Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted

Hi I'm  going to look for a new sub soon, and would like some advise on what size I need.

My room is about 3.6m X 3.6m

I use floor standing speakers I've been comparing my 2 sets to see what I like better (haven't decided yet)

Dali concept 6 fronts and my accusound ref 8.6 fronts.

I have a Polk s30 center

And some small rears.

 

Only really want to spend around $1000 Australian.

I've seen the Polk signature elite 8 , 10 and 12" on sale at a store near me but I'm unsure what there like and what size I need.

Posted
2 hours ago, Redterror6 said:

Hi I'm  going to look for a new sub soon, and would like some advise on what size I need.

My room is about 3.6m X 3.6m

I use floor standing speakers I've been comparing my 2 sets to see what I like better (haven't decided yet)

Dali concept 6 fronts and my accusound ref 8.6 fronts.

I have a Polk s30 center

And some small rears.

 

Only really want to spend around $1000 Australian.

I've seen the Polk signature elite 8 , 10 and 12" on sale at a store near me but I'm unsure what there like and what size I need.

Is this mainly for home theatre??

Posted

I think it is unlikely you'll regret getting the biggest and best subwoofer you want to spend money on, so do that.

  • Like 1
Posted

With a square room you're likely to have issues with room modes creating nulls, so two subs may be required to get even bass response, but you can try one.

 

IMO you're better with a sub from a specialist sub manufacturer. Bang for buck, hard to beat an SVS SB1000.

 

  • Like 4

Posted

Don't get sucked down the rabbit hole of Rel's marketing ploy that their high level connection is better.

I've nothing against Rel subs - but IMHO low level connections are superior, especially if you can implement a proper crossover between mains and sub (ie high pass the mains and low pass the sub).

 

I've no idea about the current cost of subs, but SVS and Rythmik are well regarded (I run Rythmik).

 

Mike

  • Like 1
Posted (edited)

I strongly recommend you consider a Tonewinner SWD2000 12" sub. Great sub for the money. I have one and am very happy with it in my 2.1 system.

Edited by DazzS
  • Like 1
Posted
20 hours ago, almikel said:

high level connection is better.

Hi Mike

i have a REL connected to my MICHI amp for 2.1 ch connected via high level.  Do you suggest I connect the REL to the Sub out connection on the amp instead?  I am not sure what the cross over is set to.

the amp also has pre outs that I could potentially use

Posted
On 03/01/2025 at 1:56 PM, Quark said:

With a square room you're likely to have issues with room modes creating nulls, so two subs may be required to get even bass response, but you can try one.

 

IMO you're better with a sub from a specialist sub manufacturer. Bang for buck, hard to beat an SVS SB1000.

 

 

I do like the look of the svs 1000

Is there much difference between the ported and sealed models

Posted
52 minutes ago, DazzS said:

I strongly recommend you consider a Tonewinner SWD2000 12" sub. Great sub for the money. I have one and am very happy with it in my 2.1 system.

I have also looked at the tonewinners as there are bit cheaper just haven't been able to find many reviews on them

Posted
9 minutes ago, Redterror6 said:

 

I do like the look of the svs 1000

Is there much difference between the ported and sealed models

The ported model will have a bit more output at some levels, but probably not needed for your size room. The sealed model's bass will be more accurate (tighter) for music.

  • Like 1
Posted
21 hours ago, almikel said:

Don't get sucked down the rabbit hole of Rel's marketing ploy that their high level connection is better.

I've nothing against Rel subs - but IMHO low level connections are superior, especially if you can implement a proper crossover between mains and sub (ie high pass the mains and low pass the sub).

 

I've no idea about the current cost of subs, but SVS and Rythmik are well regarded (I run Rythmik).

 

Mike

Marketing or not it works. Its a little complicated to get the right answer for D class amp hook ups but once sorted nothing wrong with the high level connection.

  • Like 2
Posted
1 hour ago, JkSpinner said:

Hi Mike

i have a REL connected to my MICHI amp for 2.1 ch connected via high level.  Do you suggest I connect the REL to the Sub out connection on the amp instead?  I am not sure what the cross over is set to.

the amp also has pre outs that I could potentially use

Hi JkS,

 

I wouldn't change just for the sake of it - I'm also a big believer in, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"!

I'd be reasonably confident you wouldn't hear any difference just changing your Rel sub from high level to low level input.

My point is there's nothing inherently "better" in a high level connection to a sub, which is what Rel claim.

 

There's clear benefits in low level connections when a crossover is implemented (ie high pass the mains and low pass the sub/s) - but if you're not high passing the main speakers, there's no difference between the high level and low level connections.

 

Mike

Posted
1 hour ago, JkSpinner said:

Hi Mike

i have a REL connected to my MICHI amp for 2.1 ch connected via high level.  Do you suggest I connect the REL to the Sub out connection on the amp instead?  I am not sure what the cross over is set to.

the amp also has pre outs that I could potentially use

 

22 hours ago, almikel said:

but IMHO low level connections are superior

I'll retract my statement - low level connections to subs aren't superior to high level connections - they'll sound the same.

IMHO low level connections are superior when a Xover is implemented between mains and sub/s.

 

My beef with Rel is they claim high level connections to subs are superior to low level connections.

 

Mike

Posted
1 minute ago, almikel said:

 

 

 

My beef with Rel is they claim high level connections to subs are superior to low level connections.

 

Mike

I agree their rationale, a la, because it comes out of the amp the same way as the main speakers, is a little unsupported by anything approaching scientific evidence. 😄

Posted
1 hour ago, crisis said:

Its a little complicated to get the right answer for D class amp hook ups

The number of posts relating to amps blown up using the Rel high level speaker connections is huge.

It's not constrained to class D amps - it's about the earthing of the output stage of the amp - bridged amps (whatever class) have the same issue - ie when the -ve speaker terminal on the amp is not tied to earth/ground.

 

Things go bad for the amplifier if the -ve terminal of the high level speaker output gets tied to ground by the Rel sub 😞 

The fact that Rel have numerous connection methods for earth to avoid this issue with their high level connection is testament to maybe high level connections aren't "better", as Rel claim?

 

This earthing issue does not occur with low level connections.

 

For a typical amp (not bridged), with the usual earthing, the Rel high level connection will work fine and IMHO there will be no discernable sound difference between the low level connection and the high level connection.

 

Mike

Posted
2 hours ago, Redterror6 said:

 

I do like the look of the svs 1000

Is there much difference between the ported and sealed models

On a quick scan I can't find the physical dimensions of each sub on the site - but the ported PB1000 will be physically larger than either the sealed SB1000 Classic or the SB1000 Pro.

This is expected - for the same driver, a ported box will always be larger than a sealed box.

 

2 hours ago, Quark said:

The ported model will have a bit more output at some levels, but probably not needed for your size room. The sealed model's bass will be more accurate (tighter) for music.

Agreed that the ported model will have a bit more output.

Any of them will sound great.

 

3 hours ago, DazzS said:

I strongly recommend you consider a Tonewinner SWD2000 12" sub. Great sub for the money. I have one and am very happy with it in my 2.1 system.

I've not listened to the Tonewinner - but I've now seen a few posts on SNA recommending them.

They're rear ported - so some consideration on placement close to walls is required.

A smidge more power (400W) than the SVS pro models (325W) - worth consideration.

 

cheers,

Mike

 

Posted
16 hours ago, Redterror6 said:

I have also looked at the tonewinners as there are bit cheaper just haven't been able to find many reviews on them

Yeah there's not a lot of reviews available but there are some detailed ones by a Canadian guy on YouTube (can't recall his name/channel now) that I found helpful. I think that's more a reflection of them being quite new and not having anywhere near the same exposure as SVS etc.

I got mine for a really good price on sale from Selby ($1000AU) and I've been very happy with how it performs for movies and music (music was my priority). I also found it to be fairly unfussy about placement, and the app is pretty great. There is a thread on here with other tonewinner owners and you will see everyone there seems to be very happy. SVS etc are obviously great subs, but I think they're riding on their rep/brand recognition and are overpriced here in Aus.

Posted
13 hours ago, almikel said:

On a quick scan I can't find the physical dimensions of each sub on the site - but the ported PB1000 will be physically larger than either the sealed SB1000 Classic or the SB1000 Pro.

This is expected - for the same driver, a ported box will always be larger than a sealed box.

 

Agreed that the ported model will have a bit more output.

Any of them will sound great.

 

I've not listened to the Tonewinner - but I've now seen a few posts on SNA recommending them.

They're rear ported - so some consideration on placement close to walls is required.

A smidge more power (400W) than the SVS pro models (325W) - worth consideration.

 

cheers,

Mike

 

I've got my tonewinner positioned close to the wall and haven't had a problem with the sound/integration.

Posted

hi op, i see you are in S.A. sorry about that. as a 2nd hand buyer S.A. does not get many 2nd hand subs such as svs, krix etc and usually they are over priced. the svs 1000 series originals are usually on so called run out pricing somewhere however they are also the most found being sold 2nd hand. the pro versions dont come up much and it seems they are a much better unit. however unless its black friday 30% off sale they can seem pricey.

having said that the T.W. products are usually on sale at Selby 3 or 4 times a year so something  to watch for, though i am not sure they are set up correctly in store.

there is the new klipsch RP subs that Blackwood sound have on special sometimes, thye rp1200 and 1400 are very popular o/s/.

i reckon visit a few stores and see what they can show you, keep looking out 2nd hand as you get to hear the sub in a home environment, even if you dont buy it its a free test.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.




×
×
  • Create New...
To Top