andyr Posted January 16 Posted January 16 57 minutes ago, rantan said: Hipsters! A blight upon humanity. True ... but I reckon a diesel Golf is worse!
RCAJack Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Capgun said: Thank you very much, I will have a look at them. Where do the operate from? In Perth? They’re in Gingin! https://marchaudio.com/contact/
cafe67 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 One of these would fit the bill perhaps ? https://www.customht.com.au/collections/rotel/products/rotel-diamond-series-ra-6000-integrated-amplifier 3
Cafad Posted January 17 Posted January 17 There are also power amps from Elektra, Plinius, Threshold and Halcro (the logic rather than the DM series) in the classifieds. There are power amp products on offer over quite a price range at the moment. There's also Stello and Sansui integrated amps on offer too, both excellent products. Plenty of choice. 2
frankn Posted January 17 Posted January 17 I have a mint pair of March Audio mono-block amplifiers in the classifieds - these will power the speakers without breaking a sweat. You will need a preamp or a DAC with volume control but at my price you’ll have the funds
Capgun Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 On 15/01/2025 at 3:29 PM, rantan said: Definitely Class AB. Some uninformed people in the audio industry ( who should know better ) often call aa Class D amplifier as a digital amplifier but it is nothing of the sort. I am going to recommend an integrated amplifier that will have no problem with getting the best from the Gales and trust me, these speakers are well worth the effort. This fits your budget and is a reliable, musical and powerful integrated amplifier which is almost bulletproof and one that will not make your ears bleed. https://www.klappav.com.au/shop/amplifiers/m6si-220-watt-dual-mono-integrated-amplifier-silver/?srsltid=AfmBOorDHYdZcn-0qsJ74VDkk8Qg-SQCIMU57K0T1cp9T47l6emXcSTj5MY Excuse my ignorance, is it important to have digital to analog converter for the speakers I want to run? Am I wrong in saying this Rotel does not have that function?
rantan Posted January 17 Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Capgun said: Excuse my ignorance, is it important to have digital to analog converter for the speakers I want to run? Am I wrong in saying this Rotel does not have that function? There is no ignorance when you are new and just starting out, only learning. Having an onboard DAC is not essential to the operation of the amplifier and certainly not required to drive the speakers in any way. What the Rotel (and many other modern integrateds ) offers is a built in DAC, which can connect to a streamer so that you can play streamed subscription music from Qobuz, Tidal etc. When seeking the best amplifier for the Gales this facility has no bearing whatsoever and the Rotel Diamond integrated is a VERY good amplifier that just so happens to have a DAC inside. At the heavily discounted pricing on the amp, it is a veritable bargain and although you can definitely improve upon it, you would need to spend almost double and it will do the job very well indeed.. 1
andyr Posted January 17 Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, rantan said: There is no ignorance when you are new and just starting out, only learning. Having an onboard DAC is not essential to the operation of the amplifier and certainly not required to drive the speakers in any way. What the Rotel (and many other modern integrateds ) offers is a built in DAC, which can connect to a streamer so that you can play streamed subscription music from Qobuz, Tidal etc. When seeking the best amplifier for the Gales this facility has no bearing whatsoever and the Rotel Diamond integrated is a VERY good amplifier that just so happens to have a DAC inside. At the heavily discounted pricing on the amp, it is a veritable bargain and although you can definitely improve upon it, you would need to spend almost double and it will do the job very well indeed.. Why do you say "it will do the job very well"? All I could find, in terms of specs, was "350w output" - with no help as to whether this was: * rms or 'music power' * into 8ohms ... or 4 ohms.
pete_mac Posted January 17 Posted January 17 14 minutes ago, andyr said: Why do you say "it will do the job very well"? All I could find, in terms of specs, was "350w output" - with no help as to whether this was: * rms or 'music power' * into 8ohms ... or 4 ohms. Specs and measurements here: https://www.stereophile.com/content/rotel-ra-6000-integrated-amplifier-measurements
Capgun Posted January 17 Author Posted January 17 12 hours ago, pete_mac said: Specs and measurements here: https://www.stereophile.com/content/rotel-ra-6000-integrated-amplifier-measurements Not even sure that review is good or bad. I did get and PS audio Stellar Strata offered to me for 2800. Not sure of the comparison, to me, it looks like power.
rantan Posted January 17 Posted January 17 14 hours ago, andyr said: Seems it might do the job. That line seems familiar. Obviously posted by someone who knows their schit
muzzagruzz Posted January 18 Posted January 18 I believe there is a Gryphon Diablo 120 integrated in the classifieds. 2
POV Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) I have a pair of Gale 401s. that I use for background listening in my home library. In my view people really over dramatise the power requirements, and their impedance isn't actually that low. Yes they sound better with high current amplifiers and with more amplifier headroom, but seriously essentially all speakers do. At the moment I have the Gales running off a Denon PMA-1700 and they sound great, and I can run them loud with no amplifier protection mode ever been triggered. For what it's worth I actually had them running off a relatively cheap Roksan Atessa integrated for ages, with no issues at all. I plugged it in just to see have a play about and it sounded good so I just ended up leaving it. As often, I wonder how many people commenting have ever actually owned a pair and trialled them with different amps? As always buy the best amplifier that you can afford, but your $5k budget will be plenty to get an amp that will sound great with them. I personally recomend the Denon-Gale pairing, which I think is a very sweet combo. The PMA-3000 would I think be a great buy for your budget. Edited January 18 by POV 5
kelossus Posted January 18 Posted January 18 45 minutes ago, POV said: Yes they sound better with high current amplifiers and with more amplifier headroom, but seriously essentially all speakers do. 100% agree on that last statement. To my surprise most hold the opposite opinion.
rantan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, POV said: As often, I wonder how many people commenting have ever actually owned a pair and trialled them with different amps? I bought one of the very first pairs of Gales when they came to Australia and I also sold many, many more in another life, so YES, I owned sold and used then for probably ten years. Just curious to see if I am qualified to say that with Gales more is power definitely and emphatically going to realise their full potential. Sure, you can use them with garden variety amps and they may even sound good, but you will never know why they achieved legendary status until you find the right amplifier. Edited January 18 by rantan 3
POV Posted January 18 Posted January 18 14 minutes ago, rantan said: I bought one of the very first pairs of Gales when they came to Australia and I also sold many, many more in another life, so YES, I owned sold and used then for probably ten years. Just curious to see if I am qualified to say that with Gales more is power definitely and emphatically going to realise their full potential. Sure, you can use them with garden variety amps and they may even sound good, but you will never know why they achieved legendary status until you find the right amplifier. No need to get snippy, of course you are qualified. I do however think that there are people commenting here without that extensive experience and just off hearsay. I will disagree somewhat with your position though, after trialling many amps I think it’s actually high current amplifiers that get the best out of the Gales rather than high power. This is why I think the higher end Denons are such a good match. But perhaps I don’t know what I’m talking about. Who can say. 1
cafe67 Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 15/1/2025 at 4:41 PM, Capgun said: I can't thank you enough, once I get this set up I'll let you all know how it goes!!! Whereabouts in Perth are you ?
rantan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) @POVit's all fine mate and no issue here. My sarcasm may be taking a front seat. The other thing is that you are 100% correct about current being more important than watts and this is one of my pet causes which I should have mentioned before. Cheers. Edited January 18 by rantan
rantan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 This thread has got me wanting to buy some Gales again. As everybody here knows I have a Luxman Class A, which despite the wattage is very high current, but several times lately I have put off buying Gales until I can hear them with my amplifier. Apologies to the OP for the OT. 1
POV Posted January 18 Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, rantan said: This thread has got me wanting to buy some Gales again. As everybody here knows I have a Luxman Class A, which despite the wattage is very high current, but several times lately I have put off buying Gales until I can hear them with my amplifier. Apologies to the OP for the OT. Im in New Zealand at the moment opening a new office. Was meant to be a couple of months but has turned out there is need to stay longer. When I get back to Australia I’m sure we can sought something out. 1
rantan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 2 minutes ago, POV said: When I get back to Australia I’m sure we can sought something out. Wow! That would be amazing, thanks for your great offer. Please feel free to PM when it is convenient to you. No rush though. Thanks again.
andyr Posted January 18 Posted January 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, rantan said: Sure, you can use them with garden variety amps and they may even sound good, but you will never know why they achieved legendary status until you find the right amplifier. Like so many Maggie owners never ever get to hear them sound special. (As they simply don't have an amp which can deliver a good amount of current into 4 ohms.) 57 minutes ago, rantan said: As everybody here knows I have a Luxman Class A, which despite the wattage is very high current What is its current output? 10a ... or 40a? Edited January 18 by andyr
rantan Posted January 18 Posted January 18 19 minutes ago, andyr said: What is its current output? 10a ... or 40a? IIRC the current output is 30a. Power is 20/8ohms and 40 /4 ohms (Class A )
Capgun Posted January 18 Author Posted January 18 2 hours ago, cafe67 said: Whereabouts in Perth are you ? Hillarys 1
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