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whats the go lately am noticing a ton of sennheiser hd800s for sale. its almost like the market is flooded with them or something ?

 

are people dumping them. buying them in grey and trying to make a buck here. or are they the kind of thing you just buy and sell on after trying or something.

 

weren't totally to my taste to be honest. but not a bad headphone. definitely flagship material. just saw others in the senn range that better suited.

 

one other thing worries me is fakes with this kind of thing. I know there were fake senn's floating around at one stage. why locally you could only buy the hd800 from the importer when first released. 

 

just seems so many being bought and sold here ! for a flagship headphone ! thats quite expensive just wouldn't expect it myself.

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whats the go lately am noticing a ton of sennheiser hd800s for sale. its almost like the market is flooded with them or something ?

 

are people dumping them. buying them in grey and trying to make a buck here. or are they the kind of thing you just buy and sell on after trying or something.

 

weren't totally to my taste to be honest. but not a bad headphone. definitely flagship material. just saw others in the senn range that better suited.

 

one other thing worries me is fakes with this kind of thing. I know there were fake senn's floating around at one stage. why locally you could only buy the hd800 from the importer when first released. 

 

just seems so many being bought and sold here ! for a flagship headphone ! thats quite expensive just wouldn't expect it myself.

 

Hey, Al, you wouldn't be white-anting for sale threads, would you?

That could get you suspended  :P  :nana

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whats the go lately am noticing a ton of sennheiser hd800s for sale. its almost like the market is flooded with them or something ?

 

are people dumping them. buying them in grey and trying to make a buck here. or are they the kind of thing you just buy and sell on after trying or something.

 

weren't totally to my taste to be honest. but not a bad headphone. definitely flagship material. just saw others in the senn range that better suited.

 

one other thing worries me is fakes with this kind of thing. I know there were fake senn's floating around at one stage. why locally you could only buy the hd800 from the importer when first released. 

 

just seems so many being bought and sold here ! for a flagship headphone ! thats quite expensive just wouldn't expect it myself.

 

 

Thanks for the heads up!  Hadn't thought of that.  I know someone who bought a 2nd hand pair recently...I wonder if he got burnt?

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I've thought about this too. Sometimes I wonder if an item is either a grey import or a knock off.

Perhaps SNA needs to update the for sale template to include "place of purchase" and "original receipt available".

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whats the go lately am noticing a ton of sennheiser hd800s for sale. its almost like the market is flooded with them or something ?

 

are people dumping them. buying them in grey and trying to make a buck here. or are they the kind of thing you just buy and sell on after trying or something.

 

weren't totally to my taste to be honest. but not a bad headphone. definitely flagship material. just saw others in the senn range that better suited.

 

one other thing worries me is fakes with this kind of thing. I know there were fake senn's floating around at one stage. why locally you could only buy the hd800 from the importer when first released. 

 

just seems so many being bought and sold here ! for a flagship headphone ! thats quite expensive just wouldn't expect it myself.

From my fairly extensive reading/forum surfing and trying different amps myself my only observation is that people generally don't get the synergy correct between Source/Amp/HD800 and then spend additional money putting in foam 'mods' and changing out the cable. Before I had it right I also considered selling them but since I have paired them with the Metrum Aurix/HEX and also Octave MKII I can wholeheartedly recommend them as a non fatiguing/transparent and beautiful sounding headphone. Before that they were my go to headphone for just classical music but now they sound excellent with any Genre. To that effect I have now sold off my HD600, HD650, AKG701, DT880 and I only use the HD800 and HE500 which between them cover all of the bases. They are an unforgiving headphone and I don't think they suit most SS headphone/ESS Sabre type setups - get them right and they sing.....

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From my extensive reading/forum surfing and trying different amps myself my only observation is that people generally don't get the synergy correct between Source/Amp/HD800 and then spend additional money putting in foam 'mods' and changing out the cable. Before I had it right I also considered selling them but since I have paired them with the Metrum Aurix/HEX and also Octave MKII I can wholeheartedly recommend them as a non fatiguing/transparent and beautiful sounding headphone. Before that they were my go to headphone for just classical music but now they sound excellent with any Genre. To that effect I have now sold off my HD600, HD650, AKG701, DT880 and I 

Im using mine with a Hugo and can't fault them.

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From my fairly extensive reading/forum surfing and trying different amps myself my only observation is that people generally don't get the synergy correct between Source/Amp/HD800 and then spend additional money putting in foam 'mods' and changing out the cable. Before I had it right I also considered selling them but since I have paired them with the Metrum Aurix/HEX and also Octave MKII I can wholeheartedly recommend them as a non fatiguing/transparent and beautiful sounding headphone. Before that they were my go to headphone for just classical music but now they sound excellent with any Genre. To that effect I have now sold off my HD600, HD650, AKG701, DT880 and I only use the HD800 and HE500 which between them cover all of the bases. They are an unforgiving headphone and I don't think they suit most SS headphone/ESS Sabre type setups - get them right and they sing.....

My experience was the same, I actually had the best amp recommended with the HD800, so I actually got the headphones later.

 

No issues with treble and bass.

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There are a few guys over on headfi (including me) who just can't seem to get across that they really really really don't need modding and that amp choice has an extreme effect on the HD800 over most other headphones - people seem fixed on the idea that the headphones are somehow flawed/need to be changed and that the only way to get them to work okay is to drop $1000 on a new cable.

 

I think people buy them and expect them to work on their existing set up - they find that they are fatiguing and lack bass so they move them on......

 

Next time anyone is in Addicted to Audio ask them to fire up an Aurix (on high gain) and Octave MKII/HEX (leave on for 1 hour) and then have a listen and report back on their thoughts.....

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There are a few guys over on headfi (including me) who just can't seem to get across that they really really really don't need modding and that amp choice has an extreme effect on the HD800 over most other headphones - people seem fixed on the idea that the headphones are somehow flawed/need to be changed and that the only way to get them to work okay is to drop $1000 on a new cable.

 

I think people buy them and expect them to work on their existing set up - they find that they are fatiguing and lack bass so they move them on......

 

Next time anyone is in Addicted to Audio ask them to fire up an Aurix (on high gain) and Octave MKII/HEX (leave on for 1 hour) and then have a listen and report back on their thoughts.....

They excel with a Phonitor SPL 2 and also Sennheiser's dedicated amps. They are very transparent and judgemental on the upstream.

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No such thing as fake HD800's.

 

No such thing as a MK2 coming out (this is not Sennheiser's MO)

 

A new flagship is coming in the future. A successor the Orpheus released back in the 90's. Very expensive.

 

No word of an official dynamic successor to the HD800 at this stage from Axel Grell but one is in the works soon.

 

HD800's are always coming and going so not sure where "market is full of them" being sold is coming from.

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Most likely people buying the HD 800, not liking the sound and selling them. HD 800 are not for everyone and do not shine in every system. Any flaw in associated equipment is brutally revealed and some combinations can be literally painful. If your system is refined enough they can sound amazing, if you like what they have to offer.

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Most likely people buying the HD 800, not liking the sound and selling them. HD 800 are not for everyone and do not shine in every system. Any flaw in associated equipment is brutally revealed and some combinations can be literally painful. If your system is refined enough they can sound amazing, if you like what they have to offer.

Agree completely, each individual device in the chain is crucial right from source, dac, amp, etc

You need to spend at least 2 times if not 3 times the cost of the hd800 on each individual device.

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Agree completely, each individual device in the chain is crucial right from source, dac, amp, etc

You need to spend at least 2 times if not 3 times the cost of the hd800 on each individual device.

Agree as well on first statement, not completely on second statement though.

My second setup currently consist of regular pc running JPlay, geek out 720 and Schiit Vali. It sound really nice indeed :-)

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One interesting thing about the HD800s is that its probably cheaper to buy them here than anywhere else in the world, especially when the relatively weak AUD is factored in.

 

I'm really curious about them, but this is one headphone I really would like to try out before I pull the trigger on them.

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Agree completely, each individual device in the chain is crucial right from source, dac, amp, etc

You need to spend at least 2 times if not 3 times the cost of the hd800 on each individual device.

Not in my experience (although I admit I can't absolutely know that I haven't heard them at their absolute best.....I suppose the sky's the limit?)  - the Metrum Octave MKII costs are similar to the HD800 as is the Metrum Aurix - also the WA6SE (before the price rises) also cost a similar amount and drives them very well.

 

There are some experienced Headphonus Supremus on Headfi who rave about the combination of the Octave MKII and the Aurix - only shame is that Metrum don't play the 'review' freebies and 'world tour' game like some do and therefore don't garner the same rave reviews and attention/never ending threads.....

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There are some experienced Headphonus Supremus on Headfi who rave about the combination of the Octave MKII and the Aurix - only shame is that Metrum don't play the 'review' freebies and 'world tour' game like some do and therefore don't garner the same rave reviews and attention/never ending threads.....

 

That's a good thing because there is a bunch of shilling at head-fi. That's the only way to keep revenue going through sponsors and ads so Jude can afford to run the site. If you go against there FOTM products expect a warning or a ban.

 

That said the HD800 is ruthlessly revealing, amplification is more important then source with the HD800's, they are finicky little bastards. 

 

Or you can do the anax rabid dogs mod to tame the treble.

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Because no one has the machinery and expertise or knowledge to do it. It will cost just as much as buying an HD800 if some small time company decided to make it. Not to mention the custom machinery needed to make it that only a select few plants in Ireland and Germany has.

 

The Chinese ain't all stupid, they only clone things where they can and turn it around for a profit when actual genuine articles are more costly. 

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The Chinese ain't all stupid, they only clone things where they can and turn it around for a profit when actual genuine articles are more costly. 

 

Yet fake beats headphones command genuine prices, although people can't tell a fake from real beats as they're both s@#t...

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Because no one has the machinery and expertise or knowledge to do it. It will cost just as much as buying an HD800 if some small time company decided to make it. Not to mention the custom machinery needed to make it that only a select few plants in Ireland and Germany has.

 

The Chinese ain't all stupid, they only clone things where they can and turn it around for a profit when actual genuine articles are more costly. 

 

I think you will be very surprised what they can do in china. I have had a friend whom works there visit a factory making "swiss watches" they have full QA, management structure and all processes you'd expect in a western factory, huge dollars and infrastructure invested. your average person wouldn't pick the fake from the genuine and yet they are pumped out at about a $1 a pop.

 

as with many headphone makers we have had fake sens before. so quite a possibility.

 

http://www.channelnews.com.au/sound/XTPOAVNP-fake-beats-and-sennheiser-headphones-a-big-problem.aspxas

 

 senn tried to do the 3D holo gram to separate the fakes from the genuine article 

 

http://en-de.sennheiser.com/news-maximum-protection-against-counterfeiting-for-sennheiser-products-audio-specialist-introduces-new-security-label-from-august

 

but then fake 3D holograms turned up on the net as well ! hehe

 

as with anything you buy, just a case of buyer beware I think. be wary can be a possibility, and ask for receipts/proof of purchase etc to be absolutely sure.

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That's a good thing because there is a bunch of shilling at head-fi. That's the only way to keep revenue going through sponsors and ads so Jude can afford to run the site. If you go against there FOTM products expect a warning or a ban.

 

That said the HD800 is ruthlessly revealing, amplification is more important then source with the HD800's, they are finicky little bastards. 

 

Or you can do the anax rabid dogs mod to tame the treble.

 

not sure I tried the hd800 myself with 4 different amps. tube to SS to hybrid to pure class A . definitely I think it works best with the senn dac/amps for pairing. but preferred the older hd580s/600 myself and finding the hd700 more to my taste again. in end sold the lot and sticking with the grado/tube amp combo as most love its sound. still I do think the hd800 is a top line headphone. but just its style of sound maybe that people can perhaps live with. well not everyone. but have no doubt for quite a few will be just the thing. 

 

just seems so many being turned over though, which I still think is very unusual for such a top line item. that said am sure individual owners will have their own reasons to keep or sell :)

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