Newman Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Hi all, I today received a few new records from Amazon. One of them, the vinyl surface looks very scuffed and micro scratched. I have attached a few photos so you can all have a giggle at my expense. But, how does a new record get like this? It was in its sealed wrapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) Quite simple. Lack of quality control. I assume this is the new Black Keys lp? Something seriously amiss as generally Pallas in Germany press them and they are packaged in the US. Looks like these have been packed in hard cardboard either before they cooled correctly, or just pathetic handling. Edited July 21, 2014 by metal beat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Thanks MB. Yes that is the album. It was one of several, all from Amazon. The others are OK (visually). They all came in paper sleeves. I have slipped the others into nice quality poly sleeves, but this one is going back. I'm a bit worried that ordering a replacement will only get me another just like it. But if it's handling, that might be good news...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I read somewhere there have been almost 100,000 copies of the new Black keys lp pressed. The problem might be that Pallas in Germany have not pressed everything - Furnace in the USA have taken over some of the pressing, so that might be the source of the lack of QC. http://www.furnacemfg.com/vinyl/news/?p=1084 What is the matrix number on the dead wax? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addicted to music Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Wrong color for a CD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 31752. I think you are right again MB, it also says P.USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I've had the same issues with new sealed records and there seems to be a bit of pattern in the damage; paper sleeves equal wear and scuff marks on your new highly anticipated vinyl. It seems it can't be avoided either as a retailer is just the middleman and they have no say how a record is packaged internally, i.e. what type of sleeve it is paper or plastic. Mind you some retailers basically shrug and give you a "So what? It's par for the course response." At $40 to $50 minimums for vinyl you'd kind of hope or indeed expect more care and attention but it's a lottery in the end really. * As an aside to the above, I've recently received 3 mint sealed 70's albums that have taken a while to chase up but the thing is that upon opening, they are all in plastic covers and there is not a single mark on them...not a one, and they play perfectly once they've had a quick wipe with the static brush. This contrasts markedly with the new stuff I'm buying which nearly always has pops and background noise and in some cases and they have to be washed to try and clear all that up. It's the one downside to collecting new LP's these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockandorRoll Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Apart from the first track the rest of that album is pretty average. No great loss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal beat Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 31752. I think you are right again MB, it also says P.USA It has this? Matrix / Runout (LP A side): 1-542300-A CB -31752- P. USA Matrix / Runout (LP B side): 1-542300-B-RE-1 CB -31752- P. USA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 I will check and get back to you. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Apart from the first track the rest of that album is pretty average. No great loss Boo, don't tell me that :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockandorRoll Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Boo, don't tell me that :mad: I really wanted to like it, i heard it was supposed to be a change in direction towards a more progressive sound. Couldnt hear any of that, sounded more like a pop album produced for the masses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macguffin Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) My copy(runout as MB stated) is perfect, so could be a shipping issue. And I disagree with the review above. I think it's a great album! Take time to listen to it (when you get a good copy. At least Amazon have a good returns/repacement policy), there is some very emotional stuff going on. I'm hearing Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here influences on this album. On high rotation in our house. Hope you get it sorted. Opening that one up must have been distressing! Worse than the second hand stuff down at the local Lions secondhand shop!! Edited July 22, 2014 by macguffin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Attaboy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hergest Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 That damage isn't from paper sleeves. Sure, they aren't optimum for storing records in but i would say that has been dropped on the floor at the factory and rather than being thrown out some clueless goose has packaged it anyway, it's winged it's way to Australia and poor old Newman has drawn the short straw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 ... i would say that has been dropped on the floor at the factory and rather than being thrown out some clueless goose has packaged it anyway, it's winged it's way to Australia and poor old Newman has drawn the short straw. Poor ol' Newman. Dropped, then rolling along the factory floor, Jackboot Harry stomps it flat then kicks it back to Fumblefingers Fanny who slides it in the sleeve sayin' "It's still like for New, man". 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub Sonic Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Poor ol' Newman. Dropped, then rolling along the factory floor, Jackboot Harry stomps it flat then kicks it back to Fumblefingers Fanny who slides it in the sleeve sayin' "It's still like for New, man". Sounds like the old 10 second rule at the table... :-) Hope u get it sorted out OK Newman. Regards, SS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankn Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 The condition of new vinyl is a lottery nowadays. It is one of the reasons I'm going to purchasing "in-store" many times, at least then you can look at the product before purchasing, check for scuffs, scratches and warpage before purchasing. It annoys me when you have to pay shipping costs back to on-line sellers to get a new copy. The downside is that many albums are not necessarily available in-store and have to be specially ordered. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capone Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I really wanted to like it, i heard it was supposed to be a change in direction towards a more progressive sound. Couldnt hear any of that, sounded more like a pop album produced for the masses Grumpys not going to like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capone Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Ive only had one suspect purchase in regards to vinyl-a Pearl Jam album that has a Hazy film on one side?, tried to clean it off to no avail. but luckily it doesn't affect the playback Agree with frankn, I try and buy my records from a store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclemack Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 The condition of new vinyl is a lottery nowadays. It is one of the reasons I'm going to purchasing "in-store" many times, at least then you can look at the product before purchasing, check for scuffs, scratches and warpage before purchasing. It annoys me when you have to pay shipping costs back to on-line sellers to get a new copy. The downside is that many albums are not necessarily available in-store and have to be specially ordered. Get onto the online Amazon live chat help....They are great and you wo't have to post it back to them most likely. Quick and efficient service. Cheers M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Thanks for the tip, Mack, I will try it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeromelang Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) I have a little scuffle on mine too. But it plays absolutely quiet on my ELP. Very nice sound. The accompanying cd makes my bathroom door shakes....! Edited July 22, 2014 by jeromelang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Get onto the online Amazon live chat help....They are great and you wo't have to post it back to them most likely. Quick and efficient service. I just finished doing this and you are right, they waived the need to return the damaged LP. I showed them the photos (via this thread). They will send a replacement. Thanks for the great tip, I would not have thought of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 It has this? Matrix / Runout (LP A side): 1-542300-A CB -31752- P. USA Matrix / Runout (LP B side): 1-542300-B-RE-1 CB -31752- P. USA That is exactly 100% correct, MB. What does this tell us? (apart from your skill at identifying a pressing!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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