betty boop Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 while dolby atmos has had a bit of airplay, DTS has their own version of object based audio. while dolby atmos is quite demanding needing a 3 chip implementation requiring some makers like onkyo / integra to forgo audyssey. DTS uhd only needs one chip. the benefits appear to be the same as for dolby atmos. http://www.dts.com/corporate/press-releases/2014/01/dts-demonstrates-dts-uhd-decoder-using-single-chip-audio-dsp-at-consumer-electronics-show.aspx DTS-UHD is the first object-based audio format designed for consumer delivery. Object-based audio brings enhanced realism through more accurate spatial rendering, height audio elements, and customizations that adapt to any speaker layout. In addition to rendering object-based audio content, DTS-UHD supports complete compatibility for playback of DTS channel based content, providing the best audio experience from any content featuring DTS audio coding. DTS-UHD Benefits: Environmentally compensated audio rendering allows consumers to hear audio directionality and dimensionality more precise than ever before possible Object control enables consumers to interact with key objects within the audio mix and adjust them to preference Customized rendering designed for arbitrary speaker layouts enables consumers to adapt their AV system to their own home environment rather than pre-determined speaker layouts "We see object-based audio playing a large role in the future of our industry, and are excited to be working with Cirrus Logic to demonstrate their powerful quad-core audio DSP with the capabilities of decoding object-based audio content delivered in the DTS-UHD codec," said Joanna Skrdlant, senior director, IC solutions licensing at DTS. "Many of our licensees rely on Cirrus to provide solutions that allow their products to take advantage of DTS audio codecs. Providing licensees with access to the DTS-UHD decoder will allow them to quickly bring to market products capable of delivering new levels of immersive sound enabled by object-based audio." DTS has pretty much dominated the home entrainment space with most blu-ray discs using DTS-HDMA as surround format. Will be interesting to see if they dominate in a similar way going forward and how their tech compares with the dolby alternative while DTS-UHD had its outing in jan this year...its cedia in "fall" this year that more clarity is expected. with oem support and format support.
DoggieHowser Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 , senior director, IC solutions licensing at DTS. It's one chip but a quad core one at that. So I'm not sure that's any less computationally intensive
betty boop Posted July 2, 2014 Author Posted July 2, 2014 It's one chip but a quad core one at that. So I'm not sure that's any less computationally intensive yeah dont know...bring on cedia we should have a lot more on this stuff then. one thing have noticed is while dolby atmos is targetting comercial settings with some inclination for the home. DTS-UHD seems to be directly aimed for home based systems
astr0b0y Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 I was hoping that the new round of receivers recently announced would have DTS-UHD as well as ATMOS but I think we'll be looking at another year at least before we see this. Maybe these new receiver will offer it via a firmware upgrade but I seriously doubt it.
betty boop Posted July 2, 2014 Author Posted July 2, 2014 I was hoping that the new round of receivers recently announced would have DTS-UHD as well as ATMOS but I think we'll be looking at another year at least before we see this. Maybe these new receiver will offer it via a firmware upgrade but I seriously doubt it. I wouldnt buy anything and trying to future proof. If need something now, I would grab it. until 4k blu-ray as a format comes out, nothing is settled. 4k blu-ray is suggested is 1-2 years away still. plus maybe best to miss the 1st of something unless like living on the bleading edge
astr0b0y Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 Yeah, I'm not going to wait, will be grabbing a new Denon when they land here as it has all the features I could ever want.
DoggieHowser Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 yeah dont know...bring on cedia we should have a lot more on this stuff then. one thing have noticed is while dolby atmos is targetting comercial settings with some inclination for the home. DTS-UHD seems to be directly aimed for home based systems The difference is that Atmos is an established standard that is already encoded in existing movie soundtracks. So it's easy to get source material without re encoding.
betty boop Posted July 2, 2014 Author Posted July 2, 2014 The difference is that Atmos is an established standard that is already encoded in existing movie soundtracks. So it's easy to get source material without re encoding. yeah but the difference is "DTS-UHD is the first object-based audio format designed for consumer delivery." have no doubt there will be a fight between dolby and DTS, just as there was with blu-ray. DTS easily rules the roost when comes to blu-ray for the consumer market. so be interesting how things pan out going forward
betty boop Posted July 2, 2014 Author Posted July 2, 2014 Yeah, I'm not going to wait, will be grabbing a new Denon when they land here as it has all the features I could ever want. yep lot of these things come and go too…e.g. look what happened with neo-X, DSX, dolby PLIIZ and such. even dolby will admit the take up on that wasn't great with people not wanting to fit speakers in height and wide locations. how things like atoms, dts-uhd go will depend again on what take is like with these new formats. the bonus I guess is these will be native encoding rather than matrix post processing. history so far has always shown good take up where there is native encoding e.g. dolby EX, dts-ES, truehd and dts-hdma etc.
DoggieHowser Posted July 2, 2014 Posted July 2, 2014 yeah but the difference is "DTS-UHD is the first object-based audio format designed for consumer delivery." have no doubt there will be a fight between dolby and DTS, just as there was with blu-ray. DTS easily rules the roost when comes to blu-ray for the consumer market. so be interesting how things pan out going forward I am not sure if it is useful to have consumer delivery when you have to force studios to re-encode their existing soundtracks. Atmos is already an established format available today. The workflow from movie sound editing isn't particularly trivial for Atmos - but it provides a way to mix once in Atmos and have the system generate 5.1/7/1 and Atmos mixes automatically using the Dolby system.
betty boop Posted July 2, 2014 Author Posted July 2, 2014 I am not sure if it is useful to have consumer delivery when you have to force studios to re-encode their existing soundtracks. Atmos is already an established format available today. The workflow from movie sound editing isn't particularly trivial for Atmos - but it provides a way to mix once in Atmos and have the system generate 5.1/7/1 and Atmos mixes automatically using the Dolby system. lets see, time will tell, am not one to count chickens.
DoggieHowser Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 (edited) lets see, time will tell, am not one to count chickens.I suspect DTS will also push for more film creators to use UHD in theatrical releases just like they've done for DTS in the past and we'll see more traction. And this will then see movies encoded in UHD for home releases. Otherwise I can't see any benefits as a consumer delivery model. Atmos will benefit from not requiring a BDP upgrade to go along with the AVR upgrade. I hope DTS is going the same route. Edited July 3, 2014 by DoggieHowser
betty boop Posted July 3, 2014 Author Posted July 3, 2014 Will I have to rebuy my whole disc collection again? No way ! Did that VHS to DVD to blu-ray Won't be doing for 4k uhd
franin Posted September 23, 2014 Posted September 23, 2014 No way ! Did that VHS to DVD to blu-ray Won't be doing for 4k uhd Nor am I.
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