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I won't take up the space on this forum with a long post.  I've just had my 34 year old ME50 significantly upgraded and modified.

 

You can read about it here:   ME50-Redux on the Quad ESL site.

 

Regards,

Gary Jaobson

 

What do you use as a source? (can't be bothered reading a full review if its not 6moons or stereophile :P )

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Hi Gary

Good to see you post on SNA. I've had your website on favourite list for a while. I put my 2905s on blocks after reading your and PW comments a while back. Do you anticipate adding 2905 info on your site in future?

I use a ME pre-amp and various power amps, the ME850HC, ME1400 or Weston Acoustic Topaz mono-blocks. Each has a different sound and all are good, in fact very good.

You can happily ignore Kajak12 as he is a serial SS hatian / despiser

I'm not sure if the ESL site works properly with iPad as some links don't appear to work correctly or content not all there?

I like the newer look btw

Any thoughts on sub-woofers for use with ESLs?

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G'Day frankn,

 

Passive aggressive behaviour to which you refer (line 5 above) is not uncommon in audiophiles :))   C'est la Vie Kajak old bean :))

 

Content is all there, btw.  Works on my android based tablet -- iPad, EyePad -- what's that :)

 

In the matter of subs.  I have one sitting in the corner of my office and it's been there for (maybe) ten years.  I gave it away after moving to stacked Quads because I don't think sub-woofers (however excellent in construction) are nimble enough to 'keep up' with the ESL (any electrostatic, in fact).  Roger Sanders would disagree and would no doubt have a design that could work with a SW, but I don't think any Quad ESL works well.  Neither did Peter Walker.  His comments are in the interviews on my site, btw.

 

You know I'm not telling you anything by saying that the 2905 is not (technically) an advance on anything that is not already in the ESL63.  Quad's publicity machine is as bad as the rest in this day and age.  A few alterations to the supporting structures and materials (all good things), but nothing really new.  This is a problem with Quad (as a company) and others in the present day.  When Walker developed the '63 he said..."What have we done here?  Not a lot, really. Gathered together some work by [Donovan Earnest Lee] Shorter [at the BBC] and others then added some work of our own that says if you can monitor the current to each element proportionally then you can make a transparent speaker."

 

The 2905 is an excellent speaker as I recollect at last hearing.  Outstanding I would say, in fact.  Just nothing interesting to cover that hasn't already been covered.

 

As to putting you speakers "up", yes, Walker reckoned that was the thing to do and once said to Ivor Humphries to "get them up on beer crates, or what have you".  The 'symmetric' position in a non-acoustically treated room is not necessarily the best position either.  In the original lab demo back in 1980, the Quad 63s in question were stuck on a couple of chairs in PJWs lab with all sorts of paraphernalia obscuring the view.  They sounded brilliant but for a slight glitch at 15kHz (My ears were a lot younger then).  The offending glitch was remarked on by others.  I didn't have the guts to say anything.  It did not appear in the production speaker :)

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Ute? don't own one either and for the record i have 2 ss amps in the house currently.............

I apologise @ "kajak12". I thought you had sold off the much lauded, heavily modded hifi, left home music altogether and only listening to live un-amplified shows. And, for some incorrect I thought you were into modded cArs. All good

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G'Day Kajak,

 

Oh, sorry, thought you meant "sauce".  I am agnostic with a slight bent toward LP and an Aura turntable, but I do use a Rega Saturn CDP as well.

 

I'm afraid you'll have to read the review(s) if you want to know.  Only my opinion, of course, so you might be correct in ignoring it :)

 

I'll let you in on a well kept secret though.  If you listen and observe carefully, think carefully about what you heard, and then listen again, you will discover that the people at Six Moons and Stereophile can do nothing that you cannot do yourself. 

 

<WARNING! SHAMELESS SELF PROMOTION FOLLOWS>

 

If you're a Stereophile reader/fan then have a look at Art Dudley's articles in June and July 2006 where he introduces his story with a quote from my web site.

 

</SHAMELESS SELF PROMOTION>

 

Regards,

Gary Jacobson

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