Supporting local talent

[Guest Moon 600i V2]

In 1971 Canada created CanCon (Canadian Content) regulations to ensure that domestic artists had a chance competing for broadcast time against the behemoths from the US and UK. Initially 25% of radio airplay was to be provided by Canadian artists. It was increased to 30% in 1980. It was so successful in launching Canadian artists that it is no longer needed. Radio was vital to launching artists in Canada because touring the long distances to a relatively sparse population, by land mass, was was financially prohibitive. Did/does Australia have a similar problem and does the government step in to help? Thankfully the internet, and not CanCon, launched Justin Bieber.

[aussievintage]

2 hours ago, Moon 600i V2 said:

Did/does Australia have a similar problem and does the government step in to help?

 

I seem to remember the mandated a certain percentage of television to be locally made.  I also remember  our version of top40 music hits was often done by local people - but whether that was due to copyright and local performing rights, or the government, I am not sure.

[wasabijim]

yes there is Oz regulation in place that applies to commercial radio stations and (several/all???) the ABC stations to play onshore talent. There was a story I read recently (hopefully some one else may reference it for me) that went over the details and if it should/could apply to streaming platforms with the curated and promoted playlists. If I recall many of the stations currently would use low audience times (i.e. deep after hours) to achieve quotas while feeding the people what they want during  peak times  

[Guest Moon 600i V2]

17 minutes ago, wasabijim said:

yes there is Oz regulation in place that applies to commercial radio stations and (several/all???) the ABC stations to play onshore talent. There was a story I read recently (hopefully some one else may reference it for me) that went over the details and if it should/could apply to streaming platforms with the curated and promoted playlists. If I recall many of the stations currently would use low audience times (i.e. deep after hours) to achieve quotas while feeding the people what they want during  peak times  

As with everything governments touch there was serious evidence of overreach especially in TV. Although SCTV was written, produced and performed by Canadians, it was asked to include a percentage of specific Canadian content. The genius solution was Canadian Corner with the Mckenzie Brothers eh!

[mrbuzzardstubble]

10 hours ago, Moon 600i V2 said:

As with everything governments touch there was serious evidence of overreach especially in TV. Although SCTV was written, produced and performed by Canadians, it was asked to include a percentage of specific Canadian content. The genius solution was Canadian Corner with the Mckenzie Brothers eh!

SCTV, Second City TV? That was televised in Australia in the early 80s. My first exposure to John Candy etc.

[NoCoder]

As a pretty solid follower of  the local Rock, Indie, Alternate, folk music scene, it's not easy to come across new bands in the last 10+ years unless you are actively seeking them out. Radio is essentially dead (esp. for anyone under 25) and commercial radio is horrendous (ads, and same songs daily). Very limited music shows now...really only Rage still has that offering and younger people do everything through Tiktok. Most of the successful artists now have mossive Tiktok following and I know my kids have come across artists I like form yesteryear, purely through a song theire being in a Tiktok clip.

 

I try and follow the bands I like on their socials, and a lot of them mention their label mates or touring buddies, which I will then have a listen too.  I also check out suggestions on Streaming services, of which some are terrible misses for me, but also have found some great ones. A band I have followed closely, from Melbourne, who've released a few Ep's and 2 x Full length albums has just finished up because they are literally losing money as a band. The cost of touring and playing small venues and also releasing physical music has become too much for them.

 

I also have some like minded friends and we share any new music we've come across.

 

I am not young, born in 70's, and love lots of  70's and 90's music (with very select splashes of 80's), but will say that some of my favourite music has been by artists I listen to in the last 5-10 years. Some of it certainly has sounds and influences of previous eras, but most music has been influenced by what has come previously.

 

It is out there, but you have to find it now

 

I much prefer going to see local band gigs in Brisbane and paying anywhere from $35 -$100 for a gig in a smaller venue, than spending $300 on a major artists and being 70m away from the stage. I do make exceptions my my favourite artists, but not often I go to stadium tours

 

 

[Guest Moon 600i V2]

27 minutes ago, NoCoder said:

As a pretty solid follower of  the local Rock, Indie, Alternate, folk music scene, it's not easy to come across new bands in the last 10+ years unless you are actively seeking them out. Radio is essentially dead (esp. for anyone under 25) and commercial radio is horrendous (ads, and same songs daily). Very limited music shows now...really only Rage still has that offering and younger people do everything through Tiktok. Most of the successful artists now have mossive Tiktok following and I know my kids have come across artists I like form yesteryear, purely through a song theire being in a Tiktok clip.

 

I try and follow the bands I like on their socials, and a lot of them mention their label mates or touring buddies, which I will then have a listen too.  I also check out suggestions on Streaming services, of which some are terrible misses for me, but also have found some great ones. A band I have followed closely, from Melbourne, who've released a few Ep's and 2 x Full length albums has just finished up because they are literally losing money as a band. The cost of touring and playing small venues and also releasing physical music has become too much for them.

 

I also have some like minded friends and we share any new music we've come across.

 

I am not young, born in 70's, and love lots of  70's and 90's music (with very select splashes of 80's), but will say that some of my favourite music has been by artists I listen to in the last 5-10 years. Some of it certainly has sounds and influences of previous eras, but most music has been influenced by what has come previously.

 

It is out there, but you have to find it now

 

I much prefer going to see local band gigs in Brisbane and paying anywhere from $35 -$100 for a gig in a smaller venue, than spending $300 on a major artists and being 70m away from the stage. I do make exceptions my my favourite artists, but not often I go to stadium tours

 

 

I still listen to FM for jazz but anything else is so programmed by "consultants" that it is not worth seeking out. So I stream Radio Paradise and local radio in the car. I found that having a subscription to a music service was not useful as I always have something in mind that I want to play so I just pull out the LP or CD. I'm still catching up on things that I missed in the '60s to '80s. Led Zeppelin was so ubiquitous in the '70s that I only gave it a chance twenty years ago. Same with Bob Dylan and Tom Petty etc.. I was born in 1951. So much music, so little time.

[wasabijim]

12 hours ago, NoCoder said:

As a pretty solid follower of  the local Rock, Indie, Alternate, folk music scene, it's not easy to come across new bands in the last 10+ years unless you are actively seeking them out. Radio is essentially dead (esp. for anyone under 25) and commercial radio is horrendous (ads, and same songs daily). Very limited music shows now...really only Rage still has that offering and younger people do everything through Tiktok. Most of the successful artists now have mossive Tiktok following and I know my kids have come across artists I like form yesteryear, purely through a song theire being in a Tiktok clip.

 

I try and follow the bands I like on their socials, and a lot of them mention their label mates or touring buddies, which I will then have a listen too.  I also check out suggestions on Streaming services, of which some are terrible misses for me, but also have found some great ones. A band I have followed closely, from Melbourne, who've released a few Ep's and 2 x Full length albums has just finished up because they are literally losing money as a band. The cost of touring and playing small venues and also releasing physical music has become too much for them.

 

I also have some like minded friends and we share any new music we've come across.

 

I am not young, born in 70's, and love lots of  70's and 90's music (with very select splashes of 80's), but will say that some of my favourite music has been by artists I listen to in the last 5-10 years. Some of it certainly has sounds and influences of previous eras, but most music has been influenced by what has come previously.

 

It is out there, but you have to find it now

 

I much prefer going to see local band gigs in Brisbane and paying anywhere from $35 -$100 for a gig in a smaller venue, than spending $300 on a major artists and being 70m away from the stage. I do make exceptions my my favourite artists, but not often I go to stadium tours

 

 

 

i try to keep listening to JJJ most days in the background - have to be zen to block out every 3rd song as its not my thing. JJ is also worth tuning into if not overly fresh all the time but they do great programs. 

 

interesting trend with Tiktok - it's putting artists on the map without the need for traditional forms. Gaming is similar. not that I'm into either but on JJJ hottest 100 in recent years tracks are making the list on the back and ticktoc and gamers. 

 

100% with you ref seeing a local small gig vs international acts. Shame my mates "into music" don't see it that way. I did drag a few to see Donny Benet at the Zoo (RIP) earlier this year, ley loved it! They couldn't understand  why I pasted on seeing the Killers even tho I'm a fan. 

 

there's a few gigs I'm keen on in the coming weeks - Ball Park Music and Glass Beads who are support Leon Bridges. Really hoping to see Smith Street Band as well but I keep missing them. 

 

 

 

[NoCoder]

14 hours ago, wasabijim said:

 

i try to keep listening to JJJ most days in the background - have to be zen to block out every 3rd song as its not my thing. JJ is also worth tuning into if not overly fresh all the time but they do great programs. 

 

interesting trend with Tiktok - it's putting artists on the map without the need for traditional forms. Gaming is similar. not that I'm into either but on JJJ hottest 100 in recent years tracks are making the list on the back and ticktoc and gamers. 

 

100% with you ref seeing a local small gig vs international acts. Shame my mates "into music" don't see it that way. I did drag a few to see Donny Benet at the Zoo (RIP) earlier this year, ley loved it! They couldn't understand  why I pasted on seeing the Killers even tho I'm a fan. 

 

there's a few gigs I'm keen on in the coming weeks - Ball Park Music and Glass Beads who are support Leon Bridges. Really hoping to see Smith Street Band as well but I keep missing them. 

 

 

 

Yes, If I do listen to radio, it's Triple J or Double J

 

Sad to see the Zoo close, so of my favourite gigs have been there (Mudhoney, British India, Tired Lion, Teskey Brothers etc). Looking forward to going to a gig  there again now that The Crowbar have opened back up in thatspot

 

I only have midsized gigs coming up in the new year so far - all international acts, but all reasonably priced- 

 

City and Colour with Nathaniel Rateliffe and the Nightsweats at Riverstage

 

IDLES at Riverstage (killer band and superb live act)

 

Fontaines D.C. supported by Wunderhorse at Rivestage

 

Wanted to see WAAX at The Crowbar last week, but had prior commitments.

 

Fortitude Music Hall is a great venue too.

[wasabijim]

Mudhoney?!?! how did that go? 

 

IDLES on my radar - I know, I better get a move on

 

My brother still tunes into 4ZZZ when there's coverage, a few monthly back he said they had a caller describing a dehydrated substance enhanced big trip to Market Day late 90s, haha    

[NoCoder]

20 hours ago, wasabijim said:

Mudhoney?!?! how did that go? 

 

IDLES on my radar - I know, I better get a move on

 

My brother still tunes into 4ZZZ when there's coverage, a few monthly back he said they had a caller describing a dehydrated substance enhanced big trip to Market Day late 90s, haha    

Mudhoney was fantastic. Saw them 2 days in a row. Once at the Zoo and the next day at the last Big Day out in January 2014. 

 

Not in their prime as far as release of music goes, BUT they were brilliant live. The Zoo gig was great in such a compact venue.

 

If you haven't seen IDLES yet, get your tickets!! Best live band I've seen in a long time