Bybee Quantum Purifiers

[Lenehan Audio]

As a matter of logic, that is obviously a possibility. The other obvious possibility is that there is nothing to hear.

I could hear differences between cables in that system and the differences between Toppers on and off the speakers. For the record, I preferred the sound with them off.

Hi Tele

Yup some interesting bits here ! And what your hearing here is relevant in more than one area.

1. There is a significant resolution increase with one set of Bybees in my factory system . The reason you couldn't hear it could be explained below.

My son was a pro golfer and had an amateur handicap of +2 ,he held the amateur course record at Palm Meadows at 8 under all before commencing his career and retiring very soon after ! Why am I telling you this ? Well let's call his big matches golfing GTG's !

Under this pressure he was lucky to hold Par. His brain frequency went above 20hz (beta)

Ok what I'm saying is that if you were at my factory alone and I did that demo you would hear what Bybee's can do ! No doubt. Particularly if I said I need to go into the office and check a few emails and left you alone with the system thereby nipping the pressure down one notch more.

2. AMG Toppers. My Brother listened to the AMG's and said he preferred the system without them ! Ok after listening 2 or three times more over a couple of days he said , Wait !! Your right the system is higher Rez and superior with them, I now prefer them on .

Ok so how's that ? Russ always says he likes his music to FLOW ( Oooooh Yeeear Baby ) and without the AMG's on the ML2Ref the stop starts between the notes are Juuuust a Liiiiitle slooower . This is Doppler time smearing distortion and the AMG's significantly reduce this by cancelling the for aft movement of the speaker on the stand .

These are simple engineering facts ! The Taipei Tower has a 60 ton tuned AMG (or TMD tuned mass damper)at the top to stop the building swaying back and forth . Of course the odd person may like to work on the 85th floor and sway back and forth 2.5 mtrs but most will prefer stable footing and the lack of nausea. Older style valve amps with highish output impedances and slightly elevated 2nd harmonics also appeal to some who like music to sound a little surreal. Man I'm starting Ta ramble.

Best Regards Mike Lenehan

LenehanAudio

[Telecine]

The audition of the Bybees was admittedly short but I must say that I didn't feel under any pressure. Happy to listen to them again on another occasion.

I heard the Toppers over a lengthy period but the time without them was rather short.

These are subjective impressions of course but what I experienced at the time.

[sir sanders zingmore]

Now I see the quantum paradoxes inherent in these threads.

This thread is simultaneously about a product that works absolutely and that at the same time works only if it is your opinion that it works

A quantum duality in which Mike and Bill can completely contradict each other and yet coexist as a single, unified Lenehan wave/particle

Edited April 6, 2014 by Sir Sanders Zingmore

[bzr]

Ha!....I think :huh:  ^^^

Edited April 6, 2014 by groot

[Peter_F]

This thread is simultaneously about a product that works absolutely and that at the same time works only if it is your opinion that it works

 

Doesn't that rule apply to all things hi-fi, and all related threads on SNA?  

[Lenehan Audio]

Now I see the quantum paradoxes inherent in these threads.

This thread is simultaneously about a product that works absolutely and that at the same time works only if it is your opinion that it works

A quantum duality in which Mike and Bill can completely contradict each other and yet coexist as a single, unified Lenehan wave/particle

I hear exactly what you are saying Zing !! And would totally agree if not for my many years disseminating the true hypothetical ramifications of string theory.

I also feel the need to expose Bill ! AKA bhobba as an energy field from the Antares Nebula . By the way we've finally re configured the wave/particle and have come up with our new Linear/particle mod ,which will be available for ! You guessed it $1000 with free shipping.

So I'm calling a GTG I'm sure you'll all hear the improvement.

Best Regards Mike Lenehan

LenehanAudio

[bhobba]

What makes you think I don't listen to things ?

 

I never said you didn't.

 

And if you do that's what you should report - not a statement about a picture that has been repeated umpteen times in this and innumerable other threads.

 

Saying the same thing over, and over, and over, and over, and over again telling people they're deluded as they try to discuss an audio tweak can't really be that good for your self-confidence? 

 

The point is, as Alistair said, exactly what is there to gain by saying over and over again its just a resistor?  Does it add anything to the dialogue?  It was discussed at the start of the thread - bringing it up again and again is useless.

 

The question is - why do it?

 

Thanks

Bill

Edited April 6, 2014 by bhobba

[sir sanders zingmore]

What's the point of saying over and over again that it is *not* just a resistor

[bhobba]

A quantum duality in which Mike and Bill can completely contradict each other and yet coexist as a single, unified Lenehan wave/particle

 

Lets just say on certain fundamental issues in audio my and Mike's philosophy differ somewhat.

 

As you can see Mike basically believes if there is a difference everyone will hear it.  I am not of that view.  I have been humbled many many times by people with better hearing, experience, whatever you want to call it than me.  But I will say sometimes by careful listening and things being pointed out I can pick it up, but that sometimes is far from always - I have walked away defeated quite a few times shaking my head and saying - I cant hear it. 

 

Thanks

Bill 

[DoggieHowser]

What's the point of saying over and over again that it is *not* just a resistor

 

And what's the point of saying over and over again that it *is* just a resistor

[bhobba]

What's the point of saying over and over again that it is *not* just a resistor

 

Great - we have both sides agreeing there is no point to it.

 

But just for the record I haven't gone down that track for quite a few posts - simply pointing out it has all been discussed previously.

 

Thanks

Bill

Edited April 6, 2014 by bhobba

[proftournesol]

I'll repeat this comment as nobody seems to have taken it into account in the discussions since, but the Bybee should really be compared (blinded) to a standard resistor of equal value.

[sir sanders zingmore]

And what's the point of saying over and over again that it *is* just a resistor

Did I?

[bhobba]

I'll repeat this comment as nobody seems to have taken it into account in the discussions since, but the Bybee should really be compared (blinded) to a standard resistor of equal value.

 

I thought that was one of the things Steve M and his group were going to do.

 

I could be mistaken though.

 

Thanks

Bill

[sir sanders zingmore]

Lets just say on certain fundamental issues in audio my and Mike's philosophy differ somewhat.

As you can see Mike basically believes if there is a difference everyone will hear it. I am not of that view. I have been humbled many many times by people with better hearing, experience, whatever you want to call it than me. But I will say sometimes by careful listening and things being pointed out I can pick it up, but that sometimes is far from always - I have walked away defeated quite a few times shaking my head and saying - I cant hear it.

Thanks

Bill

But do you ever entertain, ever so slightly, just the teensiest tiny bit, the idea that if there is *no* difference people may think they hear a difference?

Are you open minded enough to admit that might happen?

Edited April 6, 2014 by Sir Sanders Zingmore

[DoggieHowser]

Did I?

You take Bill to task for one but not for those who keep doing the other. Edited April 6, 2014 by DoggieHowser

[sir sanders zingmore]

You take Bill to task for one but not for those who keep doing the other.

Aah the quantum duality again. You want me to argue on *both* sides simultaneously otherwise it's not fair?

Edited April 6, 2014 by Sir Sanders Zingmore

[bhobba]

But do you ever entertain, ever so slightly, just the teensiest tiny bit, the idea that if there is *no* difference people may think they hear a difference?

Are you open minded enough to admit that might happen?

 

I think you have me confused with someone else.

 

I have written many times, especially in threads about blind testing, such is indeed possible.

 

I will state it for the record - what I and the people I heard the Bybees with heard could be all in our imagination.  I don't think so, but its possible.

 

One reason for that is it was with the maker of the speaker, Mike, who has contributed to this thread.  He knows what small values of resistance do when put in series with the drivers.  In fact its one of those bugbears he constantly fights against by using very thick air coil inductors - 12 or even 10 gauge - and I think he would like to move to even 8 gauge.  I think he mentioned it slows a speaker down and dampens the bass - but he is best to comment on that and coil gauges.  This is not what Bybees did to our ears.

 

Thanks

Bill

[DoggieHowser]

Aah the quantum duality again. You want me to argue on *both* sides simultaneously otherwise it's not fair?

Good for the goose, I gather.

[sir sanders zingmore]

Good for the goose, I gather.

You may not be aware (or even care for that matter) but I am part of the group that has decided to put their money where their mouth is and stump up for a set of bybees.

When it's my turn, I'll be open minded and post my impressions.

[THOMO]

I think I will just ask to borrow some Jorma Prime cables from a friend,cut out the Bybees, and give them back to him and see if he notices any difference.

Sounds like a fair way of getting an unbiased judgement to me. And it will not cost me cent.

Anybody want to lend me a pair of Jorma Prime cables?