Guest Peter the Greek Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 G’day all, Following the outstandingly successful group buy (thanks by the way!), I thought it would be nice to have a thread dedicated to AE builds. So what are you all planning? I am going to do the following: 3 way LCR’s with TD10S (60-300hz), TD6m (300-3000hz), and the Mundorf AMT164U2.1 Tweeter 4 surround speakers using the TD8X (design up in the air at present – likely a di-pole (yeah, yeah, go ahead, have another swipe at me)) 2 subs with TD15H+ and 2 PR’s each (tuned to 16hz) 3 “balancing†subs with TD15H+ sealed All of the above will likely be driven by QSC DCA Amps and a QSC DCP300 doing all the crossover/dsp/eq work……..I can’t afford the electronics at the moment, so over the next 12 months or so I will be finishing the room and building the cabinets only……first in, last out I suspect Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry218 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 GREAT PROJECT im planning to build 3way with TD15 + TD8 + TC35 for electronic music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 As Henry already posted what a great project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewantsmoore Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 (edited) This is a sealed enclosure midbass with the Acoustic Elegance TD15M Crossover points at approximately 50 and 400 Hz (24 dB / octave) The group delay chart is for the box only (not filters) 1w = 96dB = 0.6mm 25w = 111dB = 3.3mm (Peak SPL) 85w = 116dB = 6mm (Xmax) 250w = 121dB = 10mm (Xmech) Edited April 1, 2014 by davewantsmoore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almikel Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 2 x Td18 in 60 litre sealed for mid bass X overs not locked in but around 60hz and 300hz using Deqx Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 4 x TD18H+ , a pair a side sealed 30hz to 250hz Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Spencer Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 2 x TD18H+ as a bass driver to go with my PSE-144 point source horn. 2 x TD6M - testing it out for a new project. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee Emm Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 4 x TD18H+ , a pair a side sealed 30hz to 250hz Cheers Soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Soft I'll send you a txt of how hard I can get :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svenr Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 @ Dave - stop using WinISD. The software has multiple errors in it that the developers won't fix as they stopped maintaining the code many years ago. For one, the additional resistance you put in doesn't correctly affect the parameters of the driver. The same goes for the increased voice coil temperature, which by the way has a much greater effect on the alignment than the cable resistance. There are e number of really good packages available - try LSPCad or LEAP Enclosure Designer, or even Hornresp paired with a spreadsheet for correcting the parameters for additional resistance and voice coil temperature. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry218 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 svenr, i just want to say that your avatar is really nice, inspiring and romantic at the same time cheers Henry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter the Greek Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) I'll send you a txt of how hard I can get :eek: svenr, i just want to say that your avatar is really nice, inspiring and romantic at the same time cheers Henry ......something odd is going on in this thread Edited April 6, 2014 by Peter the Greek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) svenr, i just want to say that your avatar is really nice, inspiring and romantic at the same time cheers Henry Cheers Edited April 6, 2014 by Malcolm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewantsmoore Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 WinISD Hi. Just use it for very quick sims of excursion and SPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svenr Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 @ Dave - it's incorrect for both if you are interested in the effects of additional resistance and voice coil temperature rise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antripodean Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Stop using WinISD. The software has multiple errors in it that the developers won't fix as they stopped maintaining the code many years ago. For one, the additional resistance you put in doesn't correctly affect the parameters of the driver. The same goes for the increased voice coil temperature, which by the way has a much greater effect on the alignment than the cable resistance. There are e number of really good packages available - try LSPCad or LEAP Enclosure Designer, or even Hornresp paired with a spreadsheet for correcting the parameters for additional resistance and voice coil temperature. Hi Sven Given we are doing the DIY thing and looking at using free software, it would be good if you could point me/us to a tutorial on using hornresp in such an application. I don't think it's right for this thread but if you could post in a new thread that would be appreciated. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewantsmoore Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Hi Sven Given we are doing the DIY thing and looking at using free software, it would be good if you could point me/us to a tutorial on using hornresp in such an application. I don't think it's right for this thread but if you could post in a new thread that would be appreciated. Thanks! If you're looking for closed/vented box with hornresp, then start here: http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/diy-subwoofers-general-discussion/36532-hornresp-dum-hmm-everyone.html#post324329 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antripodean Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 If you're looking for closed/vented box with hornresp, then start here: http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/diy-subwoofers-general-discussion/36532-hornresp-dum-hmm-everyone.html#post324329 Thanks but that doesn't explain the effects of additional resistance and voice coil temperature rise that Sven pointed out. @Sven - how do I progress to including these parameters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter the Greek Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 3 of these beauties turned up a few days ago (straight to the cupboard for about a year....but that's cool, got em now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 12 Cab's ready to go & one more pair to make Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry218 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 those IRWIN clamps are the BEST!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrapladm Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Peter where did you buy the AMT's from? Madisound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peter the Greek Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Leon at Soundlabs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Leon at Soundlabs Leon can get the complete range Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewantsmoore Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Hornresp paired with a spreadsheet for correcting the parameters for additional resistance and voice coil temperature. Thanks but that doesn't explain the effects of additional resistance and voice coil temperature rise that Sven pointed out. How do I progress to including these parameters? You must calculate how the temperature rise / resistance will change the parameters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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