think u're ready to hit the Big Time). when i first started, i always felt the urge to "upgrade". juz to share with u.. my "hifi" journey started when i itchy backside went to buy a tube int amp (i paid $800 for a Jolida 502a). Hooked that up to my pioneer dvd karaoke player (forgot the model...DV101 or something) and to the crappy speakers from the old prologic all-in-one system. That sound really blew me away... but soon backside was more itchy and i spend more...and more... hehehee...
Ken.Ishiwata Posted September 8, 2003 Posted September 8, 2003 poor hw...butt must have lotsa blisters now after all that scratching! ;D For me im finally settling down on my system. phew.... hey bro.. no doubt sometimes we may have to spend to "learn", (pay "school fees"), try to get a component that you think that you can last for awhile (or at least until u think u're ready to hit the Big Time). when i first started, i always felt the urge to "upgrade". juz to share with u.. my "hifi" journey started when i itchy backside went to buy a tube int amp (i paid $800 for a Jolida 502a). Hooked that up to my pioneer dvd karaoke player (forgot the model...DV101 or something) and to the crappy speakers from the old prologic all-in-one system. That sound really blew me away... but soon backside was more itchy and i spend more...and more... hehehee...
hw Posted September 8, 2003 Posted September 8, 2003 yeah boy... luckily the itching stopped 2 yrs ago.. but i'd honestly say the itch has never really gone away ;D
TOOL1624705741 Posted September 8, 2003 Posted September 8, 2003 hi tool...... my apologies..... i dun rilly understand ur statement...... but i'll try to interpret and explain..... and pls guide me along, as i'm quite new to audio equipment :) i've tested the equipment in a crappy environment (unlike those aldephi sound-proofed, treated, aircon "acoustical" rooms) with ppl walking in and out distracting my listening, so i reckon the system should probabli sound much better in my room environment..... is my assumption inappropriate? ??? sure i can be a little more explicit :) putting it simply, what happens is that regardless of the arrangement of the other equipment, cluttering etc. etc. your room is different from his room. THere maybe something 'right' about his arrangement (including your listenin position) that you heard. That doesn't mean that you can just replicate the exact same stunning sound you heard then. So be prepared if the result's aren't what you are looking out for. It is very often the caser. Ask for a home trial if that's ever possible.
mpireq Posted September 8, 2003 Author Posted September 8, 2003 tool: tz for ur explaination....... i understand wat u mean :) at the moment, i could onli hope my judgement is correct, coz home trial is IMPOSSIBLE..... i dun even mind if i've to pay 10-20% of price for returning the equipment, but guess it's juz not the practice here in SG..... haiz.... well.... there's another reason y i thought the system could sound better at home: my spiks need to be listened 2m away from them and they nearli sound like computer speakers if i'm less than 1m away!! ;D and this is the exact scenario at the shop: 1m away from spik..... yet i could get richness outta it and it's decent enuff for my listening.... so i believed they'd sound much much much better 2m away... on the other hand, i agree very much wif ur advice, as i strongli believe room acoustics and spik/equipment placement makes (or breaks) 30-60% of the end music reproduction! i'm fulli prepared to hear a totalli different presentation back home.... juz hoping it'd go in a positive direction.... due to the impossibility of home-trail, rilly hope i dun make a wrong assumption and decision ;D sure i can be a little more explicit :) putting it simply, what happens is that regardless of the arrangement of the other equipment, cluttering etc. etc. your room is different from his room. THere maybe something 'right' about his arrangement (including your listenin position) that you heard. That doesn't mean that you can just replicate the exact same stunning sound you heard then. So be prepared if the result's aren't what you are looking out for. It is very often the caser. Ask for a home trial if that's ever possible.
mpireq Posted September 8, 2003 Author Posted September 8, 2003 hi hw: yeah... i noe wat u mean..... audio is a black hole!!! juz get drawn into much further and deeper!! never-ending story!! this happened to me for my car audio..... i juz sold away all my car stuff to recuperate for my home setup ;D in fact, i got all my car audio hooked up (including a 15" sub) at home using a AC-DC convertor after i sold my ride...... i got so sick or the digital nature (i din get tube amps, coz DAMN ex!!) of car stereo at home tat i've decided to look "the sound i've pursued for YEARS" since i was a kid!! no joke!!! i started since 11 years old, when i got a denon midi as a bday present from my dad (lucky me) ;D due to shallow wallet, could onli tweak the system to the max, squeeze every drop outta it, including changing of drivers and x-overs....... looking hi and low for the kinda sound i like, but shucks!! tat kinda characteristics, my budget could never make it!! haiz!! stretch, stretch and stretch further till pants pecah!! ;D i'll probabli be like u..... buy.... listen.... test..... listen somemore.... can be better...... change (the cycle repeats itself)!! ;D KI: blisters are definiteli on the way to my butts too ;D i havnt settled for my system and i'm oredi planning for my nex upgrade based on the equipment i'm planning to get!!! kekeke 8) hey bro.. no doubt sometimes we may have to spend to "learn", (pay "school fees"), try to get a component that you think that you can last for awhile (or at least until u think u're ready to hit the Big Time). when i first started, i always felt the urge to "upgrade". juz to share with u.. my "hifi" journey started when i itchy backside went to buy a tube int amp (i paid $800 for a Jolida 502a). Hooked that up to my pioneer dvd karaoke player (forgot the model...DV101 or something) and to the crappy speakers from the old prologic all-in-one system. That sound really blew me away... but soon backside was more itchy and i spend more...and more... hehehee...
hw Posted September 8, 2003 Posted September 8, 2003 i've found a good way to relieve the itch without spending much, is to follow the "voodoo" way of tweaking the system. this could mean "stealing" the porcelain tea cups to replace the feet of the components (and try to imagine the sound has been "upgraded" heheheh) or go spend $50 to DIY a pair of cables. or for something that does not cost money - play around with the placement. i found out that by simply re-positioning my pre-amp, i could hear the difference! (or maybe i'm just imagining). ;D
mpireq Posted September 9, 2003 Author Posted September 9, 2003 hw: ha ha h h aaaaa...... tat's preciseli wat i did on my denon midi for the past 15 yrs, until it broke down and i replaced it wif a cambridge A500 int amp and denon DCD-610 CDP..... toe-in and toe-out..... carpet...... nearer to wall... further from wall..... different materials to be place on top of amp, CDP, spik..... blah ;D 3 pais of spiks in the hall to play wif.... spik A onli...... spik B onli...... Spik C onli...... A + B, B + C, A + C...... blah.... ;D and change drivers of spiks 8) now for my room set-up, i'm using car 6" drivers wif KEF box...... oso looking at changing spik box volume to optimise performance...... ;) too much things to play wif, but too shallow a pocket :-\ now thinking VERY hard whether to commit tat vintage luxman amp...... mind-boggling sound, but mind-bothering repairs in the near future as well...... big dilemma!!!! ??? i've found a good way to relieve the itch without spending much, is to follow the "voodoo" way of tweaking the system. this could mean "stealing" the porcelain tea cups to replace the feet of the components (and try to imagine the sound has been "upgraded" heheheh) or go spend $50 to DIY a pair of cables. or for something that does not cost money - play around with the placement. i found out that by simply re-positioning my pre-amp, i could hear the difference! (or maybe i'm just imagining). ;D
hw Posted September 9, 2003 Posted September 9, 2003 life is all about making choices, bro... good luck! hehehe... ;D
MC_Hammer Posted September 9, 2003 Posted September 9, 2003 life is all about making choices, bro... good luck! hehehe... ;D Wrong , Life is all about making choices n taking action ! Talk so much ...the CD38 Ah Tjoeb '99 Sold liao !
mpireq Posted September 9, 2003 Author Posted September 9, 2003 MC_Hammer: i believe ur statement is directed at me? kindli explain ur statement or edit ur message! r u in any way related to Simply Music? the sale of the CD38 Ah! Tjoeb '99 affected u a big deal to enter this topic?? Wrong , Life is all about making choices n taking action ! Talk so much ...the CD38 Ah Tjoeb '99 Sold liao !
mpireq Posted September 9, 2003 Author Posted September 9, 2003 hw: tz alot, bro! ;) ur input is most valuable! :) life is all about making choices, bro... good luck! hehehe... ;D
MC_Hammer Posted September 9, 2003 Posted September 9, 2003 MC_Hammer: i believe ur statement is directed at me? kindli explain ur statement or edit ur message! r u in any way related to Simply Music? the sale of the CD38 Ah! Tjoeb '99 affected u a big deal to enter this topic?? 1)Hw is my personal friend , he knows me well enough to understand wat I am saying , No , I 'm not directing at u !'' U are suffering from very serious inferior complex ! 2) I don't see the need to explain to you wat I have said since I am replying to hw n I am not directing at you ,neither is there a need to edit my message unless u tell me that u own this Forum which we all know u are not , so stop threatening as if u are the boss ! 3)No , I am not related to Simply Music, those who know me long enough know that ! I have more lucrative business to attend to than to sell hifi ! 4)I am not at all influenced by the sale of the Ah Tjoeb. , I am just informing everybody that the Ah Tjoeb has been sold !..those who have been to my house for powwow knew that I have owned the Ah Tjoeb for more than 3 years liao ! I have a total of 8 CD players at home !
hw Posted September 9, 2003 Posted September 9, 2003 ok bros...relax... MC bro is those who decides fast & acts fast, but never hasty. Juz a little conflict of personality... nothing personal...no harm... cool.... ;D
Guest jonlee Posted September 10, 2003 Posted September 10, 2003 his job requires him to be fast....:) mpireq, no worry. after u have been in the forum long enough, u will know better the "normal tone" of the forumers. on paper, their posts might look offensive, but that is not their intention. ok bros...relax... MC bro is those who decides fast & acts fast, but never hasty. Juz a little conflict of personality... nothing personal...no harm... cool.... ;D
popeye1624705767 Posted September 10, 2003 Posted September 10, 2003 Hi, Wah...8 CD players!!! :o Must be the God of Hifi oredi! MC_Hammer, can name the CD players? TIA. I have a total of 8 CD players at home !
Chowbotak Posted September 10, 2003 Posted September 10, 2003 Wah! 8 cd plyrs! Not to mention many speakers also! What about misstresses, how many? ;D :P
MC_Hammer Posted September 10, 2003 Posted September 10, 2003 Wah! 8 cd plyrs! Not to mention many speakers also! What about misstresses, how many? ;D :P Mistresses too high maintenance lah ...Geyland cheaper ! :P
Mackie1624705753 Posted September 11, 2003 Posted September 11, 2003 Btw, I think the cdp in concern was recently sold around 150 pounds on UK Ebay. Real bargain I must say.
mpireq Posted September 11, 2003 Author Posted September 11, 2003 MC_Hammer: bro, i'm rilly pleased u've explained ur point..... :) and rilly wished tat i've been in this forum long to noe u better and personalli to avoid this tedious exchange of words....... :) well.... lemm clear up the air a lil...... when i saw ur post, frankli, the 1st thing tat came to my mind was: this person is probabli related to the shop (as i do not noe who u r)...... and since he's oredi mananged to sell the product, y bother to even post tat reply to me? as the end-customer, i'll decide to make or break the deal.... if the item is sold b4 i make my decision, then too bad for me...... no obligations watsoever..... a fair deal....... since u've confirmed tat u'r not from the shop, and giving advice as a fellow-forumer's, i'm onli glad to accept ur guidance, as i do tend to be a little reserved when making decisions...... on the other hand, i cannot afford to make too wrong a choice, as i do not have enuff mullas to keep experimenting wif equipment ;D wrong choice means i'll have to live wif it wat i have for a while..... hope i do clear up our misunderstanding :) and WOW!!! 8 CDPs and many spiks at ur place?!!!! a real eye opener! 8) 1)Hw is my personal friend , he knows me well enough to understand wat I am saying , No , I 'm not directing at u !'' U are suffering from very serious inferior complex ! 2) I don't see the need to explain to you wat I have said since I am replying to hw n I am not directing at you ,neither is there a need to edit my message unless u tell me that u own this Forum which we all know u are not , so stop threatening as if u are the boss ! 3)No , I am not related to Simply Music, those who know me long enough know that ! I have more lucrative business to attend to than to sell hifi ! 4)I am not at all influenced by the sale of the Ah Tjoeb. , I am just informing everybody that the Ah Tjoeb has been sold !..those who have been to my house for powwow knew that I have owned the Ah Tjoeb for more than 3 years liao ! I have a total of 8 CD players at home !
mpireq Posted September 11, 2003 Author Posted September 11, 2003 to all fellow readers of this thread: many tz for ur patience on this little flame created by myself ;D and pls continue to give ur most appreciated feedback :) cheers, ed
mpireq Posted September 11, 2003 Author Posted September 11, 2003 MC_Hammer: yeah yeah!! geyland good good!! joo chiat oso acceptable..... balai tok kong!!!! ;D Mistresses too high maintenance lah ...Geyland cheaper ! :P
mpireq Posted September 11, 2003 Author Posted September 11, 2003 mackie..... 150 pounds at UK Ebay!!!! tat's a STEAL!!! :) Btw, I think the cdp in concern was recently sold around 150 pounds on UK Ebay. Real bargain I must say.
MC_Hammer Posted September 11, 2003 Posted September 11, 2003 to all fellow readers of this thread: many tz for ur patience on this little flame created by myself ;D and pls continue to give ur most appreciated feedback :) My friend , there's no problem...just some mis-interpretation of words as far as I can see...if u want to audition the Ah Tjoeb.., Marantz CD63 KI, CD 17, CD 16D etc etc , feel free to give me a call at 96649592 ! Cheers !
mpireq Posted September 11, 2003 Author Posted September 11, 2003 WOW!!!!!! all the popular CDPs tat i'd like to try out!!! :D it'd be a pleasure and REALLI eye(ear)-opening experience to audition all of them at one go!! ur place got mop?? else i'll bring one along to clear up the saliva i've dripped during the audition ;D realli glad our misunderstanding is cleared :) My friend , there's no problem...just some mis-interpretation of words as far as I can see...if u want to audition the Ah Tjoeb.., Marantz CD63 KI, CD 17, CD 16D etc etc , feel free to give me a call at 96649592 ! Cheers !
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