jrisles Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Well that is according to J River. http://jriver.com/jplay.html I have been using this and still am. I was just googling about Jplay optimal settings for J River. I couldn't see where this has been discussed on this forum. Anyone have any opinion on this before i uninstall it myself? I like J River as a media player - very versatile and great for tagging files etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsgraha Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) I personally use jplay (with both foobar if lazy and jplay mini) with great result. I use ultrastream default setting, directlink for everything. I use server core r2 as operating system. My setup consist of custom fanless pc music server with linear psu, iusb to sonicweld diverter, to audio-gd ref7 dac, to dna stratus, with both hd800 and lcd-x. The improvement from foobar with ks is quite noticeable. But I never used jriver though. Hope it help Edited March 30, 2014 by Jsgraha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Rab of Everest Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 You sound like you believe them....? Why not compare for yourself? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaka Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I've got both, no contest. Jplay sounds better than JRiver The best of the mac players are nicer than JRiver too, I especially liked Amarra when I had a Mackintosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primare Knob Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 If the software is working why would it be a hoax ? I am personally getting sick and tired of their crusade against JPlay. It is literally infecting the functionality of their own software (by blocking playback with a pop up) and support (uninstall JPlay is their answer to every problem). At the moment I am trying to get Kernel Streaming working with JRiver in Core mode. I have it working on one system but I cannot get it to work on my main system. Funny enough by using the JPlay driver in JRiver with Kernel Streaming in the JPlay setting things are working fine. But using Kernel Streaming as a driver directly in JRiver it is simply not working. It is driving me nuts. The benefits of JPlay is that you seem to get optimized audio driver that is getting more and more compatible with other Media Server software packages and streaming applications. Depending on JRivers support I might abandon them and go JPlay all the way. To bad I cannot claim my money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jventer Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 On computer audiophile there have been lots of posting about this. When I had a windows machine I just used jplay on its own or with foobar. I do not understand jriver's campaign against jplay. I do not see the hardware /hifi manufacturers out there bagging their competitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nada Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) I tried JRiver alone and with JPlay. It was much better with the JPlay engine and it still had the excellent options and GUI. However it sounded much worse then Foobar to me. Then Foobar sounded even better using the JPlay engine. However JPlaymini sounded even better unhindered by either JRiver or Foobar. So is JPlay the best in my system. No longer as I just tried Bughead thanks to this thread Bug is heads above even JPlaymini on my Ultrabook Win7 USB to AP1. Like way better. Like the DAC just got a major update. Bug is also free with no nasty commercial backstabbing Edited March 30, 2014 by Nada 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damhooligan Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I do like jriver, but them bagging jplay is not doing them any favors. people can make up their own minds. I have not tried jplay yet, as I personally do not find it user friendly to use. My personal research told me, jplay is good to have if you want to stream. But not needed if you don't want to stream. I do not prefer streaming, and don't feel the need to try jplay. So I can't comment if jplay is good or not, I'm neutral on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningpanda Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I use JRiver (and occasionally Foobar) with Fidelizer in WIn 8. I think I can hear an improvement with Fidelizer but I can't hear any difference with JPlay. Certainly not enough to make me want to part with $147. I don't have an issue with JRiver opining that in their opinion as software developers users don't need to spend 3 times the cost of JRiver to get improved sound from their program. Obviously the author of Foobar feels a little more strongly about the matter. Bitperfect output from JRiver or Foobar is good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrisles Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 You sound like you believe them....? Why not compare for yourself? I don't really have an opinion hence the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoggieHowser Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Can you use Jplay with JRIver's up sampling of everything to 2xDSD? I found that on my setup, JRiver with DSD up sampling sounded better than direct mode on the Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewantsmoore Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Hoax to me implies that the makers of Jplay also do not believe it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Hall Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Slightly OT but how is Yarralumla? Comfortable? Does it have a nice listening room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted March 30, 2014 Volunteer Share Posted March 30, 2014 This is old news Jplay responded in June last year http://www.audiostream.com/content/jplay-responds-open-letter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrisles Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 This is old news Jplay responded in June last year http://www.audiostream.com/content/jplay-responds-open-letter Yep maybe old news. I did a search on SNA to see if it had already been discussed on here but couldn't find anything that was obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I have just upgraded my Jriver 18 to MC 19 and have found it to be a big improvement over 18. This is especially the case with DSD. I have downloaded the trial version of Jplay to try and see what the fuss is all about. As far as I can see they are both excellent, listening to yellowjackets time squared at the moment and in my system it appears that Jplay mini has a bit more emphasis on the bass and Jriver 19 seems to have a bit more emphasis on the treble. The drum cymbals are a lot crisper and the bass is a bit less pronounced in MC19. I have to say I am enjoying both (except the 2 min freeze on the trial version of Jplay). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrisles Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 I have just upgraded my Jriver 18 to MC 19 and have found it to be a big improvement over 18. This is especially the case with DSD. I have downloaded the trial version of Jplay to try and see what the fuss is all about. As far as I can see they are both excellent, listening to yellowjackets time squared at the moment and in my system it appears that Jplay mini has a bit more emphasis on the bass and Jriver 19 seems to have a bit more emphasis on the treble. The drum cymbals are a lot crisper and the bass is a bit less pronounced in MC19. I have to say I am enjoying both (except the 2 min freeze on the trial version of Jplay). Are you listening to JPLAY integrated into J River though? JPlay uses J River right to be played? Or do you use a dedicated JPlay player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satanica Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 The maker(s) of Foobar have also called Jplay a hoax or thereabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Listener Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Well that is according to J River. http://jriver.com/jplay.html I have been using this and still am. I was just googling about Jplay optimal settings for J River. I couldn't see where this has been discussed on this forum. Anyone have any opinion on this before i uninstall it myself? I like J River as a media player - very versatile and great for tagging files etc. Jeff. I have JRiver and JPlay and have tried them in two configurations, Single PC and Dual PC. My opinion and in my system is:- In a Single PC I find no advantage to JPlay, I am unable to hear a difference and there is no other benefit that I might use i.e. Hibernation mode on a Single PC is a big PITA. However, in a Dual PC setup JPlay [along with Audiophile Optimizer] enables both PC's to be in Core Mode with Kernel Streaming and the Audio PC in Hibernation. This greatly improves the sound. But IMHO JPLay only enables​ Core Mode and KS in Dual PC which improves the sound. Although Hibernation [from JPlay] may add a bit to it.[from JPlay] I do not doubt some people find JPlay an improvement on a Single PC, I just don't. The cost of JPlay though is IMHO way too much for what it is. That said I still bought it didn't I? Steven. If you find yourself at the top end of the Sunny Coast come and have a listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKay Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Are you listening to JPLAY integrated into J River though? JPlay uses J River right to be played? Or do you use a dedicated JPlay player? As I am only using the test version I am using JPlay mini. This simply involves copying the songs I want to listen to onto JPlay Mini (once it is opened) and playing by pressing the space bar. The songs must be stored in some sort of memory cache. This is a very short term solution as I have become spoiled with my ipad and JRiver. I will try and work out how to use JPlay with JRiver to see if there is any difference. At this stage I wouldn't think it is worth the extra 100 Euros, especially since I am using a laptop with only 4gig of ram and windows 8 not windows server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavtron Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I do not doubt some people find JPlay an improvement on a Single PC, I just don't. I'm using a single PC setup and prefer Jplay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavtron Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I'm using a single PC setup and prefer Jplay But now it's time to try Bughead! Thanks @@Nada 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr K Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Can you use Jplay with JRIver's up sampling of everything to 2xDSD? I found that on my setup, JRiver with DSD up sampling sounded better than direct mode on the Mac Yes, I run it that way in dual PC mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr K Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 As I am only using the test version I am using JPlay mini. This simply involves copying the songs I want to listen to onto JPlay Mini (once it is opened) and playing by pressing the space bar. The songs must be stored in some sort of memory cache. This is a very short term solution as I have become spoiled with my ipad and JRiver. I will try and work out how to use JPlay with JRiver to see if there is any difference. At this stage I wouldn't think it is worth the extra 100 Euros, especially since I am using a laptop with only 4gig of ram and windows 8 not windows server. See post #7 in the "Windows Server R2 Core mode with Kernel Streaming" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrisles Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Jeff. I have JRiver and JPlay and have tried them in two configurations, Single PC and Dual PC. My opinion and in my system is:- In a Single PC I find no advantage to JPlay, I am unable to hear a difference and there is no other benefit that I might use i.e. Hibernation mode on a Single PC is a big PITA. However, in a Dual PC setup JPlay [along with Audiophile Optimizer] enables both PC's to be in Core Mode with Kernel Streaming and the Audio PC in Hibernation. This greatly improves the sound. But IMHO JPLay only enables​ Core Mode and KS in Dual PC which improves the sound. Although Hibernation [from JPlay] may add a bit to it.[from JPlay] I do not doubt some people find JPlay an improvement on a Single PC, I just don't. The cost of JPlay though is IMHO way too much for what it is. That said I still bought it didn't I? Steven. If you find yourself at the top end of the Sunny Coast come and have a listen. What do you mean by "Single PC" & "Dual PC"??? Now i own a version of JPlay and i have had it for awhile. I cannot ever recall spending $EU100 for this? Has it always cost this much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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