Windows 11 Update

[aussievintage]

1 hour ago, Dolphy said:

Moving over to Linux isn't an option to the majority of the population. They are either unaware that it exists or are not technical enough to understand it.

 

You sell people short I think.   IMO.

 

1 hour ago, Dolphy said:

I've tinkered with Ubuntu and Mint over the years. It does almost everything. 

 

  same for Windows, it does ALMOST everything as well - albeit slower     

[Dolphy]

24 minutes ago, muon* said:

My phone uses GrapheneOS, and I have no Apple devices.

Good for you!

 

You made me do a search for this OS. It only Supports Google Pixels, looks interesting though. Do your banking apps work on it?

Edited October 24, 2024 by Dolphy

[muon*]

8 minutes ago, Dolphy said:

Good for you!

 

You made me do a search for this OS. It only Supports Google Pixels, looks interesting though. Do your banking apps work on it?

I don't bank online, and I don't install apps on my phone.

[bob_m_54]

43 minutes ago, aussievintage said:

 

You sell people short I think.   IMO.

 

 

  same for Windows, it does ALMOST everything as well - albeit slower     

I agree, even if you only use Linux Mint, which is probably the easiest to transition to, it's just so much less encumbered than Windows.

 

And it does run so much easier than a windows install on the same machine. There are only two programs that I have (MediaMonkey & Legacy Family Tree) that haven't been ported to Linux so far, and they are the only reason I still use Windows at all. Of course, the problem with that is only booting up the windows lappy every now and then, usually means a big update each time I do it.

[aussievintage]

Just now, bob_m_54 said:

I agree, even if you only use Linux Mint, which is probably the easiest to transition to, it's just so much less encumbered than Windows.

 

And it does run so much easier than a windows install on the same machine. There are only two programs that I have (MediaMonkey & Legacy Family Tree) that haven't been ported to Linux so far, and they are the only reason I still use Windows at all. Of course, the problem with that is only booting up the windows lappy every now and then, usually means a big update each time I do it.

 

If they don't run under wine (try something like winebottles for super easy setup), then run them, and windows, in a dedicated virtualbox machine with updates turned off.   

[bob_m_54]

Just now, aussievintage said:

 

If they don't run under wine (try something like winebottles for super easy setup), then run them, and windows, in a dedicated virtualbox machine with updates turned off.   

I've tried both under Wine, and they don't run that well, unfortunately. And don't get me started on running virtual machines LOL. I used to do exactly that, with a shared partition that I could use to drop from Linux to Win and vice versa, while having both virtual machines running at the same time. But that was an old Toshiba laptop that died.

 

Since then I've tried to buy a new laptop that allows enabling virtualization in BIOS, and that has a decent enough sized HDD for a couple of different OSs, but sales staff are very reluctant to allow you to check BIOS settings in their products. I think mostly because they don't know enough about the technology they are selling, and are worried you'll do something nasty to their machine. When I do get the inclination to try and buy a new machine, each time, after a day of trying to explain what I want, to dumb stares from sales staff, I give up again.

 

My current Linux machine is an Acer, and they have denied access to Virtualization in their BIOS settings. I do actually have multi-booting Linux Mint, Windows 10 and Ubuntu 22 on it, but that is not really very useful, due to having to reboot into each exclusive OS.

 

My Win 11 machine is an Asus Zenbook (about 5 years old), and to be honest I haven't explored running Linux on it and the Win install as a Virtual Machine, simply because I don't want to stuff up the Win11 install on it, and not be able use the two progs I mentioned above.

[Tweaky]

Well the review embargo on the new Intel Arrow Lake CPU's has been lifted in the last few hours, and the major PC YouTubers have already got their reviews up.

Seems like the new top of the line Core Ultra 9 285k CPU is a bit of a dogs breakfast, especially at the current AUS$1099.

One of the major problems all the reviewers have had is with the latest, and massive update, Windows 11 24H2 build, to such a extent some have rolled back to the previous update of 23H2.....I don't seen the point of that TBH, as everybody building a new PC with this chip is going to be using the latest version of Windows 11.

Most of these reviewers base everything on what a GAMER wants to see, but that is of no interest to me, I need one for productivity IE: great single core performance, which thankfully it does have.....but not much better than the now cheaper predecessor the i9 14900k which is now selling for AUS$749.......but them you still have all the problems with that chip, which makes it a none starter.

 

I think there will be a lot of needed tweaking of the microcode on these new Arrow Lake chips, because as they stand, it looks like AMD is a better choice for the money being asked, and they still have their top of the line Ryzen 9 9900X3D and Ryzen 9 9950X3D CPU's to be released early 2025.

 

Hopefully Microsoft would have also got their crap together and sorted out Win 11 by then.

And I expect Intel will be dropping the price of their new chips pretty quickly given the reviews.

 

 

[muon*]

As far as I understand it the Non 3D Ryzens are better for general work, where the 3D ones are better for graphics intensive work.

 

I only have a Ryzen 5700x but it is plenty for me.

Edited October 25, 2024 by muon*

[Tweaky]

This is a very good conversation about the current and probable future of what Microsoft has planned for Windows, and it's not good, and quite frankly disturbing.

The discussion also involves moving to Linux, which they both agree that most people who want to keep control of their data will move to.

 

 

[aussievintage]

29 minutes ago, Tweaky said:

This is a very good conversation about the current and probable future of what Microsoft has planned for Windows, and it's not good, and quite frankly disturbing.

The discussion also involves moving to Linux, which they both agree that most people who want to keep control of their data will move to.

 

 

 

Good video, lots of good advice.

 

Most interesting for me is that the experience under Proton in Linux, is better than in Windows on ARM.     

 

New term - adversorial computing - yeah - I know what they mean...